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April 10, 2007 11:52:09 PM

I contacted Shuttle Support to ask what the fastest avialable processor was for my XPC system. Instead of just telling me they sent me a list. As I am a novice builder I really am unsure which of these would be the ideal choice. I will be doing no overclocking, but I would like to know which of these represents the fasted option for the CPU. I included the list below. I assume it's one of the Barton class, but again, I am new to this.

I appreciate any assistance offered, thanks.


SN41G2 V2 (FN41V3.X) / CPU Support List
FSB Multiplier Processor
166MHz 12x AMD Sempron socket 462 2800+
166MHz 11x AMD Sempron socket 462 2600+
166MHz 10.5x AMD Sempron socket 462 2500+
166MHz 10x AMD Sempron socket 462 2400+
166MHz 9.5x AMD Sempron socket 462 2300+
166MHz 9x AMD Sempron socket 462 2200+
100MHz 13x AMD Duron(Morgan) 1.30 GHz
100MHz 12x AMD Duron(Morgan) 1.20 GHz
100MHz 11x AMD Duron(Morgan) 1.10 GHz
100MHz 10x AMD Duron(Morgan) 1.00 GHz
100MHz 9.5x AMD Duron 950 MHz
100MHz 9x AMD Duron 900 MHz
100MHz 8.5x AMD Duron 850 MHz
100MHz 8x AMD Duron 800 MHz
100MHz 7.5x AMD Duron 750 MHz
100MHz 7x AMD Duron 700 MHz
100MHz 6.5x AMD Duron 650 MHz
100MHz 6x AMD Duron 600 MHz
100MHz 13x AMD Duron (Palomino) 1.30 GHz
133MHz 13.5x AMD Duron (Applebred) 1.80 GHz
133MHz 12x AMD Duron (Applebred) 1.60 GHz
133MHz 10.5x AMD Duron (Applebred) 1.40 GHz
166MHz 13x AMD Athlon XP 2700+
166MHz 12.5x AMD Athlon XP 2600+
133MHz 16x AMD Athlon XP 2600+
133MHz 15x AMD Athlon XP 2400+
133MHz 13.5x AMD Athlon XP 2200+
133MHz 13x AMD Athlon XP 2100+
133MHz 12.5x AMD Athlon XP 2000+
133MHz 12x AMD Athlon XP 1900+
133MHz 11.5x AMD Athlon XP 1800+
133MHz 11x AMD Athlon XP 1700+
133MHz 10.5x AMD Athlon XP 1600+
133MHz 10x AMD Athlon XP 1500+
133MHz 15x AMD Athlon XP (Thorton) 2400+
133MHz 13.5x AMD Athlon XP (Thorton) 2200+
133MHz 12.5x AMD Athlon XP (Thorton) 2000+
200MHz 11 x AMD Athlon XP (Barton) 3200+
200MHz 10.5 x AMD Athlon XP (Barton) 3000+
166MHz 13x AMD Athlon XP (Barton) 3000+
166MHz 12.5x AMD Athlon XP (Barton) 2800+
166MHz 11.5x AMD Athlon XP (Barton) 2600+
166MHz 11x AMD Athlon XP (Barton) 2500+
100MHz 9.5x AMD Athlon 950 MHz
100MHz 9x AMD Athlon 900 MHz
100MHz 8.5x AMD Athlon 850 MHz
100MHz 8x AMD Athlon 800 MHz
100MHz 7.5x AMD Athlon 750 MHz
100MHz 7x AMD Athlon 700 MHz
100MHz 6.5x AMD Athlon 650 MHz
133MHz 10.5x AMD Athlon 1.40 GHz
100MHz 14x AMD Athlon 1.40 GHz
133MHz 10x AMD Athlon 1.33 GHz
100MHz 13x AMD Athlon 1.30 GHz
133MHz 9x AMD Athlon 1.20 GHz
100MHz 12x AMD Athlon 1.20 GHz
133MHz 8.5x AMD Athlon 1.13 GHz
100MHz 11x AMD Athlon 1.10GHz
133MHz 7.5x AMD Athlon 1.00 GHz
100MHz 10x AMD Athlon 1.00 GHz

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April 11, 2007 12:10:06 AM

Well, the Barton 3200+ is the fastest CPU on that list, but at this point, I'm not even sure it's worth upgrading to that, it's quite obsolete.
April 11, 2007 12:26:59 AM

Thanks for you help. I appreciate it.

