Whoppix 2.7 looks cool, but having problems utilizing it!!

[bluntside]

Alright, just finished downloading Whoppix 2.7. Its gonna be used for "Wireless Accessing and networking with my bro".
So I burned it properly with an iso recorder and boots fine, the problem is that I would like to use it as a LIVE CD. but if I cannot I wouldnt mind Partitioning my 120gb HD for Whoppix 2.7, But I perfer using it LIVE. My main problem is that I do not know the commands of booting it into A Live Session.
boot:_
and right there its asking me for a command which i do not possesss any knowledge of.
Do you guys out there know any of these command lines??
ANY hepl would be greatly appreciated. :twisted:

 

[bmouring]

As it is based on Knoppix, it is going to be a LiveCD. The boot: prompt just allows you to define some specific boot paramtered, sometimes amusingly called "cheat codes". Here is a quick overview of the codes, some of interest would be the skipping parts of hardware detection if your system hangs on booting and, if you have sufficient memory (like 1.5+ gigs) using the toram to make the OS run from memory and in the process making the thing fly.

 

[linux_0]

bmouring is right on :-D


Just hit enter


PS Unless you are doing penetration testing you're probably better off using:

http://www.kernel.org/pub/dist/knoppix/KNOPPIX_V5.0.1CD-2006-06-01-EN.iso

http://www.kernel.org/pub/dist/knoppix/knoppix-dvd/KNOPPIX_V5.0.1DVD-2006-06-01-EN.iso

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/damnsmall/current/dsl-3.0.1.iso

or feather linux

 

[bluntside]

Cuz I saw a viedeo which had very nice "wireless" tools such as kismet and otheres. Im just trying to boot it off a live cd, but when it goes to the screen where lthe pinguin is at, it states that its searching cd-rom
for example /hda1
/hda12
and other stuff like that. If I cant run live, I was wondering if there is any wasy of installing Whoppix 2.7 on my HD??
if so, I will need to partition it, And I have never partitioned a hard drive before. Any help or tips would be greatly appreciated.

 

[linux_0]

Cuz I saw a viedeo which had very nice "wireless" tools such as kismet and otheres. Im just trying to boot it off a live cd, but when it goes to the screen where lthe pinguin is at, it states that its searching cd-rom
for example /hda1
/hda12
and other stuff like that. If I cant run live, I was wondering if there is any wasy of installing Whoppix 2.7 on my HD??
if so, I will need to partition it, And I have never partitioned a hard drive before. Any help or tips would be greatly appreciated.

If you can't boot from it as a live CD you cannot install it either.

Give Knoppix a try it comes with kismet and other wireless tools.

Make sure you check the md5 and sha1 sums before you burn the disk to make sure it was not corrupted in transit.

For partitioning check out:

http://gparted.sourceforge.net/screenshots.php

parted comes with virtually all Linux distributions.

There is

parted # command line version

GParted # Gnome version

QTParted # KDE version

and there are also parted live CDs available.

They all work pretty much the same way.

 

[bluntside]

GOT WHOPPIX running from my ram!! its great, the only problem is that it deosnt recognize my linksysWireless pci adapter w/ SRX model#WMP54GX
I was looking forward in utilizing all the tools whoppix had to offer
Any idea how i can get drivers for this wireless card??

 

[bmouring]

The unfortunate thing with wireless devices is that manufacturers often will change the chipsets inside of the device from one revision to the next without changing the model number (just appending a version number on a small sticker somewhere on the device).

It looks like there are at least 2 possible chipsets, maybe more:
Broadcom BCM4306 – v2
Broadcom BCM4306 – v3
Ralink RT2500 – v4

Try to find the sticker on the device that has the veriosn info, it should be near the model number e.g. WMP54GX v#. If you cannot, then try to get the information from the lspci command, just sift through the copious ammounts of output looking for something about wireless.

If it's a Broadcom, you will need to use the ndiswrapper, a kinda tricky thing to setup. If it's the Ralink, you're in luck as that one's a good bit easier to setup (I have a RT2500-based USB dongle that I got working in about 5 minutes).

 

[bluntside]

and how exactly do I use the commands??


Model Number WMP54GX ver 1.1
not shure if this is it but need more help in identifying my wireless.

 

[bmouring]

Yes indeed, that version number doesn't really let us know since it isn't in the list that I found.

