XP update Service Pack 1 problem

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When I run Windows Update, it tells me that I need Service Pack 1, even
though this is a new computer. It seems that Service Pack 2 is already
installed. When I then try to install SP 1, it seems to be hung up. I hear
that it takes awhile to install, but today after 5 hours I decided that was
ridiculous. Oh, and I am on High Speed. Anyone know what might be wrong?

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""SP1 has nothing whatsoever to do with Windows"? Please elucidate on the
wierd statement.


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johnf

> Cybernana wrote:
>> When I run Windows Update, it tells me that I need Service Pack 1,
>> even though this is a new computer. It seems that Service Pack 2 is
>> already installed. When I then try to install SP 1, it seems to be
>> hung up. I hear that it takes awhile to install, but today after 5
>> hours I decided that was ridiculous. Oh, and I am on High Speed.
>> Anyone know what might be wrong?
>
> It is becoming quite clear to me that people do not read the
> description of what they are installing, nor do they bother to search
> for answers to problems. I have answered this question four times this
> week! SP1 has nothing whatsoever to do with Windows (the names of the
> downloads are all in bold, so I don't understand why people don't see
> them) it's SP1 for the .NET Framework.
>
> If you install Windows updates this blindly - how blase are you about
> installing other things on your computer - things that might not do it
> much good...?
>
>
> --
> In memory of MS MVP Alex Nichol: http://www.dts-l.org/

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'Tick' - "Any of two families of small parasitic arachnids with barbed
proboscis; feed on blood of warm-blooded animals"
I think that sums it up.
I suggest you ignore anything posted by this sarcastic person & just check
for construcive advice.

The situation as far as I know is as follows -
Xp was released, then there followed a series of Critical Updates over a
period of time.
Then MS released Service Pack (SP1) , which consolidated all the
previousCritical Updates

Recently, SP2 was released , which is a composite of SP1 & supercedes it, a
it contains ALL the previous fixes & does NOT need SP
1 to be installed.
Clean you whole system with a good Anti-virus program, run a good basic
program such as RegSupreme to clean all the rubbish out. then install SP2

--

johnf

> Hmmm, Thanks (I think) for your reply. This request for an update
> comes through the Windows Update feature, and it is marked as Critical.
> Since it comes from there and is a Microsoft Update, most people I
> would think would expect to require it. As to your complaint about
> answering 4 times, well I just joined the newsgroup last night, and
> didn't see anything resembling your answer in the 300 messages that I
> downloaded. If it's a pain, just don't answer in the future I suppose,
> although that is a shame if you really do want to help people. Anyway,
> I do appreciate your reply, sarcastic as it was.
>
>
>
> Review high priority updates
> High priority updates are critical and security-related updates.
>
>
> Microsoft strongly recommends that you install the following high
> priority updates to help keep your computer up-to-date and secure. To
> install these updates, click the Go to install updates link.
>
>
> Total updates selected: 0 items, 0 KB, 0 minutes
> Go to install updates
> High Priority Updates
> Microsoft Corporation - Windows XP family
>
>
>
> Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 Service Pack 1
> Download size: 0 KB, 0 minutes
> Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 Service Pack 1 resolves various issues
> found after the initial release of .NET Framework 1.1. These include
> both security- and non-security-related issues. After you install this
> item, you may have to restart your computer. Once you have installed
> this item, it cannot be removed. Details...
> Hide this update
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Miss Perspicacia Tick" <test@test.com> wrote in message
> news:UC68e.83035$t%4.19118@fe07.highwinds-media.phx...
>> Cybernana wrote:
>>> When I run Windows Update, it tells me that I need Service Pack 1,
>>> even though this is a new computer. It seems that Service Pack 2 is
>>> already installed. When I then try to install SP 1, it seems to be
>>> hung up. I hear that it takes awhile to install, but today after 5
>>> hours I decided that was ridiculous. Oh, and I am on High Speed.
>>> Anyone know what might be wrong?
>>
>> It is becoming quite clear to me that people do not read the
>> description of
>> what they are installing, nor do they bother to search for answers to
>> problems. I have answered this question four times this week! SP1 has
>> nothing whatsoever to do with Windows (the names of the downloads are
>> all in
>> bold, so I don't understand why people don't see them) it's SP1 for the
>> .NET
>> Framework.
>>
>> If you install Windows updates this blindly - how blase are you about
>> installing other things on your computer - things that might not do it
>> much
>> good...?
>>
>>
>> --
>> In memory of MS MVP Alex Nichol: http://www.dts-l.org/

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If I had a new system with a legit XP CD install & the full SP2 (272 MB)
download installed (or their equiv. CD of the same 272 MB size), and kept
getting that message, I'd be straight on the phone to MS - if I got no
sensible reply or help from the replier, I'd immediately insist on speaking
to their Supervisor. That gets them off their bum quick smart & often gets
you upgraded to someone who knows what they're talking about.

