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April 8, 2007 7:35:54 PM

k so the asshole computer guy has blocked AIM during study hall, blocked meebo, blocked all that shit, blocked proxy sites and HTTP tunnel...any ways to get past this? the firewall is sonicwall that he uses
April 9, 2007 3:32:50 AM

Why dont you try doing some homework is study hall, you might learn something. Maybe you could read a book in study hall about how to crack that firewall.
May 1, 2007 2:34:54 PM

Setup your home network as a proxy server. If you need to use: Dyndns.org on your home network if you don't have a static IP. Then use your home proxy as the proxy at school... OR Setup your home PC so you can RDP into it. Chances are he has port 3389 open.


If they have IE or Firefox settings locked down use a LiveCD (Unbuntuu) or make your own... to boot the PC...


They blocked this stuff for a reason, maybe you should follow the rules and read a book???

BTW.. Back in my day we didn't have computers in study hall...
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May 1, 2007 3:24:31 PM

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k so the ******* computer guy has blocked AIM during study hall, blocked meebo, blocked all that ****, blocked proxy sites and HTTP tunnel...any ways to get past this? the firewall is sonicwall that he uses


looks like you should be studying or doing your school work and doing what you're supposed to be doing, like the computer guy.
May 1, 2007 3:27:00 PM

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If you Chances are he has port 3389 open.


Chances are... the only open ports are the those that have been explicitly opened.

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They blocked this stuff for a reason, maybe you should follow the rules and read a book???


Why even bother to give him a clue as to how to circumvent security?

I'd rather point out that even attempting to circumvent it will likely result in suspension from school. The attempt is also punishable by law.
May 1, 2007 4:22:46 PM

My employer uses a SonicWALL 2040 for antivirus enforcement, content filtering and various other security related roles and I must admit it seems to do an admirable job. You'll want the administrative password to access it... you're on your own on that one. Once you have that if it's like our SonicWALL (I believe it will be) there is an option to exclude an IP from SonicWALL's content filter. If you turned off all security functionality, the change would be immediately noticeable. If you just exclude an IP address or two, the changes are hidden deep enough within the interface that they will likely go unnoticed.

I believe "admin/password" is the default username/password combination, but I highly doubt you'll get that lucky. If you want to take a few guesses at the password, you'll need to type in the IP address of the SonicWALL in your browser. Odds are this is your default gateway listed under your TCP/IP properties.

Good luck fighting the man.
May 1, 2007 4:25:41 PM

Don't end up getting kicked out of school so you can chat with your friends online. Right now I'm sure you could care less about us telling you to study and make something of yourself but in 10 years you'll be wishing you listened.
May 18, 2007 6:51:16 PM

or, you can just do aim.com and use the aim chat express, no downloads...fi he blocked the site u can use a BYPASS site for it...google it

and, its really not that big of a deal, i feel u on it, but i never had a laptop in study hall (ide probably be doing the same thing.)

They blocked myspace for our school, within 2 or 3 days i figured a site to bypass it.... that got blocked (i told to many gits) and another site :) 

FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT the man man man
May 31, 2007 3:09:48 PM

man, i hated school. this just refreshes my memory.
May 31, 2007 3:59:59 PM

man, dont chat on AIM at school. to be honest i hope you get caught trying to get past the stuff and you get suspended from school or kicked out of the district (bet yer folks would love that). you should be smoking reefer like normal kids.
May 31, 2007 4:18:08 PM

Not that I support this, but just to help the poor guy

Go to peacefire.org and follow the steps to make your own circunventor. That way, whenever you go to school and have that class, you turn your PC on in the morning with the circunventor activated (let say www.Ilovefirewallbypass.com) and when u get to your class just type the circunventor page and you will be able to surf on any page.

I dont know about bypassing the AIM, but for MSN messenger you can go to msn.webmessenger and try (in my school, it worked :p )
May 31, 2007 4:19:33 PM

Here is how you go about it.
1.) Bribe the SA.
2.) Claim AIM has educational value and demand he open the ports back up.
3.) Set up your home router to accept VPN connections, connect to your home network and use that network free of pesky firewalls.
4.) Drop out and spend all day at home on AIM. (my favorite)
5.) get physical access to the sonic firewall and upload your own custom created firmware that you designed (because since you dont need to study, I assume you have alternative skills that will help you later on).
6.) Work and study real hard in the IT field until you are competent enough to take over the SA's job and then you can open up the network to all the kids of the next generation so they can view youtube, talk on AIM, send email, play games..... at school... you know... instead of doing what your parents pay for... LEARNING.

