PCI-E Stuck on 8x

Have a problem with some new hardware, this is my 1st system using PCI-E and I'm baffled here. I recently bought an Epox 9NPA3-SLI along with a EVGA 7300gt card. All seems to be running fine until i noticed in control panel it says card is running at 8x so i checked sandra and it said it was running at 8x, so i checked all my manuals and specs. both card and mobo support 16x with only 1 card running. I flashed bios I tried diffrent drivers. Both graphix and nforce chipset drivers. I'm just looking to get my equip. performaning at the level it should. I mean its comparable to buying car with a supposed 8 cyclinder engine only to find out its only a 4 banger. Plz help appreciated in advance.

Epox 9NPA3-SLI
AMD 3800+ X2
2 Gig Pc 3200 Dual Channel Kingston

And a PCI-E Headache

Lol, Well all he is saying that you bought a car that can only go 70mph and your complaining that the speed limit is 100mph!

listen icy18 u asshole i'm getting pissed now i came 2 this forum for help not to be told i'm crying, AND THE BOTTOM LINE IS ITS MY SYSTEM I PAID FOR IT AND IT SHOULD DO WHAT THE SPECS SAY... NO? UR AN IDIOT AND IF U ARE THE KINDA PERSON THAT ROLLS OVER THAT EASY THEN UR A LAME EXCUSE OF A HUMAN BEING. NOW DONT TELL ME YOU WOULDNT BE ASKING FOR HELP IF IT WAS YOUR COMPUTER AND LASTLY FOR ALL THOSE WHO DIDNT REPLY WITH SHIT. I'M SORRY FOR FLAMING, CAPS, AND SWEARING, BUT THIS IS ABSOULTELY ABSURD. I CANT AFFORD A 8800 LIKE SOME OF U PRIX AND I WANT BEST OUTTA WHAT I HAVE. ICY18 IF YOU AINT GOT NO HELP AND U GONNA SAY I'M CRYIN( WHICH I DONT UNDERSTAND BECAUSE I PAID FOR SOMETHING AND I WANT IT 2 WORK LIKE IT SHOULD) THEN DO US A FAVOUR AND STFU... LIKE I SAID 2 OTHER GUY U WOULD BE BITCHING 2 IF IT WAS UR SYSTEM. BOTTOM LINE I CAME HERE FOR HELP NOW IF U JUST GONNA SAY QUIT BITCHING THE F**K OFF, BETTER YET U GO DROP 100 BUX, I LIVE IN CANADA SO ITS MORE EXPENSIVE HERE THAN USA, AND THEN NOT BE SATISFIED, AND ON TOP HAVE SOME LIL PRICK TELL ME QUIT WHINIHN, BUDDY UR LUCKY I CANT SEE U RIGHT NOW I'D BREAK UR NOSE, 1ST FORUM I'VE BEEN IN WHERE PPL TOLD ME DONT FUCKEN WORRY, INSTEAD OF OFFERING SUGGESTIONS, U GUYS MAKE ME SICK. IF U GOT NO HELP DONT POST. THAT SO HARD 2 UNDERSTAND? O YEA I'M IN A FORUM WHERE MOST EVERY1 HERE THINKS THEIR WAY IS ONLY WAY AND PISS ON EVERY1 ELSE.

lol then I probably shouldn't still be playing games with my Geforce MX 4000, woops =P

yes i use this cpu only for games i use my other with a radeon 9800se for movies, and why is it that i shouldnt use a 512 ddr2 7300gt to play games? my last card was the 9800se, the geforce is a huge step up for me.. or once again am i stuck in a place where every1 thinks u need 2 drop 500 bux every 3 months. so please explain to me in detail wtf is wrng with this card. because i'm only getting more frustrated here. i asked for help and i'm ebing redirected in other ways. so far no1 has heeded the subject line which was PCI-E stuck on 8x.... it WAS NOT PCI-E okay to run on 8x. i'll say 1 more time if u cant offer a valid explaination with something 2 back it up other than a personal opinion plz dont even bother responding... AND FOR THE LAST TIME I WILL SAY. I'M LOOKING FOR HELP NOT IT DOESNT MATTER OR U GOT A GARBAGE CARD.. OPINIONS ARE LIKE A$$HOLES EVERY1 HAS 1 AND I'M ASKING FOR HELP NOT 2 BE SHIT ON

Calm down, no one will want to help you that attitude

My reason for thinking you wouldn't use the geforce for games is that usually most people that have the money for a nice cpu like a dual core generally also have a fairly good graphics card to go with it. For instance, my 3 year old 6600gt has 8 pixel processors in it, an because of that I get lag on any worthwhile game with high detail on it. Then if you take a look at the 7600gt, that has 12 pixel processors and is a pretty darn good card for cheap gaming, it should work for any game out for the most part, though don't expect to add any detail enhancenents on a high resolution. Then the upcoming 8600 ultra will have 36 pixel processors, and that with it's crappy beta drivers is at about the level of teh x1950pro, which is an outstanding card if you don't consider the 8800 cards in there. So with that being said, I just didn't know that people use the 7300gt for gaming, since it only has 4 pixel processors in it, a third of the 7600gt's, most people just use it for home theater builds


Back on the topic, you could just go looking through the bios of your motherboard and see if there's any way you can change it there, or perhaps there's some software that I'm not aware of that can do that in windows. But I'm telling you, at most you'll get may an extra 4 or 5 fps in games because of the 7300gt's limit pixel processors, and I highly doubt you'd even get one, because I've had someone test that out before on a 7900gs, and he got an extra 10fps going from x8 to x16, and that card is roughly 5 times as powerful as yours :?