I realize it's an older chip, but I currently have a 2800+ and it's a question of maximizing my old computers potential. I can't really go with a whole new system at this point, so I want to get the most out of the one I've got. It's a gaming system so I'm trying to squeeze a little more life out of it before the next-gen games come out. I can just about get Oblivion to run as is, but it could be smoother. Half-Life 2 goes like a top.
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April 11, 2007 12:29:31 AM

Either the 3200+ Barton, or maybe the 2800+ Sempron. The Sempron if I'm remembering correctly was supposed to have optimizations derived from the Barton core. However the 3200+ Barton might still be faster.

Although if you want to upgrade to a newer AMD based XPC, you can get a socket AM2 barebones for $190 (that's before S/H) at Newegg.
April 11, 2007 12:36:16 AM

There is not a lot of difference between a 2800+ and a 3200+. So you may want to look at upgrading your video card. You can get an x1950xt for AGP. It will be bottle necked but, you will see much more improvements in games.
April 11, 2007 1:10:11 AM

I'm not familiar with Shuttle,but the 3200 200fsb is the top.Unless it would handle an xp-m2600 with good memory it would easily oc to a 2.4(with a good stepping...aqyha).But as you stated your not into oc'in,gl :D .p.s.Not a really good bang for your buck though,I'd stick with the proc and upgrade Video card and 2-2-2-5 memory(maybe you have already) if it's a cl2 motherboard.
April 11, 2007 1:36:51 AM

Been thinking, and the 3200+ Barton would be the best for such an upgrade.
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April 11, 2007 1:59:44 AM

It would be nice to know the rest of the specs of the machine. However, overall, as boomboom said, it won't be a big difference. Also, it's pointless to upgrade it anyway considering it's hard to find Socket A CPU's. Better off saving the money towards a new rig.
April 11, 2007 6:15:30 AM

Well, I was able to find one Barton on Pricewatch, and it's $280. Ouch.

If I were to dump my current guts into a barebones I would want to be able to use current RAM. Otherwise I want to upgrade the video card, looking at an nVidia 7800 Gt or something along those lines. With my current system the issue with a video card upgrade is space - I don't have much. I would need to upgrade my power supply as well. So the barebones is looking like a better option at this point. I have no brand loyalty, bang for the buck is what I'm interested in. Being able to add a PCI type video card would be ideal.

If I were to spend say, $300 on a new barebones, what would you recommend? Again, my primary use for this system is PC games. I would be putting my 2G of RAM, a sound card, a new video card in it. Again, I really appreciate all the assistance. I am in the weeds about this sort of stuff. Feel free to toss in any useful thoughts on getting this up and running for about $300.


These are my current system specs, for comparison.
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Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition
(5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.061219-0316)
System Manufacturer: Shuttle Inc
System Model: SN41V20
BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2800+, MMX, 3DNow, ~2.2GHz
Memory: 2048MB RAM
Crucial 1GB 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200)
Card name: RADEON 9700 PRO
Chip type: ATI Radeon Graphics Processor AGP (0x4E44)
Display Memory: 128.0 MB
Monitor: Dell 2007WFP (Digital)
SB Audigy Audio
April 11, 2007 8:13:45 AM

I think the Duron 600 will be the fastest out of the listed CPU's. :x :x

Seriously, i can't believe you included 600MHz/700/800/1GHz machines in that list. :?
April 11, 2007 8:30:22 AM

Move what you have to a new case, and psu. Add the above mentioned
gfx card.
That will give much more bang for buck than anthing else for less than $400.
April 11, 2007 10:18:39 AM

The point is that all these CPUs are quite expensive now and getting an Athlon64 like this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
+a dirt cheap (~$35) Socket 754 motherboard to reuse everything else will be cheaper and perform better :wink: And since the CPU is a venice core, will give you overclocking headroom to at least 2.6GHz and that's not bad for ~$90 of an upgrade while I doubt you would find an Athlon 3200+ for this price and stil performance wouldn't even come near to that of theS754, 2.2GHz A64 3200+.
April 11, 2007 3:16:21 PM

Yeah that would be good, but he said he want to use his 2gb of ddr ram.