If you arn't learning in school because you are too busy messing with chat programs, then you are effectively in a baby-sitting institution at what, 16yr old? thats kinda sad. I would rather be in school at that age then being babysat.
May 31, 2007 4:24:03 PM

I know how he feels.

When I used to have computer class, I would finish doing every work and there was nothing to do but chill.

People wanted to chat cause most of the work took less than 1 hour to do it (1 hour at max), then we had 90 mins to do nothing but sit and stare at each other.

Hopefully some people (including me later on) brought some LAN games which brought happiness to us.

Now, games were allowed by the teacher only after the work was done and only in that class (not on any other PC in school) so I think that was pretty nice from school.
May 31, 2007 4:26:22 PM

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man, i hated school. this just refreshes my memory.



WOW you hated school.......and now look at you.......


Your a Chef 8O

I suggest that this kid finds better things to do with his spare time. Like leave the damn computer alone and go find a girl friend.
May 31, 2007 4:29:41 PM

I dont know why people hate school, I know there are reasons

For me, I hated it because of homeworks, I HATE HOMEWORKS! THEY TAKE YOUR AFTERNOON TIME WAAA!!! IS HORRIBLE!

but, talking to people and spend a good time is cool.

I dont know about you people but whenver I was sick on school days, I wish I wasnt cause morning went on sooooo slow and watching TV for hours wasnt that funny and I spent most of the time boring at home.
May 31, 2007 4:32:47 PM

What happened to the mentality of: Learn beyond the scope of today's lesson. (?)


I blame the teaches too for not providing enough worthwhile work. Stupid school system.
May 31, 2007 4:39:53 PM

Aye in A-level I got shit loads of free periods, it basically allows you to do all your homework at school and then chill out. A game I used to play at school was tactics arena online (bit like chess) but after they blocked that we just played poker, earn a bit of cash too.
May 31, 2007 4:41:19 PM

well is a long story, I will explain it to you in a brief way

My real computer class teach had to leave school because her mom was sick and she wanted to take care of her. She left school after 2 weeks of beggining school (yes amazing) .Then substitutes were coming for like 2 weeks, then school decided to put us a permanent teacher.

This substitute became our teacher for the rest of the year, and because she was new and everything, she didnt have anything of the work that our real teacher had planned to do during the year, so the substiture had to plan each days lesson in less than 48 hours. So for example first day lesson was to do a matching of 15 words with their definitions and complete 10 sentences (everything related to pcs) and when we were done, that was it.

Basically that was what we did on that class for the hole year. So I dont think it wasnt our fault. Nobody expected our real teacher to leave and we cant blame the substitute.
May 31, 2007 5:03:48 PM

I.T. was a complete joke at school; it was a GCSE in using Microsoft Office, the best part was that you actually deliberately had to make mistakes to complete the tasks then you had to print them out and write on in pencil "oops I wrote the wrong number". The teacher was a fat tosser who was a failed math's teacher. The I.T. technician was pretty sound at school tho, me and my mates used to go in after school to play quake 2 and he'd join in. Sadly the games were disabled as the headteacher's son (a complete dweeb) got uppity as they were 15 rated games or whatever and he couldn't cope with the basic gore.
May 31, 2007 5:27:38 PM

Almost samething happened in my school

I.T. wasnt really IT
Device that lets you move the pointer in the screen............... Mouse? Correct!

That was I.T., I signed up for Webdesign next year, I hope I do learn something instead of aswering noob questions (in my opinion, they are noob qstions)

There is also this kid (nephew of the responsable for the Media Center) that will always be checking the Network drives to see if anybody installed a game or something, he has no friends (seriously). It really pisses me off when he comes to you and tells you to do something, he doesnt have authority to tell u anything just because his grandma works in there doesnt mean he is a teacher.

Finally, 2 weeks before school ended, I saw the I.T. guy (responsable for fixing the network and repairing the Pcs) he was actually using the computer and I told my friend "becarefull there is the guy who is the responsable balh blah blah" you know what my friend told me? "dont worry, he saw me playing halo couple of times and he asked me to let him play"

I couldnt believe it, anyways, I cant blame him or anything, he looks like a nice person and it was end of the year, lets have a little bit of fun :) 
May 31, 2007 5:35:08 PM

Don't worry; in a few years you'll be out of school, then you'll have to pay all your own utility bills, work 8-10 hours a day (probably for very little pay), and have 3-4 weeks vacation a year (if you're lucky).

