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First Time Overclocking = E6300+P5B Deluxe = Critique/Advice

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April 9, 2007 11:32:11 PM

Well... This is the first time I've overclocked my computer and I was wondering if you guys can give me some advice or steer me into the right direction. I'm starting out slow but gradually going up. Right now I'm running a stock fan on my CPU so until I get a new fan I'll probably leave it where it is.

This is what I'm running: Core 2 Duo E6300, Asus P5B Deluxe, Gigabyte 7950GT, 2GB Corsair XMS 2 TWIN2X2048-6400C4, and a 700w Power Supply.








Idle:

16:57:00: Processor 1 : DIGITAL TMP[ 59°C ]
16:57:02: Processor 1 : DIGITAL TMP[ 58°C ]
16:57:09: Processor 0 : DIGITAL TMP[ 56°C ]
16:57:09: Processor 1 : DIGITAL TMP[ 59°C ]
16:57:11: Processor 0 : DIGITAL TMP[ 57°C ]
16:57:11: Processor 1 : DIGITAL TMP[ 58°C ]
16:57:13: Processor 0 : DIGITAL TMP[ 56°C ]
16:57:13: Processor 1 : DIGITAL TMP[ 59°C ]
16:57:16: Processor 0 : DIGITAL TMP[ 57°C ]
16:57:16: Processor 1 : DIGITAL TMP[ 58°C ]
16:57:18: Processor 0 : DIGITAL TMP[ 56°C ]
16:57:18: Processor 1 : DIGITAL TMP[ 59°C ]
16:57:20: Processor 0 : DIGITAL TMP[ 57°C ]
16:57:20: Processor 1 : DIGITAL TMP[ 58°C ]
16:57:26: Processor 0 : DIGITAL TMP[ 56°C ]
16:57:26: Processor 1 : DIGITAL TMP[ 59°C ]
16:57:29: Processor 0 : DIGITAL TMP[ 57°C ]
16:57:31: Processor 0 : DIGITAL TMP[ 56°C ]

Workload 100%:

16:59:37: Processor 1 : DIGITAL TMP[ 70°C ]
16:59:42: Processor 0 : DIGITAL TMP[ 68°C ]
16:59:42: Processor 1 : DIGITAL TMP[ 71°C ]
16:59:48: Processor 0 : DIGITAL TMP[ 69°C ]
16:59:48: Processor 1 : DIGITAL TMP[ 70°C ]
16:59:53: Processor 1 : DIGITAL TMP[ 72°C ]
16:59:59: Processor 0 : DIGITAL TMP[ 70°C ]
17:00:11: Processor 0 : DIGITAL TMP[ 71°C ]
17:00:11: Processor 1 : DIGITAL TMP[ 74°C ]
17:00:16: Processor 0 : DIGITAL TMP[ 72°C ]
17:00:16: Processor 1 : DIGITAL TMP[ 75°C ]
17:00:22: Processor 0 : DIGITAL TMP[ 71°C ]
17:00:28: Processor 0 : DIGITAL TMP[ 72°C ]
17:00:33: Processor 0 : DIGITAL TMP[ 74°C ]
17:00:33: Processor 1 : DIGITAL TMP[ 76°C ]
17:00:49: Processor 0 : DIGITAL TMP[ 75°C ]
17:01:05: Processor 1 : DIGITAL TMP[ 77°C ]
17:01:10: Processor 0 : DIGITAL TMP[ 76°C ]

Maybe to hot? Probably looking at getting a ZALMAN CNPS9500 AT Real soon.

Any advice would be great.

Thanks!
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April 9, 2007 11:38:25 PM

What are your idle & load temps?
April 9, 2007 11:43:31 PM

Sorry, You'll have to excuse my ignorance. I'm a complete noob when it comes to overclocking and all that stuff.

Will I be able to find that info in hardware monitor or do I need to use a program like TAT?
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April 9, 2007 11:49:13 PM

You can use any of the following free programs: Asus AIsuite (which you should already have), Intel TAT, CoreTemp, or SpeedFan.

You will notice a difference in temperature between the programs, and there is much debate on who is most accurate.

I personally like Intel TAT because it has a logging feature and you can instantly stress the CPU to 100% load on both cores at the push of a button.