So, how do you use lspci? It's pretty easy:
[code:1:05a6f713e7]lspci [enter][/code:1:05a6f713e7]

if it gives you no output (i.e. just drops back to the prompt without any output) then try

[code:1:05a6f713e7]sudo lspci[enter][/code:1:05a6f713e7]

If it gives you a "command not found", try this
[code:1:05a6f713e7]sudo find / -mount -iname lspci[enter]

//Wait for a while, it's searching for the command
//if there's no output, double-check the command above,
//if it looks good then something's arwy and you are missing lspci

//If it is found, you may safely [ctrl + c] to stop the search
//Let's assume it was found in /usr/sbin/, you'd enter

sudo /usr/sbin/lspci[enter][/code:1:05a6f713e7]

What should the output look like? Something in the format like this:
[code:1:05a6f713e7]the-uberbeast ~ # sudo /usr/sbin/lspci
00:00.0 Memory controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 Memory Controller (rev a3)
00:01.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 ISA Bridge (rev a3)
00:01.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation CK804 SMBus (rev a2)
00:02.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 USB Controller (rev a2)
00:02.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 USB Controller (rev a3)
00:06.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation CK804 IDE (rev a2)
00:07.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation CK804 Serial ATA Controller (rev a3)
00:08.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation CK804 Serial ATA Controller (rev a3)
00:09.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 PCI Bridge (rev a2)
00:0a.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 Ethernet Controller (rev a3)
00:0e.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 PCIE Bridge (rev a3)
00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration
00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map
00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller
00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control
00:19.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration
00:19.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map
00:19.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller
00:19.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control
01:05.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB43AB22/A IEEE-1394a-2000 Controller (PHY/Link)
02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0092 (rev a1)
08:0a.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] AMD-8131 PCI-X Bridge (rev 12)
08:0a.1 PIC: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] AMD-8131 PCI-X IOAPIC (rev 01)
08:0b.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] AMD-8131 PCI-X Bridge (rev 12)
08:0b.1 PIC: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] AMD-8131 PCI-X IOAPIC (rev 01)
09:04.0 RAID bus controller: 3ware Inc 9xxx-series SATA-RAID
0a:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 04)
0a:04.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy MIDI/Game port (rev 04)0a:04.2 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Creative Labs SB Audigy FireWire Port (rev 04)
80:00.0 Memory controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 Memory Controller (rev a3)
80:01.0 Memory controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 Memory Controller (rev a3)
80:0a.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 Ethernet Controller (rev a3)
80:0e.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 PCIE Bridge (rev a3)
the-uberbeast ~ #[/code:1:05a6f713e7]

Note the listings for things like 3Ware stuff, Creative Labs stuff, and Nvidia stuff, those are the cards in my machine.

If it's a USB device, you should do the above but replace "lspci" with "lsusb"

 

[bluntside]

:? Alright [bmouring]
so i types lspci and [enter] and it worked but I still do not understand what it is than I'm trying to find or activat. It comes up with a list but most of my devices show up as unknown.??
It cannot detect by wireless pci adapter, nor it cannot even detec my sound , graphics, thumb drive, printer etc.
What the he77 is going on>> It seems that all hope is lost for me.
____________________________________________
DFI LP SLI-DR- EXPERT
AMd +3700
X-fi Xtreme music
2x 512mb Kingston HyperX
Evga 7900gt
WD 120gb SE Eide
PLextor dvd-+Ram
________________________________________________
and of course my wireless pci adapter. Is there anything else I should do, to try and enable my devices with Whoppix??
Cuz I', trying everything I can but it just seems hopeless.
But there must be a way, If I could get some more dept on feedback, I would greatly appreciate it

 

[bmouring]

Don't fret, just post the output here and we'll take a look at it. It also may be worthwhile to look at other "security-minded" livecd's, especially since Whoppix 2.7 is fairly old.

Here is a list of Knoppix-based security-minded distros to try, and here is a list of the cream of the crop, which you can see #1 is the product of the merger between Whax (formerly Whoppix) and Auditor, another great security-based distro.

This being said, have fun seeing the invisible (watching wireless traffic) but don't get yourself into trouble. Don't do anything illegal and try to respect others' privacy.