Something to look forward to eh?
May 31, 2007 6:00:06 PM

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6.) Work and study real hard in the IT field until you are competent enough to take over the SA's job and then you can open up the network to all the kids of the next generation so they can view youtube, talk on AIM, send email, play games..... at school... you know... instead of doing what your parents pay for... LEARNING.



And trying to keep the damn system going with all the damn malware and spyware that all the kids are downloading. :p 

I swear, I have met one to two kids, in each school, in all the schools around here, that I would trust enough to let have free range online. Too many think they know something about computers, but they are the ones that do the most harm.
May 31, 2007 6:27:07 PM

I agree with that. Many people that hear about the proxies (by checking the historial or asking their computer geek friends) start going into sites that unfortunately will be something about violence/games/drugs or even porn making the PC get spyware and all the adware in the net making the hole network slow.

Thats a point I agree and Im against. Fortunately and generally, most of the people that know where to get proxies and know how to usually do this to access their email/chat/ or just check pages that are blocked and dont have anything to do with spyware and are blocked just because they have words that the censorchip detects as innapropiate when they are really not.
May 31, 2007 6:36:24 PM

Slim,

Judging from your spelling and grammar there certainly was a deficiency in your education. If this is the fault of your school, teachers, or yourself is something I can not know. Try concentrating on your studies and learning while in school. When you have free time in a class try reading something additional to supplement your new found knowledge.

I was a slacker in school when it came to actually doing the work, but I made sure that I knew how to do what was being taught. Sometimes the hoops you have to jump through in school are a pain, but in the end you will look back and regret not learning certain things when you had the chance. Life speeds up and your opportunities to learn something new get swallowed up by work, family, house, and other various commitments. Cherish the point in life that you are at right now and make the most of it by learning and building the educational foundation that you will build your adult life on top of.
May 31, 2007 6:44:02 PM

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k so the ******* computer guy has blocked AIM during study hall, blocked meebo, blocked all that ****, blocked proxy sites and HTTP tunnel...any ways to get past this? the firewall is sonicwall that he uses


Based on your sentence structure and spelling, you've conquered school and should drop out and begin your career.
May 31, 2007 6:54:59 PM

Slim,

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Judging from your spelling and grammar there certainly was a deficiency in your education.


Well Im sorry, Im not american, I wasnt born here and english is NOT my first language. If you find any grammar error in my posts, sorry, instead of complaining, why dont you notify me about it so I wont make the same mistake again?

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If this is the fault of your school, teachers, or yourself is something I can not know. Try concentrating on your studies and learning while in school. When you have free time in a class try reading something additional to supplement your new found knowledge.


Actually I do, I just received recommendation for honors classes which is a step up from what I was doing before :wink:

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I was a slacker in school when it came to actually doing the work, but I made sure that I knew how to do what was being taught. Sometimes the hoops you have to jump through in school are a pain, but in the end you will look back and regret not learning certain things when you had the chance. Life speeds up and your opportunities to learn something new get swallowed up by work, family, house, and other various commitments. Cherish the point in life that you are at right now and make the most of it by learning and building the educational foundation that you will build your adult life on top of.


I agree with that and cant say anything about it. If you read my topics, Im just discussing experiences with people.
May 31, 2007 8:06:14 PM

Lol I love americans whinging about the english language. It's like if you go over to the states, people say "your english is terrific, where are you from?" And obviously I say "well, england, you know where the language originated."
Nah but they don't have good role models, george bush can't give any speech without screwing up some grammatical element or having his words collapse around him in incoherence.
Still them's the breaks, I had a scottish lass come up to me and say "have you got shot of a pen" took me like 4 gos to realise she wanted to borrow a pen.
May 31, 2007 8:15:54 PM

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Lol I love americans whinging about the english language. It's like if you go over to the states, people say "your english is terrific, where are you from?" And obviously I say "well, england, you know where the language originated."
Nah but they don't have good role models, george bush can't give any speech without screwing up some grammatical element or having his words collapse around him in incoherence.
Still them's the breaks, I had a scottish lass come up to me and say "have you got shot of a pen" took me like 4 gos to realise she wanted to borrow a pen.
The Queen's English and American English are about as close as Mexican Spanish and real Spanish anymore, which isn't very.
May 31, 2007 8:31:23 PM

I don't think that you can draw any direct correlation between the amount of "extra" effort you put in class, or at times even the amount of attention paid, and the level of education.