To truly stress the system and check for stability, you can run the prime95 torture test (dual instances) for a number of hours. But for simple idle and load temps, TAT should work for you.
April 10, 2007 12:10:49 AM

Hopefully this is what you're looking for:

Idle

16:57:00: Processor 1 : DIGITAL TMP[ 59°C ]
16:57:02: Processor 1 : DIGITAL TMP[ 58°C ]
16:57:09: Processor 0 : DIGITAL TMP[ 56°C ]
16:57:09: Processor 1 : DIGITAL TMP[ 59°C ]
16:57:11: Processor 0 : DIGITAL TMP[ 57°C ]
16:57:11: Processor 1 : DIGITAL TMP[ 58°C ]
16:57:13: Processor 0 : DIGITAL TMP[ 56°C ]
16:57:13: Processor 1 : DIGITAL TMP[ 59°C ]
16:57:16: Processor 0 : DIGITAL TMP[ 57°C ]
16:57:16: Processor 1 : DIGITAL TMP[ 58°C ]
16:57:18: Processor 0 : DIGITAL TMP[ 56°C ]
16:57:18: Processor 1 : DIGITAL TMP[ 59°C ]
16:57:20: Processor 0 : DIGITAL TMP[ 57°C ]
16:57:20: Processor 1 : DIGITAL TMP[ 58°C ]
16:57:26: Processor 0 : DIGITAL TMP[ 56°C ]
16:57:26: Processor 1 : DIGITAL TMP[ 59°C ]
16:57:29: Processor 0 : DIGITAL TMP[ 57°C ]
16:57:31: Processor 0 : DIGITAL TMP[ 56°C ]

Workload 100%

16:59:37: Processor 1 : DIGITAL TMP[ 70°C ]
16:59:42: Processor 0 : DIGITAL TMP[ 68°C ]
16:59:42: Processor 1 : DIGITAL TMP[ 71°C ]
16:59:48: Processor 0 : DIGITAL TMP[ 69°C ]
16:59:48: Processor 1 : DIGITAL TMP[ 70°C ]
16:59:53: Processor 1 : DIGITAL TMP[ 72°C ]
16:59:59: Processor 0 : DIGITAL TMP[ 70°C ]
17:00:11: Processor 0 : DIGITAL TMP[ 71°C ]
17:00:11: Processor 1 : DIGITAL TMP[ 74°C ]
17:00:16: Processor 0 : DIGITAL TMP[ 72°C ]
17:00:16: Processor 1 : DIGITAL TMP[ 75°C ]
17:00:22: Processor 0 : DIGITAL TMP[ 71°C ]
17:00:28: Processor 0 : DIGITAL TMP[ 72°C ]
17:00:33: Processor 0 : DIGITAL TMP[ 74°C ]
17:00:33: Processor 1 : DIGITAL TMP[ 76°C ]
17:00:49: Processor 0 : DIGITAL TMP[ 75°C ]
17:01:05: Processor 1 : DIGITAL TMP[ 77°C ]
17:01:10: Processor 0 : DIGITAL TMP[ 76°C ]

Maybe getting to hot? Looking at getting a ZALMAN CNPS9500 AT Real soon.

I also inserted some pictures in my first post.
April 10, 2007 1:17:07 AM

Are there any good Zalmans out there? It seems like there extremely highly rated on newegg. I don't mind spending up to $70 on good cooling and I want something that will mount really well.
April 18, 2007 2:27:30 AM

I have the same setup as you do (with OCZ Platinum RAM, and a 7800GT). I ditched the stock HSF and put an Arctic Cooling Freezer Pro 7 on there. I will be swapping out the stock thermal paste later this week with some OCZ thermal paste. I'll start bumping the FSB up later this week and post my results and settings I used.
April 18, 2007 2:48:36 AM

Drop your vCore to 1.3625 and jump your fsb up to 400 and drop your pci freq to 100 disable evrything but execute disable bit under the cpu menu. you should be able to run 2.8 even with the stock cooler i think.

which bios r u using?
April 18, 2007 7:13:33 AM

WOW - that's all I can say!!!

This was my 1st overclocking attempt and I am amazed at not only the guide that was recommended, but the quality of the ASUS P5B-Deulxe Board itself!!

Here are my system specs:
ASUS P5B-Deluxe
E6300
Arctic Cooling Freezer Pro 7
2x1024 OCZ Platinum EL Rev2 DDR2-800
7800GT

These are the settings I changed/used:
-Disabled AI Tuning
-Disabled Spread Spectrum
-Disabled Q-Fan
-Disabled CPUID Limit
-Disabled C1E
-Disabled Intel SpeedStep

-PCI-E frequency @100MHz
-PCI frequency @33.3MHz
-DRAM Timings: 4-4-4-15
-vDIMM: 2.15v
-NB vCore: 1.55v
-SB vCore: 1.40v
-vFSB: 1.40v
-vCore: 1.3625v
-CPU Multiplier: 7
-CPU Frequency: 400MHz (started at 333 and worked up)

I'm running SuperPI out to 32M and after 10minutes so far, CPU Temp has not gone above 48*C!!!!

