Updated AMD processor pricing

[qcmadness]

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_609,00.html?redir=CPT301

Some highlights:
1. The price cuts only cover the desktop processors.
2. x2 4200+ / x2 4600+ are now absent from the price list.
3. The prices of the processors are slightly higher than the previous versions.

I will update the processor roadmap as soon as possible.

 

[apt403]

Wow, $73 for a 3600+ Brisbane! Snowman-PC might see the light of day after all...

 

[halbhh]

Yes, this in interesting. The x2 6000 is now a reasonable choice, and non-overclockers that like upper mid range builds can look at the 5600 and 6000 as well priced.

 

[1Tanker]

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_609,00.html?redir=CPT301

Some highlights:
1. The price cuts only cover the desktop processors.
2. x2 4200+ / x2 4600+ are now absent from the price list.
3. The prices of the processors are slightly higher than the previous versions.

I will update the processor roadmap as soon as possible.

$31 for a Sempron 3000+. Budget machines just got cheaper. Pretty wild when the processor is about 1/2 the price of a suitable mobo.

 

[epsilon84]

Yes, this in interesting. The x2 6000 is now a reasonable choice, and non-overclockers that like upper mid range builds can look at the 5600 and 6000 as well priced.

The X2 5600+ is well priced (according to the competition), the X2 6000+ is not. After price cuts, the E6600 will be slightly cheaper, slightly faster and VASTLY cooler (the X2 6000+ runs hotter than a QX6800 FFS Link).

I honestly don't understand why people are so excited about the 6000+, maybe it's the 3GHz clockspeed... or the 140W TDP. You know the bigger the better.

It's funny because not too long ago AMD fans were saying how clockspeed didn't matter, and lambasted Intel for creating furnaces. :lol:

(Source Xbitlabs)

In order of performance:

(PI = Performance Index)
E6600 PI 1.68 / Price $224
X2 6000+ PI 1.62 / Price $241
X2 5600+ PI 1.53 / Price $188
E6420 PI 1.52 / Price $183

Spot the odd one out.

 

[epsilon84]

the X2 6000 now is the sweetspot for Amd fans looking to upgrade! Ill never turn to the darkside of Intel !

Yeah, or I could get a $65 X2 3600+ and clock it to 3GHz myself. :roll:

AMD is milking the K8 for all it's worth, I'm actually happy they have suckers like you buying all their excess inventory, otherwise they'll be further in the red. At least you're a true 'fan(boy)' and buying a semi-high margin CPU, unlike so many other so called 'fans' that are buying the cheapest AMD CPUs available and denying AMD their hard earned $$$.

On behalf of AMD, thank you. 8) :lol:

 

[ErrorCode]

I have an Athlon 64 3400 which runs at 2.2Ghz. I may consider upgrading as it is pretty cheap right now by the looks of it.

 

[Dade_0182]

Did you maybe think that us "suckers" with old, say 3500+, cpu's find it easier to just stick a X2 6000+ in there instead of building a whole new rig? I know building a new rig is fun and all sometimes but if you think practical a bit...

 

[epsilon84]

Did you maybe think that us "suckers" with old, say 3500+, cpu's find it easier to just stick a X2 6000+ in there instead of building a whole new rig? I know building a new rig is fun and all sometimes but if you think practical a bit...

Dude, read my post, don't get the X2 6000+, if you must upgrade the highest I would shoot for is an X2 5600+. It's barely 5% slower than an X2 6000+ and costs $40 less.

That, or getting a $65 OEM X2 3600+ and overclocking it to ~3GHz, which would be my preferred option since I'm an overclocker at heart. Heck, you can probably sell your 3500+ for $50 on Ebay and end up spending $15 on a significant upgrade.

But hey, that's my style, and many people prefer to only run at stock speeds...

Edit... just one more thing... you run an AM2 3500+ right???

 

[Dade_0182]

I was thinkin about the average joe again...my bad. Personally I go with the lower end as well. I got my 3500+ sitting on a nice 2.7Ghz on stock cooling...

 

[the_vorlon]

:roll:

Did you maybe think that us "suckers" with old, say 3500+, cpu's find it easier to just stick a X2 6000+ in there instead of building a whole new rig? I know building a new rig is fun and all sometimes but if you think practical a bit...

Dude, read my post, don't get the X2 6000+, if you must upgrade the highest I would shoot for is an X2 5600+. It's barely 5% slower than an X2 6000+ and costs $40 less.