I live in OZ but it works every time. That kicks off what they call 'the
escalation system' - but make sure You have all your facts right first (and
if you manage to do it that way, the best part is "No Charge", as they are
both their products & responsibility to support.)


--

johnf

> Thanks John,
>
> That's the confusing thing. This is a new computer and is running
> SP2........therefore I don't understand why they come up and say it's a
> critical update for SP1. I'll just hide that notice for the future,
> and do nothing. Appreciate your reply.
>
>
>
> "johnf" <john_f@bigpond.net.a> wrote in message
> news:eg9%237ZpQFHA.1172@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> 'Tick' - "Any of two families of small parasitic arachnids with barbed
>> proboscis; feed on blood of warm-blooded animals"
>> I think that sums it up.
>> I suggest you ignore anything posted by this sarcastic person & just
>> check for construcive advice.
>>
>> The situation as far as I know is as follows -
>> Xp was released, then there followed a series of Critical Updates over
>> a period of time.
>> Then MS released Service Pack (SP1) , which consolidated all the
>> previousCritical Updates
>>
>> Recently, SP2 was released , which is a composite of SP1 & supercedes
>> it, a it contains ALL the previous fixes & does NOT need SP
>> 1 to be installed.
>> Clean you whole system with a good Anti-virus program, run a good
>> basic program such as RegSupreme to clean all the rubbish out. then
>> install SP2
>> --
>>
>> johnf
>>
>>> Hmmm, Thanks (I think) for your reply. This request for an update
>>> comes through the Windows Update feature, and it is marked as
>>> Critical. Since it comes from there and is a Microsoft Update, most
>>> people I would think would expect to require it. As to your
>>> complaint about answering 4 times, well I just joined the newsgroup
>>> last night, and didn't see anything resembling your answer in the 300
>>> messages that I downloaded. If it's a pain, just don't answer in the
>>> future I suppose, although that is a shame if you really do want to
>>> help people. Anyway, I do appreciate your reply, sarcastic as it was.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Review high priority updates
>>> High priority updates are critical and security-related updates.
>>>
>>>
>>> Microsoft strongly recommends that you install the following high
>>> priority updates to help keep your computer up-to-date and secure. To
>>> install these updates, click the Go to install updates link.
>>>
>>>
>>> Total updates selected: 0 items, 0 KB, 0 minutes
>>> Go to install updates
>>> High Priority Updates
>>> Microsoft Corporation - Windows XP family
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 Service Pack 1
>>> Download size: 0 KB, 0 minutes
>>> Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 Service Pack 1 resolves various
>>> issues found after the initial release of .NET Framework 1.1. These
>>> include both security- and non-security-related issues. After you
>>> install this item, you may have to restart your computer. Once you
>>> have installed this item, it cannot be removed. Details...
>>> Hide this update
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Miss Perspicacia Tick" <test@test.com> wrote in message
>>> news:UC68e.83035$t%4.19118@fe07.highwinds-media.phx...
>>>> Cybernana wrote:
>>>>> When I run Windows Update, it tells me that I need Service Pack 1,
>>>>> even though this is a new computer. It seems that Service Pack 2 is
>>>>> already installed. When I then try to install SP 1, it seems to be
>>>>> hung up. I hear that it takes awhile to install, but today after 5
>>>>> hours I decided that was ridiculous. Oh, and I am on High Speed.
>>>>> Anyone know what might be wrong?
>>>>
>>>> It is becoming quite clear to me that people do not read the
>>>> description of
>>>> what they are installing, nor do they bother to search for answers to
>>>> problems. I have answered this question four times this week! SP1 has
>>>> nothing whatsoever to do with Windows (the names of the downloads are
>>>> all in
>>>> bold, so I don't understand why people don't see them) it's SP1 for
>>>> the .NET
>>>> Framework.
>>>>
>>>> If you install Windows updates this blindly - how blase are you about
>>>> installing other things on your computer - things that might not do
>>>> it much
>>>> good...?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> In memory of MS MVP Alex Nichol: http://www.dts-l.org/

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics (More info?)