I'm running at 2.8GHz and the boost in speed gave my Vista Windows Index score for the CPU a jump from 5.0 to 5.6 (yes, I'm a complete geek like that!)

I'm just getting started!! My goal is 3.2GHz - I'll leave Prime95 running overnight on the torture test and tomorrow night start my climb to 3.2GHz
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April 18, 2007 11:00:49 AM

Here's a tip, download the SuperPi "Mod". It gives you results to the 1/1000th second. That will let you know where you're at between 20.501s or 21.499s on your current 21s 1M benchmark, as well as the other benchmarks. There could be up to 1s error due to rounding :) 
April 18, 2007 11:28:15 AM

Just another tip, use http://www.wprime.net/wPrime_gui143.zip to benchmark, it's multithreaded, SuperPi isn't. There is also a huge database of overclocks, tested with this tool, you can compare your results to others, with similar hardware setup.
April 18, 2007 5:10:44 PM

super pi 32m really doesnt stress your cpu a lot. I would download prime95. Copy it to two different folders. Open both. Go to advanced and affinity and set one to core 0 and then set the other instance to core 1. Now do stress testing and choose the first option. It is EXTREMELY cpu intensive. @ 458fsb I had to put my vcore in the bios to 1.425 for it to run prime stable 24+ hours. When you max out both of those cores you will see a big drop in vcore b/c of vdroop. Running the prime setup i told you about its only showing 1.336v in xp. I had the system running at basically stock voltage at 3.2ghz and it seemed to be great but it put up an error in 18mins on prime. In other words it might perform fine in the OS but in a game or big program it would crash on you. Run it like i said and post some screenshots.
April 18, 2007 8:12:02 PM

That mobo should handle well up towards 480+ MHz...
April 18, 2007 8:57:35 PM

cmon man its not that bad , sure there are better but at least its in the top 5 AFAIK.And it looks great , cant deny that :) 
April 18, 2007 9:16:17 PM

Well... My Zalman 9700 is coming in tomorrow.

My goal is to run it at 3.0Ghz
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April 18, 2007 9:23:09 PM

Your current temps are way too hot. That is unsafe.
April 18, 2007 10:02:57 PM

The other thing I need to check on my setup is what the fan setting is at. I'd like to lock it at 100% and see where my temps are at. I've heard the Freezer Pro7 on full bore inside my case and it's not that bad.

I'll be sure to run Orthos and 2 instances of Prime95 tonight for a few hours. I don't expect load temps to reach any higher than mid-50's. I also get some better thermal paste in soon and will try that out (vs pre-applied paste that came on the cooler).

Once I reach my max FSB, I'll start to tighten up the timings on the RAM to see where that balances out.
April 19, 2007 2:56:14 AM

my zalman 9500 has me at 3.21 and i idle in lower 40s load at under 60
April 19, 2007 4:54:37 AM

FSB is up to 450!!! 3150MHz running at 43*C @idle, ORTHOS has been running for about 10minutes now without any errors and the core is running a steady 59*C

Had to relax RAM timings in order to boot into Vista once I went past 425 FSB. I now have them set to 5-5-5-15. Tried upping vCore with timings still at 4-4-4-15 with FSB at 450, but it still wouldn't boot into Vista.

Gonna leave this run for a bit and come back in an hour or so - my goal of 3.2GHz is within reach!!

Wow, as I typed this, Core temp dropped to 56*c

And Orthos is for sure the best thing to test these C2D's - both cores ramp to 100% as soon as I clicked 'Start'.
April 19, 2007 5:38:35 AM

well most of those programs like prime95 don't take precedence over other stuff aka they are low priority.
April 19, 2007 5:43:44 AM

This is the reason to use Orthos instead. It's simple, single interface to dual instances of Prime95. It can be set to 1-10 priority, although I didn't run it at more than 9.
April 19, 2007 7:05:05 AM

Expensive ,yes it is,compared to everything else in fact , but i`m sure you pay the looks of it as well.I would like the Ultra 120+ myself too,but for my 6300 if it OCs to 3.2 or 3.5 doesnt bother me much and i like how my case looks with the 9700.And OCing that high depend on other things like MB,CPU,RAM etc as you mighty guru know :) 
P.S. anand has a lot of HS reviews lately ( THG seems to have other priorities :(  )
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