In HS, I slept through history (I had already learned most of what we covered on my own from far more reliable sources than HS history books), and either did the same or acted up in other classes due to boredom. I also got nearly straight As while taking just about every honors or college level course that was offered (I finished HS with around 20 College credits already). In our CS classes (Intro, QBasic, Pascal), I usually spent a lot of time on the internet (often about computer subjects), or checking email or whatever. I also managed to finish all my projects early, usually go beyond the scope of the project, AND spend some time helping (at times teaching), the kids in the lower classes how to do their work as well. This continued on to an extent into college. And despite my lack of taking it seriously or paying close attention, I had the option to graduate college with honors (long story), and have a great job that pays good money and is extremely flexible.

The point here is not to brag, but rather expose a problem in our education system. The class can only progress as fast as the slowest student, and even in honors courses, there are still students that are far above the others. As a result, I think the quality of education you receive depends mostly on your desire to learn, and not on how you conform to the model student image.

FWIW, I think that the OP needs to focus on his classes a bit more, and on chatting a bit less...
May 31, 2007 8:51:14 PM

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Slim,
Well Im sorry, Im not american, I wasnt born here and english is NOT my first language. If you find any grammar error in my posts, sorry, instead of complaining, why dont you notify me about it so I wont make the same mistake again?


It is I'm not Im.
America is a pronoun and thus, is capitalized: America
English is also capitalized.
Error should be plural.
Don't requires an apostrophe since it is composed of the words: do and not.
And I would also consider your last sentence a run on sentence. You may want to revise it into two separate sentences.

Remember, and this goes for all posters on THG:
Before you post, please complete a self review, then repeat what you wrote out loud. Once you correct the mistakes, send your post to a buddy for pier review.


Suggestion:
If you find any grammar errors in my posts, sorry. Instead of complaining, can you notify me about the mistakes to prevent further butchering of the American English language?


NOTE: I am just joking. I do not claim to be an expert, and all grammar cops should die.
Just ... for the love of god.... dont write in class the way you chat on your phone!


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What is your primary language if I might ask? Nihongo no wa desu ka.
May 31, 2007 8:56:46 PM

Bit harsh to him weren't you? It's commendable that he makes the effort to write in English rather than in his native language, besides there are regional variations in grammar in any language so in some parts of the english speaking world certain grammatical rules don't apply. And in any case grammar is the hardest part of a language to learn, especially english because its grammar system is so unlike the rest of the european languages.
May 31, 2007 9:03:09 PM

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America is a pronoun and thus, is capitalized: America
Sorry couldn't resist...

I think you mean American, not America, and it is NOT a pronoun (which wouldn't require capitalization in any case), but rather a proper noun, which DOES require capitalization.

And thus ends our English grammar lesson for the day.
May 31, 2007 9:04:04 PM

Sorry. I will correct the meaning of my post.

As for regional differences in grammar... um ... no.
As far as simple rules that I pointed out above, there is no "proper" variation of those rules. You always capitalize America regardless of your location.

Exception is 133t 5p33k. There is only 4m3r1<4 (or which ever variant of 133t)

Ah and proper noun was what I meant. Thanks for the correction. Doesn't work very well when I screw up.. and I be America Panguage two.
May 31, 2007 9:08:33 PM

Well perhaps there is no regional variation in American English but there certainly is in English, cockney compared to yorkshire, etc. Suppose it depends where he/she learned English I guess.
May 31, 2007 9:10:47 PM

lol wat homework?... there is a way round it... double loggin :p  not tht ive used it :twisted:
May 31, 2007 9:13:55 PM

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Well perhaps there is no regional variation in American English but there certainly is in English, cockney compared to yorkshire, etc. Suppose it depends where he/she learned English I guess.


Oh ya well I am glad for American English. I would hate to be in Texas asking people where I can buy a fag.


Oh bollux! I shall move there, get a flat, recruit a solicitor, and sue England into changing their ways.
May 31, 2007 9:17:54 PM

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Once you correct the mistakes, send your post to a buddy for pier review.


Is this when you have your buddy (a peer) drop your idea from a pier to see if it floats?
May 31, 2007 9:25:20 PM

I wrote Peer (and edited it say Pier for hilarity)... you insensitive clod.
May 31, 2007 9:42:34 PM

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I wrote Peer (and edited it say Pier for hilarity)... you insensitive clod.