Is there a little card between the two 16x slots, if there is turn it around and see if it works then.

u go ahead and say i'm an idiot but bottom line is i just found out my mobo is defective, games freezing etc. put my card in my neighbors pc and bang 16x so bottom line whos the idiot? u dickheads o yea no problem... that is called assumption u all assumed u each new the best course without even looking closely... so jump 2 the end result, all u know whats best right? u dix dont even have a clue man. faulty mobo here and all i was told was ur card is 2 small.... THNX 4 the help guys... nice problems solving skills, bunch of forum bunnies here, balding losers that spend more time in forum than with actual human beings or else this woulda been a helpful discussion. i guess i'm the idiot for having a 2 day old system and scrutinizing it to make sure its good rather than settle with it.. lol u read my last sentence and u tell me whos the idiot, no repsonse no ?'s.... just ur card is garbage.. nice work boys... FAULTY MOBO found prob myself and got really angry dealing with bunch of stuck up, my rig is better than urs, dont buy that its garbage, computer losers, that wouldnt take 5 mins to look at problem, to u guys i bought shit and am an idiot. BUT IN THE END IT WAS FAULTY HARDWARE NOW 16X OR 8X SET ASIDE WOULD ANY OF YOU WANNA RUN FAULTY HARDWARE? YEA THATS RIGHT, so real idiots here are those who jump to conclusions and dont give it that extra 50% go find another hobby u insociable prix. LOL dont worry about it just keep on using a faulty mobo that can still be exchanged lol. this brings such a smile to my face(CLOWNS)

lmao i love this guy..... brilliant

its rare to have people like him... we should all applaud

not gonna joke with ppl that attacked me first when i asked for help, ORANGEGATOR, thnx man i did search google and didnt find that. but in my manual it says 2 pci-e x16 connectors.. thats what lead me 2 believe i was having problems, and i did search google for 3 1/2 hours i dont do hardware i do software. Now thnx 2 gator helping and rest of who chose to say who cares without even looking for a solution, why should i be decent, have u not ever been at ur wits end just need a lil help, and some1 walks by says dont worry bout it and u snap back? yea were all human, so u can all keep bashing me or u can all start 2 admit that u've all had ur days 2, upside no faulty mobo just shitty advertising on tigerdirect.ca led me to believe something else.. thnx again for 2-3 ppl that took the time and helped. rest o ya FRICK OFF I GOT WORK 2 DO

going off topic:

i'm sorry you feel that way, but you're expecting service from individuals that aren't getting paid to help you. It's like going to a library and asking people to help you on your term paper.
Now if the company you bought it from talked to you in this manner then I'd be more understandable.

You, because your card being limited to 8X in your motherboard has nothing to do with the mobo being defective, it is the normal limit of your motherboard. Bottom line is, you bought a PCI-Express 8X motherboard and you come complaining that it cannot run at 16X although it does not support that speed and anyway that bandwidth would change nothing in performance so it's not like you were losing any even hypothetical performance.

I don't want to kick someone when they're down (though some deserve it) and I do appreciate the thanks, I'll say this.
It took me all of 5 seconds to type "Epox 9NPA3-SLI" into google and find the answer. The link was the FIRST search result. Soooo, anyone who's trying to talk some sense or whatever into this guy, keep this in mind.

3.5h search = nothing
5sec search = answer

hey don't worry i love tacos too ok we all love tacos

awww man stop you're making me feel all cuddly inside its too gooey eww make it stop

Well, if you wanted to, you could have asked people to customize a build for you that fits within your budget (sorry to tell you this, but I actually think the 9800 is a better card, as the 9800pro is on 6600gt levels), as I do that for plenty of people

You're a good person, you just need to think a bit cooler at some times, and I know how annoying it is to spend money on something that's out dated, but there's really nothing you can do about that, at least you got a dual core cpu, which should help in multithreaded games. Perhaps getting 1gb of ram instead of two with a 7600gt would have been the smarter choice, but ohh well, live and learn (then you buy tacos )

Umm, I'm afraid to know for what reasons But seriously, is it the whole tacos thing, or just my attitude and such?

Where do you live then? Here in my part of the US it's just 1:30 in the afternoon

here in my part of the us its 10:51 AM

but aka i worked from 10PM to 6AM graveyard so there goes your answer

Znore....

Goodnight

COMPLIANT means "COMPATIBLE WITH!" The two PCI-E 8X slots will SUPPORT PCI-E 16X. They are Hardware PCI-E 16-sized. Nowhere does the MB's manual say that it RUNS at 16X. So even the manual was accurate, further reason for you not to have gone off half-cocked.

COMPLIANT means "COMPATIBLE WITH!" The two PCI-E 8X slots will SUPPORT PCI-E 16X. They are Hardware PCI-E 16-sized. Nowhere does the MB's manual say that it RUNS at 16X. So even the manual was accurate, further reason for you not to have gone off half-cocked.

ah you a little late there buddy the hulio attack wars is over

anyway tacos i work at that job just so i can purchase my new system, bought a x2 6000 and 8800gtx

i'm all good to go

I read the whole thread. I was just pointing out that what you took to mean "PCI-E X16"was in fact a statement otherwise. A point that hadn't been brought up.

Man, I wish you would have talked to me about buying the 6000, because that just dropped $200 today and also still gets demolished by the cheapest conroes, I really like the upcoming e4400, that's totally my cpu of choice right there, cheap, highly overclockable, and still outperforms the ol' 3,8ghz p4s

ehehehehhe no worries my friend no worries

i bought it right when it hit that mark I'm the one who declared newegg out of stock

Don't worry i make sure to do my research =D

no problem, I'm a pretty rational person and it takes quite a bit to piss me off enough to start flaming 8)