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If I were to spend say, $300 on a new barebones, what would you recommend? Again, my primary use for this system is PC games. I would be putting my 2G of RAM, a sound card, a new video card in it.
April 11, 2007 3:37:55 PM

Yes I agree.

Doing some checking this is what I could come up with on AM2

Case with PS http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811154048 26.99. I have heard that the Allied PS that these use are somewhat reliable.

Memory 2GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820609219 99.99.

Processor http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103639 52.99 There are cheaper ones but this seemed like the best.

Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813135028 55.99 Again there are cheaper ones but this had 4 memory slots instead of two.

Which leaves about enough for a 7300GT for a video card.

So it may be possible.
April 11, 2007 3:38:19 PM

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There is not a lot of difference between a 2800+ and a 3200+. So you may want to look at upgrading your video card. You can get an x1950xt for AGP. It will be bottle necked but, you will see much more improvements in games.


^ smartest post in this thread.
April 11, 2007 4:18:49 PM

That 6600GT is a good deal, especially if you can wait for the MIR.

Though I don't think that the 6600GT is twice as powerful as the 7300GT, it is clocked a bit faster, but that is it. The 7300GT has 8 piplines and the 128bit Memory interface, unlike the LE or GS which have 4 pipelines and a 32 or 64 bit memory interface, yuck.

One advantage to the 7300 is that it uses much less power that the 6600.

But it does look like he could get a decent AM2 system for about $300. We'll have to see if he wants to or not.

EDIT: It looks like you have to be careful with the 7300GT as some of them have a 64bit memory interface, stay away from those.
April 11, 2007 4:40:48 PM

Yeah the X2 3600 is better, faster speed, dual core, and all that fun stuff, but using it primarily for games I was unsure if spending the $20 on that or a better video card would be better.
April 11, 2007 10:02:03 PM

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Ohh, I thought the 7300gt had only 4 pipelines, making the 6600gt only slightly faster, I thought it had twice the pipelines too, oh well, it's still clocked far higher, but the 7300gt does use less power

For $300, yes this does look like a fairly decent build

But I would dump that cpu for the 3600
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
If he has a spare hsf, then he could also save more money and buy the oem instead too :p 
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

C'mon, you're turning it into a totally new, $300 build while he only wanted an upgrade and for a sub $100 upgrade keeping AGP and DDR(1) the Socket 754 is perfect.
April 11, 2007 10:58:02 PM

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Well, the Barton 3200+ is the fastest CPU on that list, but at this point, I'm not even sure it's worth upgrading to that, it's quite obsolete.

Not only that, but it's also very expensive. I sold one on ebay a couple weeks ago for more than $150.
April 11, 2007 11:04:09 PM

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Yeah, that's a good one, but it's 754, not 462, he wanted to max out on his motherboard, otherwise a cheap am2 cpu would have been the better choice, the am2 cpus oc far better (though if I recall he doesn't want to oc)


I think AM2 is out of the question as it will require DDR2.
April 11, 2007 11:20:24 PM

Why on earth would the OP need to upgrade again in a couple months?!?

If you pick a sufficiently fast 939 proc, there's no need. Just about any of the X2 processors available in 939 should do.

Taco, you have a point if the OP is willing to make an investment. the 2GB of RAM alone is half his budget... Plus a proc, plus a mobo, and the 9700pro isn't going to work. The budget has to rise a c-note or two.