Sure you did...

sorry I hurt your feelings you dim-witted twit. :wink:
May 31, 2007 10:35:04 PM

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I wrote Peer (and edited it say Pier for hilarity)... you insensitive clod.


Sure you did...

sorry I hurt your feelings you dim-witted twit. :wink:

I do say... it's a jolly good thing when two chaps can make up. Carry on! :lol: 
May 31, 2007 11:07:17 PM

I don't if this has been suggested already, but have you tried using miniaim?
I've seen people at my school use it when aim is block.







so much flaming.........................lol
May 31, 2007 11:08:54 PM

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It is I'm not Im.
America is a pronoun and thus, is capitalized: America
English is also capitalized.
Error should be plural.
Don't requires an apostrophe since it is composed of the words: do and not.
And I would also consider your last sentence a run on sentence. You may want to revise it into two separate sentences.


OMG! please! school is over! :roll:

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Remember, and this goes for all posters on THG:
Before you post, please complete a self review, then repeat what you wrote out loud. Once you correct the mistakes, send your post to a buddy for pier review.


Ok, yeah there are some people that write in reverse and they dont even notice it, but, please stop with the "aphostrophe after the n in don't" everybody knows that it is really useless to say that!


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Suggestion:
If you find any grammar errors in my posts, sorry. Instead of complaining, can you notify me about the mistakes to prevent further butchering of the American English language?


I already answered this, school is over :)  but thx anyways for correcting my sentence.

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NOTE: I am just joking. I do not claim to be an expert, and all grammar cops should die.
Just ... for the love of god.... dont write in class the way you chat on your phone!


Thank God you wrote this cause I was gonna..... w/e
Unfortunately, I have to say I have wrote a thousand times cuz,wanna,gimme and stuff like that and I cant really stop that :p 

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What is your primary language if I might ask?


NO YOU CANT ASK
j/k
My primary/first/native language is spanish.

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Nihongo no wa desu ka.


I have no idea what the hell is that :) 
May 31, 2007 11:15:33 PM

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Bit harsh to him weren't you? It's commendable that he makes the effort to write in English rather than in his native language, besides there are regional variations in grammar in any language so in some parts of the english speaking world certain grammatical rules don't apply. And in any case grammar is the hardest part of a language to learn, especially english because its grammar system is so unlike the rest of the european languages.


Well at least spanner_razor understood that Im not from US and that Im doing my best to learn the language :)  I really appreciate that :) 
And yes, he was really mean, now I know that he didnt write the end of it until you guys told him to write so! :evil:  w/e if he meant to be mean or good it really doesnt matter now.

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Comptia_Rep wrote:

America is a pronoun and thus, is capitalized: America


Sorry couldn't resist...

I think you mean American, not America, and it is NOT a pronoun (which wouldn't require capitalization in any case), but rather a proper noun, which DOES require capitalization.


He Got you! hahaha!

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Well perhaps there is no regional variation in American English but there certainly is in English, cockney compared to yorkshire, etc. Suppose it depends where he/she learned English I guess.


I'm learning myself in school and everywhere I go that I have to speak English. There is noway Im spending $3000 on Ingles Sin Barreras :wink:
June 1, 2007 1:30:28 PM

Ityay ouldcay ebay ayay otlay orseway eway ouldcay allyay peaksay igpay atinlay.

Or rather it could be a lot worse we could all speak pig latin. ;-)
June 1, 2007 1:58:08 PM

Nihongo wa desu ka.

I was asking if you spoke Japanese (my 2nd language.. well learning it anyway).


Watashi no nihonjin wa jai nai.
June 1, 2007 2:09:46 PM

Also wenn ich do mit Schwiizerdüütsch aafang sehn dir do alli zimlich alt uus... Usser, öpper andersch verstohts, denn mach ich mich es wenig zum deppe...:) 
June 1, 2007 2:33:32 PM

Ok you guys are killing me...

Really!!!

:lol: 
June 1, 2007 5:17:19 PM

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Also wenn ich do mit Schwiizerdüütsch aafang sehn dir do alli zimlich alt uus... Usser, öpper andersch verstohts, denn mach ich mich es wenig zum deppe...:) 


That sounds great. Could I have one of those with a beer and extra chili gravy? 8)
June 1, 2007 6:07:28 PM

ich haben ein kluftplatz.

NEIN, ich vird nicht koufen ein schlaffwaggen!!!!
June 1, 2007 6:47:02 PM

Release the babblefish hounds.
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