That, or getting a $65 OEM X2 3600+ and overclocking it to ~3GHz, which would be my preferred option since I'm an overclocker at heart. Heck, you can probably sell your 3500+ for $50 on Ebay and end up spending $15 on a significant upgrade.

But hey, that's my style, and many people prefer to only run at stock speeds...

Edit... just one more thing... you run an AM2 3500+ right???

Or buy an E6420 and overclock it to 3.0+

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[the_vorlon]

Yes, this in interesting. The x2 6000 is now a reasonable choice, and non-overclockers that like upper mid range builds can look at the 5600 and 6000 as well priced.

The X2 5600+ is well priced (according to the competition), the X2 6000+ is not. After price cuts, the E6600 will be slightly cheaper, slightly faster and VASTLY cooler (the X2 6000+ runs hotter than a QX6800 FFS Link).

I honestly don't understand why people are so excited about the 6000+, maybe it's the 3GHz clockspeed... or the 140W TDP. You know the bigger the better.

It's funny because not too long ago AMD fans were saying how clockspeed didn't matter, and lambasted Intel for creating furnaces. :lol:

(Source Xbitlabs)

In order of performance:

(PI = Performance Index)
E6600 PI 1.68 / Price $224
X2 6000+ PI 1.62 / Price $241
X2 5600+ PI 1.53 / Price $188
E6420 PI 1.52 / Price $183

Spot the odd one out.

140 Watt TDP..?

Really...?

Does that beat the old Prescott 90 Nano 840 EE chip?

Pretty sure that was the old record holder... 130 or so.

 

[Mandrake_]

The record holder, I believe, is The Xeon "Tulsa" processor. Cooling 1.3 billion transistors can't be easy; even at 65nm. It has a TDP of 150W.

Though seeing the 6000+ use more power than the QX6800 is pretty bad.

 

[pumper]

Are there any cpus besides the 5600+ that can be clocked to 3ghz? (with same cache size)

 

[epsilon84]

Are there any cpus besides the 5600+ that can be clocked to 3ghz? (with same cache size)

Nothing is guaranteed in overclocking, but the lower end X2s also can potentially be overclocked to around 3GHz, but some may fall a bit short, say 2.8 - 2.9GHz. The Brisbane core would be a better bet for overclocking, mainly because it runs cooler.

Of course, almost all C2D CPUs can overclock to 3GHz+... you didn't state which brand when you asked the question, but I assume you meant X2.

 

[Dade_0182]

Sorry for not getting back to you sooner but the mail server is off so I'm not notified of replies...

Yeah I do run a 3500+ AM2. Gonna get me a watercooling setup in the next couple of months. First getting that well deserved CPU upgrade. I just gotta get a better mobo as well coz my current one only lets me up the FSB to 232 or something. I'm not sure though but I know it's on max at the moment. It was an emergency build at the time. Had projects and stuff to do and it was just after newyears so no one had stock of anything good.

 

[dasickninja]

the X2 6000 now is the sweetspot for Amd fans looking to upgrade! Ill never turn to the darkside of Intel !

How is it a sweet spot when you've reached the clock limits of the arch?

 

[Dahak]

Nice pricing.I'm deffinately getting a X2 6000+ and a X2 5600+.Great pricing on bothe.

Dahak

AMD X2-4400+@2.6 TOLEDO
EVGA NF4 SLI MB
2X EVGA 7950GT KO IN SLI
4X 512MB CRUCIAL BALLISTIX DDR500
WD300GIG HD/SAMSUNG 250GIG HD
ACER 22IN WIDESCREEN LCD 1600X1200
THERMALTAKE TOUGHPOWER 850WATT PSU
COOLERMASTER MINI R120
3DMARK05 13,471

 

[jflongo]

I've been waiting for the 5200+ to drop below $200, and now it has. Now the 6000+ is in the mid $200's all of a sudden, heh, maybe I'll wait a little longer still.

 

[BaldEagle]

I've been waiting for the 5200+ to drop below $200, and now it has. Now the 6000+ is in the mid $200's all of a sudden, heh, maybe I'll wait a little longer still.

Can I get a horizontal mount for the 6000+ CPU so I can put a flat plate on the heatsink and make hot tea with that 150watts while I run?

 

[AeroB1033]

the X2 6000 now is the sweetspot for Amd fans looking to upgrade! Ill never turn to the darkside of Intel !