 

[bluntside]

well here is the thing, I dont know how to post the shell contents. I dont know how to print from whoppix!! I have no idea how the text and put it into my usb!!
Sorry if I am making this all hard. Can one pleze explain how to do??

 

[bluntside]

how do I post the oputput if I can copy the outpust to my ubs then transfer it on XP, the post it??

 

[bmouring]

Ok, give this a go:

First step: plug in USB flash drive. If we are lucky, then the OS will just automatically load it up and you will see it appread on the desktop. If so, skip down to the part starting with "SO, your USB drive showed up without issue"

The trick here is to make a place for the USB drive to mount to and then mount it, something that is usually taken care of for us. I'd suggest for the purposes of this situation, just make a separate mountpoint, "sudo mkdir /usb". Now that we have a place for it, we have to figure out how Linux "sees" the drive, for that we look at the kenel messages. Unplug the USB drive and plug it back in then ssue the command "dmesg", look for a line somewhat like
[code:1:70623d004a]usb 1-6.1: new full speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4
scsi5 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
usb-storage: device found at 4
usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning
Vendor: Flash Model: Drive OT_USB20 Rev: 1.89
Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02
sdd: Unit Not Ready, sense:
: Current: sense key=0x6
ASC=0x28 ASCQ=0x0
SCSI device sdd: 128000 512-byte hdwr sectors (66 MB)
sdd: Write Protect is off
sdd: Mode Sense: 03 00 00 00
sdd: assuming drive cache: write through
SCSI device sdd: 128000 512-byte hdwr sectors (66 MB)
sdd: Write Protect is off
sdd: Mode Sense: 03 00 00 00
sdd: assuming drive cache: write through
sdd: sdd1
Attached scsi removable disk sdd at scsi5, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
Attached scsi generic sg3 at scsi5, channel 0, id 0, lun 0, type 0
usb-storage: device scan complete[/code:1:70623d004a]

What we are looking for here is the part where the device is referred to as "sdd". You can (and probably will) be different, but will be something like sd@, with @ being a charater a or b or c or ... Note that the sdd1 refers to the first partition on the device, we'll use this later. This is all the information we need to make it happen, namely mounting the device with the command "mount /dev/sd@1 /usb", where sd@1 matches the device found earlier. Here is a sample run
[code:1:70623d004a]the-uberbeast ~ $ sudo mkdir /usb
brad@the-uberbeast ~ $ dmesg
...snip...
SCSI device sdd: 128000 512-byte hdwr sectors (66 MB)
sdd: Write Protect is off
sdd: Mode Sense: 03 00 00 00
sdd: assuming drive cache: write through
sdd: sdd1
Attached scsi removable disk sdd at scsi5, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
Attached scsi generic sg3 at scsi5, channel 0, id 0, lun 0, type 0
usb-storage: device scan complete
brad@the-uberbeast ~ $ sudo mount /dev/sdd1 /usb/[/code:1:70623d004a]

You now have access to the USB device at /usb. Continue with the instructions below.

SO, your USB drive showed up without issue..
Now, simply run that command again, but let's spice it up a little, i.e. we're going to take what would normally be written to the screen and instead put it into a text file. So, try this
[code:1:70623d004a]lspci>output.txt[/code:1:70623d004a] This will capture the output to a text file. Now ll we need to do is put on the USB drive. You can either do this in the GUI or via the command line. It should be residing in the directory you ran the lspci command from (i.e. /home/SOMEUSER or /root). If you need to locate where the USB drive is mounted, issue "df" from the command line to show all of the various mounted filesystems.

 

[bluntside]

wll here's the thing, Im using a cd to boot up into whoppix, and when it gives me the prompt, I type "knoppix toram" and it loads up my Linux, so I have just a regular ram of 512, are there any other methods of putting data from the shell to my ram?? Or will I just have to try and do what you told me to do

 

[bluntside]

if possible how could i transfer the text via GUI,if I dont even see a removable drive icon??
How do make shure that whoppix is reading my flash drive??

 

[bmouring]

To field your questions (in order)

You could put the results into RAM but it is likely that the memory is allowed to expire on a soft reboot, even if it is not Windows would not know where to find it in the memory. It's technically possible in the same sense that it is possible to perfectly re-create a car with raw materials.

