Samsung 226BW, only choice in 22"

I bought the 226BW from newegg about a month ago and received an S panel. It has some backlight bleed but isn't really that noticeable. I think that's the only con. From what I've read, subjective reviews of the A panel say that it's worse than the S panel. It may just be bitter reviewers who expected $800 LCD quality from a 22" panel. I imagine that they're roughly the same.

Another thing of note is that both panels should be calibrated before judgment is passed. Some surmise that the S panel has better calibration out of the box than the A panel. This may represent some of the complaints about the A panel.

I'd say take the gamble. The screen is beautiful imo. Going from a 19" LCD to a 22" LCD makes a world of difference, especially if your game natively supports widescreen.

I aggree that lots of manufacturers use this method and there is nothing wrong with it. The problem is there are significant differences between the products under the label 226bw and this is not acceptable. The firm has to check the quality of the products no matter what factory it is made in. Moreover the reviewers got the S panels.

here are 2 pictures posted on some other forum:

The S panel:

http://img412.imageshack.us/my.php [...] 798wz0.jpg


The A panel:

http://img170.imageshack.us/my.php [...] 797kt3.jpg


Yes S panel is not a great performer in terms of backlight bleeding but it is much better compared to the A panel. Especially the bleeding on the edges are annoying. I wonder if the reviewers give 226bw same points if the sample was an A panel...

I am about to buy the samsung, and I have seen both the s models and the a models by checking out best buy and circuit city, and the people at newegg are seriously overdoing it on the issue, so some people got a bad a panel, big deal, the majority of the a panel users didn't, it's like a 4:200 chance you'll get a bad panel by how the newegg reviews are going 8)

Sceprte just released a 1080p 2ms 22", but I don't trust sceptre's 22"(s) because their previous one worked like a charm for the first 2 months, then would die, which makes it a complete waste of money. Viewsonic has a nice 22" 5ms one that looks better (exterior) than the samsung imo, but it has lower delay time, which is something I don't want to downgrade to myself, I'm in the same predicament as you are. Though I think I'm just going to order it from newegg today and get it done with

Well guys I bought 2 samsung 206BW's the 20" model from Circuit city Monday after the Superbowl I did not hear about the A/S panel stuff until last week. I looked and found out I had 2 A panels. BUT I can't complain cause I got them at $239 each. Seems someone in corporate entered the price wrong. Mine worked fine out of the box with no overbleed. Not a 22" which are georgeous but my next ones will be 24"

FYI - I did some research into these new widescreen monitors and came up with this

The 19" WS are basically the old 17" stretched from 1024x768 to 1440x800
The 20" WS are basically the old 19" stretched from 1280x1024 to 1680x1050 fine pixel
The 22" WS are basically the old 20" stretched from 1600x1200 to 1680x1050/medium pixels
The 24" WS are basically the old 21" stretched from 1600x1200 to 1920 x1200


20" great for viewing photos 22" better if text are involved same as the 4:3 panels.. I use my 20" for financials charts so they do the job. Next logical step is 24" or 27" for me.

If I were to buy a 22" LCD, I would probably get the Dell E228WFP. I don't believe there is any "panel lottery" yet with this monitor.

The reason why I would consider the Dell is because it is a fast TN panel without the need to use overdrive technology. All other 22" LCD monitors uses overdrive to lower response times which is generally bad for color accuracy. TN panels naturally are bad for color accuracy, overdrive just makes them worse.

Here's a review of the Dell:

http://www.prad.de/en/monitore/rev [...] 28wfp.html

That seems nice, but in comparison to the "s" samsung 226bw, which is better, because I can get an s from circuit city :?

Is it guaranteed to get an S if I buy from circuitcity ?

BTW I see that people who are very happy with 226BW all have S panels.

Maybe I should gamble, it is a high probability that I get an S. Still scary...

I am talking about pixel count not inches or centimeters. The dotpitch can be changed. As with the 20" 206BW & 22" 226BW Samsungs, the resolution is the same (1680*1050)but the dotpitch is different making the 20" a smaller thus tighter screen.

