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April 7, 2007 4:03:09 PM

I am current putting a computer together to build and i was wondering if i should go with Intel Pentium 4 640 Prescott 3.2GHz or AMD Athlon 64 3800+ Orleans 2.4GHz. Or if there are any better CPUs for $100 or under.(at newegg)

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April 7, 2007 4:10:31 PM

You should really try and wait for the Pentium E series. They're cheap (starting at $60), dual core and based on the Core u-arch.

BUT, if you were to go out and build a PC right now (with that budget), go for the Athlon 64.
April 7, 2007 4:13:58 PM

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I am current putting a computer together to build and i was wondering if i should go with Intel Pentium 4 640 Prescott 3.2GHz or AMD Athlon 64 3800+ Orleans 2.4GHz. Or if there are any better CPUs for $100 or under.(at newegg)

Do NOT get the preshott ... anything but the preshott.

Large AMD price cuts are due now and Intel on the 22nd.

Hold out for a dual core ... well worth it.
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April 7, 2007 4:17:08 PM

Hold on, I thought that the Prescott revision was only for the 500 series Pentium 4 processors... The 600 series should be Cedar Mill based.

If I were you I would either wait for the Pentium E, or squeeze the few extra bucks for an X2 3600+.
April 7, 2007 4:20:18 PM

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Hold on, I thought that the Prescott revision was only for the 500 series Pentium 4 processors... The 600 series should be Cedar Mill based.

If I were you I would either wait for the Pentium E, or squeeze the few extra bucks for an X2 3600+.


Totally wrong.

Only P4 6x1 are Cedar Mill cores.
P4 6x0 are Prescott cores with 2MB of L2 cache.

Also a x2 3600+ will have a lower price than P-E 2140, the slowest member. (US$69 vs US$74).
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April 7, 2007 4:49:14 PM

Go with AMD since thier duo core processors costs less. You should look at the Socket AM2 Athlon 64 X2 3600+ or faster. In general, the Core 2 Duo still has a performance advantage over the Athlon 64 series, but they cost more.

The Pentium 4 640 isn't really worth considering.
April 7, 2007 5:26:54 PM

If you want cheap go with AMD. You can get X2 3600, 3800 and 4200+ for under $100 off of newegg. The 4200+ that is under 100 is not the 65 watt chip, though that's only 5 bucks more. If you can extend your budget the 4600+ can be had for about 125.
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April 7, 2007 6:07:22 PM

AMD for $100

List of all AMD's between $75 and $100. If anything, go with an X2.
April 7, 2007 6:25:12 PM

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Hold on, I thought that the Prescott revision was only for the 500 series Pentium 4 processors... The 600 series should be Cedar Mill based.

If I were you I would either wait for the Pentium E, or squeeze the few extra bucks for an X2 3600+.


Totally wrong.

Only P4 6x1 are Cedar Mill cores.
P4 6x0 are Prescott cores with 2MB of L2 cache.

Also a x2 3600+ will have a lower price than P-E 2140, the slowest member. (US$69 vs US$74).

Woah, slow down, cowboy.

It seems you're right about the Prescott matte. There are some 600 series P4s made on 90nm...

As for the 3600+ issue, I was referring to the future and present. Squeeze the extra bucks for a 3600+ now, or wait for the Pentium E.
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April 8, 2007 12:09:02 AM

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I am current putting a computer together to build and i was wondering if i should go with Intel Pentium 4 640 Prescott 3.2GHz or AMD Athlon 64 3800+ Orleans 2.4GHz. Or if there are any better CPUs for $100 or under.(at newegg)


Athlon 64 X2 3600+ (~$70)

Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (I forgot)

Athlon 64 X2 4200+ ($99.99)

newegg btw
April 8, 2007 3:09:16 PM

Finishing what Jack said, I don't expect K10 to be cheap at launch date, even the low end Semprons or X2s.
April 8, 2007 3:22:45 PM

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Finishing what Jack said, I don't expect K10 to be cheap at launch date, even the low end Semprons or X2s.


I just can say "I don't know" as the pricing structure of Intel is aggressive enough to push down the launch prices of the new CPUs. :wink:
April 8, 2007 9:40:24 PM

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Finishing what Jack said, I don't expect K10 to be cheap at launch date, even the low end Semprons or X2s.

Most probably, AMD will charge a good extra for the higher end 2.5 or higher clocked quads if their performance is unreachable by Intel quads but lower clocked parts whose performance swings up and down that of the C2Qs can't be much more expensive than their Intel counterparts, even because the overclocking headroom is not expected to be that high.
April 9, 2007 1:44:18 AM

I would say x2 3800 65w or the x23600 65w (65nm). They will run cooler than a prescott and better multitasker and same price or cheaper.
April 9, 2007 2:30:15 AM

Jack,
Are you getting hit with the 1-star vote too? (ala DaSickNinja)
April 9, 2007 5:25:52 AM

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Finishing what Jack said, I don't expect K10 to be cheap at launch date, even the low end Semprons or X2s.


I just can say "I don't know" as the pricing structure of Intel is aggressive enough to push down the launch prices of the new CPUs. :wink:

You can only drop prices so much, before you start taking losses due to poor yields and new manufacturing costs.

K10, like all new CPUs, will be expensive during the laucnh window, as AMD look to optimise yeilds.
April 9, 2007 6:35:03 AM

Well out of the two options you mention there I'd go with the AMD dual cores.

P4 - Prescott...Cedar Mill, who cares?...you can polish a turd as much as you like, but it's still a turd.

Either that or hang out for a cheap Core 2 Duo.
April 9, 2007 8:04:06 AM

Wish AMD processors were easy to find here in Philippines... We dont seem to get price decrease because most shops only offer Intel
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