If, after plugging in the USB flash drive, an icon for it doesn't automatically appear on the desktop, it is going to require some terminal work even if you wanted to use the GUI. Just carefully re-read my previous instructions (print them out if needed)

 

[bluntside]

0000:00:00.0 Memory controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 005e (rev a3)
0000:00:01.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0050 (rev a3)
0000:00:01.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0052 (rev a2)
0000:00:02.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 005a (rev a2)
0000:00:02.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 005b (rev a3)
0000:00:06.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0053 (rev a2)
0000:00:07.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0054 (rev a3)
0000:00:08.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0055 (rev a3)
0000:00:09.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 005c (rev a2)
0000:00:0a.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0057 (rev a3)
0000:00:0b.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 005d (rev a3)
0000:00:0c.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 005d (rev a3)
0000:00:0d.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 005d (rev a3)
0000:00:0e.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 005d (rev a3)
0000:00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 NorthBridge
0000:00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 NorthBridge
0000:00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 NorthBridge
0000:00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 NorthBridge
0000:01:06.0 Ethernet controller: Unknown device 17cb:0001 (rev 03)
0000:01:08.0 RAID bus controller: Silicon Image, Inc. (formerly CMD Technology Inc) SiI 3114 [SATALink/SATARaid] Serial ATA Controller (rev 02)
0000:01:09.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): VIA Technologies, Inc. IEEE 1394 Host Controller (rev 80)
0000:01:0a.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. Yukon Gigabit Ethernet 10/100/1000Base-T Adapter (rev 13)
0000:01:0b.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs: Unknown device 0005
0000:05:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0291 (rev a1)






Hahahah, I finally got it!!
I appreciate your patience bmouring, it took me a while to get it but I got it in the end. So what does this list mean??
It seems that I am missing lots of drivers.
Any clue to what this might mean??[/img]

 

[linux_0]

You have an nForce motherboard :-D :-D

SiI 3114 SATA / RAID controller

VIA Firewire

Marvell Yukon GigE :-D

Creative Labs sound card

nVidia VGA :-D :-D

I don't see your wireless on here although this might be it:

0000:01:06.0 Ethernet controller: Unknown device 17cb:0001 (rev 03)

I'll lookup the PCI ID and let you know

 

[bluntside]

The sound card is an X-Fi extreme music
Can you tell me what exactly are you looking for with my wireless??

 

[bmouring]

Yikes, just looked into it further with the new PCI ID info, looks like you got a version that uses the Airgo Pre-N Wireless chipset. The only way to support this chipset on Linux currently is to use ndiswrapper, a somewhat tricky framework used to load a Windows driver into Linux.

If you want to move further along this path, it's probably advisable to install to the disk, since it's going to require some work to get things up and running, that way the progress is saved. But if I may ask, why are you not using the well-supported ethernet port? Just too inconvenient to run cable?

 

[bluntside]

I dont really understand you question as to why I'm not using my ethernet port?? Like I said Im using wireless pci adapter

 

[bluntside]

If you caould just walk me through the whoppix 2.7 installation to my HD and we can work it from there that would be very appreciated

 

[bmouring]

I just re-read your intent for the machine, and I can understand why there may be a need to have the wireless running. This also illustrated to me that I don't have a clear idea of what exactly you have planned here. What is the network topology you have now and what it your goal?

Once that's settled, I'd be more than willing to help you out. Please note, however, I strongly suggest getting a newer distro that is more suitable to hard disk installation. Whoppix is old and it is meant as a livecd distro. It can be installed to disk, but there are much more suitable distros for that. Also, all of the functionality that you want out of Whoppix is possible with any distro. It's just a matter of getting the card to work and then installing Kismet (if the card were supported).

One final note (not to crush dreams or anything), even if it is possible to get the card running with ndiswrapper, you will be unable to set the chipset into "monitor" mode (necessary for wireless packet sniffing) or "master" mode (necessary for accepting connections, i.e. acting as an access point). Don't like that? Contact LinkSys and Airgo to let them know you would either like Linux support for the card or at least let developers have access to the chipset specs and let them make a driver.

 

[bluntside]

shoot, thats was I was shooting for, but it appears that my dreams of using linux are crushed....
However, Ubuntu 6.06 seems to have wireless features as well. Wonder if that will do me any good??
If I wanted to use something like that, what type of wireless devices are supported throught linux, desktop wise??