Yeah, or I could get a $65 X2 3600+ and clock it to 3GHz myself. :roll:

AMD is milking the K8 for all it's worth, I'm actually happy they have suckers like you buying all their excess inventory, otherwise they'll be further in the red. At least you're a true 'fan(boy)' and buying a semi-high margin CPU, unlike so many other so called 'fans' that are buying the cheapest AMD CPUs available and denying AMD their hard earned $$$.

On behalf of AMD, thank you. 8) :lol:

Or maybe he just doesn't like to overclock and realizes that at this price point AMD's processors now handily defeat Intel, unless you're willing to spend $500 on an E6700? Sucker indeed.

 

[quantumsheep]

I've been waiting for the 5200+ to drop below $200, and now it has. Now the 6000+ is in the mid $200's all of a sudden, heh, maybe I'll wait a little longer still.

Can I get a horizontal mount for the 6000+ CPU so I can put a flat plate on the heatsink and make hot tea with that 150watts while I run?

I wish!

It's just getting ridiculous - i thought that everyone was all about lowering heat and power consumption these days?

Imagine a quad core x2 6000+ :lol:

 

[halbhh]

I honestly don't understand why people are so excited about the 6000+, maybe it's the 3GHz clockspeed... or the 140W TDP. You know the bigger the better.

It's funny because not too long ago AMD fans were saying how clockspeed didn't matter, and lambasted Intel for creating furnaces. :lol:

(Source Xbitlabs)

In order of performance:

(PI = Performance Index)
E6600 PI 1.68 / Price $224
X2 6000+ PI 1.62 / Price $241
X2 5600+ PI 1.53 / Price $188
E6420 PI 1.52 / Price $183

Spot the odd one out.

140 Watt TDP..?

Really...?

Does that beat the old Prescott 90 Nano 840 EE chip?

Pretty sure that was the old record holder... 130 or so.

While I'd consider the 5600 if I was building right now, I don't really need to say much about the 6000, which is now close to the price/performance curve, and some people like the top. that's their business. About the max power draw, it's notable for people who care about that sort of thing. Obviously, someone getting this chip may have already decided not to overclock (although some will -- and those people are making their own choice).

So for most of it's buyers, they'll be wanting to take advantage of QuietN'Cool, which you should read up on if you haven't already. It's simple enough -- the max power won't be hit much. When someone does hit max power a lot, that's someone using a lot of cpu cycles, and perhaps they are planning for the upgrade again later in the year.

Tempest in a teapot? yeah.

 

[halbhh]

It's funny because not too long ago AMD fans were saying how clockspeed didn't matter, and lambasted Intel for creating furnaces.

This is the hypocrisy I often refer to in many of my posts

uh oh.....

I don't like seeing you using descriptive put downs, Jack.

Re the 125Watts, by the way, did you forget that most of those 6000s will be burning that 125W maybe 2-5 minutes in a day (and the next biggest group perhaps a hour or two, for the average home movie video thief and such)?

It's interesting to calculate the electricity cost for those heavier users, during say a big 2 hour encoding chunk.

Electricity is very expensive here where I live, about 20 cent per KWh. So for 2 hours of 125W you get 5 cents of electrical cost. Of course all computers burn plenty just being on, but we're focusing on the high draw. The differential vs an 80 Watt cpu is interesting in those 2 hours: about 2 cents.

Obviously, there are other factors that will be more important for this decision. Does the person want the top bin? Do they want the best gaming computer for a certain budget? etc.

 

[epsilon84]

It's funny because not too long ago AMD fans were saying how clockspeed didn't matter, and lambasted Intel for creating furnaces.

This is the hypocrisy I often refer to in many of my posts

uh oh.....

I don't like seeing you using descriptive put downs, Jack.

Re the 125Watts, by the way, did you forget that most of those 6000s will be burning that 125W maybe 2-5 minutes in a day (and the next biggest group perhaps a hour or two, for the average home movie video thief and such)?

It's interesting to calculate the electricity cost for those heavier users, during say a big 2 hour encoding chunk.

Electricity is very expensive here where I live, about 20 cent per KWh. So for 2 hours of 125W you get 5 cents of electrical cost. Of course all computers burn plenty just being on, but we're focusing on the high draw. The differential vs an 80 Watt cpu is interesting in those 2 hours: about 2 cents.

Obviously, there are other factors that will be more important for this decision. Does the person want the top bin? Do they want the best gaming computer for a certain budget? etc.

Did it ever occur to you that there is more to excessive power consumption than just the power bill? Firstly, there is the added strain on the PSU. Then there is the extra heat in the case which has to be dissipated - either in the form of more case fans, or using faster, noisier case fans, or both.