By going 939 and reusing everything, you can stay around $300.
April 12, 2007 12:05:30 AM

Wow, I really appreciate the feedback, this is really very helpful. I have never run across a more helpful and educated forum. It's sort of amazing.

Overclocking - Probably not going to. If I could get meaningful results with stock parts and minimal risk I'd take a swipe at it, but 3% to 5% improvements aren't going to lure me into a whole new computer dicipline. It's become very complex since I last built a system in 2001 8O .

Current RAM - Literally just bought it. I would ideally like to keep using it, but I am flexible about all of this. Again, at the end of the day for me it's about getting a high end game like Oblivion to run well, so if there is a reasonable way to get 2 gig of RAM in a new system I would. As it stands now, it would be a shame to dump it so soon.

Future Upgrades - I would of course like to have a path to the new stuff that appears on the scene. I am willing to spend a little more to get that. But as a former twice a year buyer of new video cards I have a much longer run with my gear. I would probably not upgrade a video card unless it was a generational level improvement, for instance.

Once again, a great thread for anyone who is on the cusp of a new system on a budget. Thanks to all who have offered advice, it is appreciated.
April 12, 2007 12:14:49 AM

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Thee aren't any x2s available for 939 though, you have to go opty now, unless if newegg magically got some more in stock. But the op said he's willing to spend up to $450, so I think am2 is an option


Newegg isn't the only company that sells parts. although they have the 3800+ in 939 (OEM though) for $96. They're around if you look hard enough.

If the OP lived near a Fry's Electronics (my 2nd home) I'd tell them that they often run a X2 3800+ 65W and an ECS mobo (w/ PCI-E) for $90. Add $100 (AR) for 2GB of DDR-667. and use ebay or craigslist to obtain a reasonable new video card- I've seen 7950GT's on CL for $160 here in SF. 7600GTs on ebay are in the $110 range. What are 1950GTs going for?
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April 12, 2007 12:28:58 AM

You could always sell that Athlon XP machine and use the money to buy a new AM2 system. Socket A/754/ are dead, buying ANYTHING Socket 939 is now a waste of money. AMD is really only making AM2 chips. I think you are better off saving the money and build a new system.
April 12, 2007 12:36:20 AM

Okay, maybe try to find Asrock dual (939)with am2 adapter.
Pick an am2 proc that fits your budget and go from there.
You can reuse everything else. I think.
(Ya'll correct me if I'm wrong.)That's what I did.
I went 939,so I can't comment on the functionality of the am2 adapter.
Build up cash reserves and up grade video because you got
both slots.(country&western)agp&pcie.
You should be able to get an Opty & that MB for $300.

Of Course ,I'm like waaaaaayyy drunk.
But, at least I speak from experience.

good luck
April 12, 2007 12:39:35 AM

every time i check newegg and gas prices, i get in the mood to beat you all americans! lucky bastards! :twisted:
April 12, 2007 2:48:19 PM

forget who makes it but there was an AM2 motherboard that could use DDR or DDR2 memory you might research this, then you ould use your ram and go with an AM2 cpu. Best of both worlds.
April 13, 2007 3:22:56 AM

you need to sell your current hardware on ebay. I was in the same situation as the OP and I sold my:
mobo A7N8X-E deluxe $80
CPU XP2500+ $50
Heatsint&Fan SI-97A 3-speed quietfan $58!!!!
Mem 2x512MB OCZ DDR400/DDR600 $180
Vid card AIW X800XT $175

Those are approx moneys I got for parts but I got well over $500, I got close to $600 for my parts

You then take your money and buy:
GA-965P-DS3 $115
2x1GB stix Partiot Extreme DDR800 $150
E4300 $150
$150 for a decent PCI-E vid card and your in the game

you put in a $100 of your own money if you dont get enough for your parts on ebay. That E4300 will instantly be set to 266FSB by you in the bios and you've basically have a E6600 core 2 Duo and your in the game baby!!! My E4300 runs 9x334 = 3.0Ghz without even trying, but I have a Scythe ninja, another $40.

Sorry if I repeated but I only read the first page.
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