Yes I also measured the height and width of the different sizes these are in inches to the nearest 1/8 inch

Normal 4:3
17 - 13.25*10.625
19 - 14.75*11.875
21 - 16.25*12.125

What struck me odd here was the small difference between the height of the 21" and 19 inch panels

Wide screen
20 - 17.125*10.75
22 - 18.50*12.00
24 - 20.25*13.00

ALSO concerning the ability to determine is a box holds an A panel or an S panel - I was told that it was NOT on the outside of the box ONLY on the tag located on the back of the monitor.

Do any of you think they are going to open each box for you to determine if it is an A or S panel? you will probably have to buy it first then take it back. Each store may have a different polocy concerning the samsung's now.

WAY too much time on my hands last week

I'd like to believe that the A panels are improving. So far the ones I've seen had the same swere bleeding on the upper and lower sides.

I would appreciate if someone with an A panel can post the screen with a blank screen saver for observing backlight bleeding...


BTW I asked newegg whether their panels are S or A and get the obvious answer "They don't know".

I'm not really sure since I'm not in the market for a 22" LCD. Personally I'm looking at a 24" or 26" LCD which uses 8-bit P-MVA or S-PVA panels. Visual qaulity and view angles of 6-bit TN panel really sucks in my opinion.

If you can get the "S" version of the 226BW at Bestbuy then go for it.

Yeah, they're kinda expensive especially the one that I'm looking at, the BenQ FP241WZ. So far the best price that I've found before shipping is about $780.

At that price I'm kinda thinking about simply forking over $999 for a 26" Planar LCD.

Just like you I don't want to get an insanely powerful GPU (or two) to run a 30" LCD. The 26" Planar has a resolution of 1920 x 1200.

It's worth considering, but I just paid my taxes to Uncle Sam so any purchase will have to wait a few months.

lol who doesnt

OMG you must be the quickest on here replying my tacos

Id have gone bigger, but i prefer to spend my money on other things than a huge display( the prices here in europe are 30% more than there in the states ) and also on a super 8800 card( ill pickup a decent dx10 card alter on in the year when everything settles )

For me theres too much diference in the 22" and 24""( and higher ) ranges, but id like a 30"" too

I got a 226bw for $250 form one of my suppliers, not sure if it's the A or S, don't care, this is a great monitor.

I've had no issues with games, movies, or regular work. A buddy of mine has a 22" Viewsonic, and mine has far better clarity and color in my opinion.

His backlight is less noticable than mine, but hardly a noticable amount. I've never seen a panel that you couldn't see that backlight on anyway. Some are just more pronounced around the edges, mine samy is not.

I also have 2 samsung 17" displays and they are only marginally darker. I have a planar 17 that is much worse.

I've got a 22" NEC and a bunch of 20 and 19 Sony trinitrons, want any?

But Michael and I have what you NEED

Cause my 22" is bigger than yours, and you always need the biggest

Hey, don't insult me, this is a premo piece of equipment, 25k min! I need to make something off the $250 I paid for it

hehe

What a nice surprise :x

Newegg now lists Samsung 226bw as 389$ + 16$ shipping. A week ago it was 319 + free shipping...

Well, there is no way I'm gambling that much on that, moreover even if it was not a gamble I still wouldn;t give 390 bucks to that lcd...

Does anyone has opinions on this one?

ViewSonic Optiquest Series Q22wb

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6824116076

Maybe the Dell E228WFP is worth considering for $279 + shipping + taxes:

Dell E228WFP

Here are two reviews:

http://www.prad.de/en/monitore/rev [...] 28wfp.html

http://www.widescreengamingforum.c [...] php?t=8451

After reading the responses, I'm wondering if I got a bad panel. I've got some backlight bleed on the top and the bottom and a noticeable bleed by the power button (thinking that the LED behind the power button is bleeding into the screen). I thought it was just a normal thing since it was a TN panel. Anyone else have this issue? I feel it's odd since I have an S panel.

Actually the LG 226WT is 5ms, but I've still heard it's a great monitor.