What Ms. Tick was referring to, albeit colourfully, was that the SP1 was
applied to the .NET Framework; it wasn't referring to the XP Service Pack 1
package. The two are separate. Since you had XP Service Pack 2 installed,
Windows Update wasn't prompting you to download the older version. Rather,
it was offering an update for .NET, which should be installed. That it
wasn't installing is another problem altogether.

You can remove .NET Framework through Add/Remove and attempt to reinstall
it. You can download it from here too:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads [...] laylang=en

I hope that helps.

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______________________________________________
Michael Katz
[Microsoft MVP - MSN Client]
"There's no I in 'team' but there is 'me'"
http://msmvps.com/msntral

This posting is provided 'AS IS' with no warranties, and confers no rights.



"Cybernana" <cybernana59@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:GPd8e.7021$MZ2.1058376@news20.bellglobal.com...
> Thx for advice, from a grateful Canadian......I think I'll do that next
> week AFTER INCOME TAXES ARE DONE.........HA HA.
>
>
> "johnf" <john_f@bigpond.net.a> wrote in message
> news:%23O15GQrQFHA.3156@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> If I had a new system with a legit XP CD install & the full SP2 (272 MB)
>> download installed (or their equiv. CD of the same 272 MB size), and kept
>> getting that message, I'd be straight on the phone to MS - if I got no
>> sensible reply or help from the replier, I'd immediately insist on
>> speaking to their Supervisor. That gets them off their bum quick smart &
>> often gets you upgraded to someone who knows what they're talking about.
>>
>> I live in OZ but it works every time. That kicks off what they call 'the
>> escalation system' - but make sure You have all your facts right first
>> (and if you manage to do it that way, the best part is "No Charge", as
>> they are both their products & responsibility to support.)
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> johnf
>>
>>> Thanks John,
>>>
>>> That's the confusing thing. This is a new computer and is running
>>> SP2........therefore I don't understand why they come up and say it's a
>>> critical update for SP1. I'll just hide that notice for the future,
>>> and do nothing. Appreciate your reply.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "johnf" <john_f@bigpond.net.a> wrote in message
>>> news:eg9%237ZpQFHA.1172@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>>> 'Tick' - "Any of two families of small parasitic arachnids with barbed
>>>> proboscis; feed on blood of warm-blooded animals"
>>>> I think that sums it up.
>>>> I suggest you ignore anything posted by this sarcastic person & just
>>>> check for construcive advice.
>>>>
>>>> The situation as far as I know is as follows -
>>>> Xp was released, then there followed a series of Critical Updates over
>>>> a period of time.
>>>> Then MS released Service Pack (SP1) , which consolidated all the
>>>> previousCritical Updates
>>>>
>>>> Recently, SP2 was released , which is a composite of SP1 & supercedes
>>>> it, a it contains ALL the previous fixes & does NOT need SP
>>>> 1 to be installed.
>>>> Clean you whole system with a good Anti-virus program, run a good
>>>> basic program such as RegSupreme to clean all the rubbish out. then
>>>> install SP2
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> johnf
>>>>
>>>>> Hmmm, Thanks (I think) for your reply. This request for an update
>>>>> comes through the Windows Update feature, and it is marked as
>>>>> Critical. Since it comes from there and is a Microsoft Update, most
>>>>> people I would think would expect to require it. As to your
>>>>> complaint about answering 4 times, well I just joined the newsgroup
>>>>> last night, and didn't see anything resembling your answer in the 300
>>>>> messages that I downloaded. If it's a pain, just don't answer in the
>>>>> future I suppose, although that is a shame if you really do want to
>>>>> help people. Anyway, I do appreciate your reply, sarcastic as it was.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Review high priority updates
>>>>> High priority updates are critical and security-related updates.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Microsoft strongly recommends that you install the following high
>>>>> priority updates to help keep your computer up-to-date and secure. To
>>>>> install these updates, click the Go to install updates link.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Total updates selected: 0 items, 0 KB, 0 minutes
>>>>> Go to install updates
>>>>> High Priority Updates
>>>>> Microsoft Corporation - Windows XP family
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 Service Pack 1
>>>>> Download size: 0 KB, 0 minutes
>>>>> Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 Service Pack 1 resolves various
>>>>> issues found after the initial release of .NET Framework 1.1. These
>>>>> include both security- and non-security-related issues. After you
>>>>> install this item, you may have to restart your computer. Once you
>>>>> have installed this item, it cannot be removed. Details...
>>>>> Hide this update
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Miss Perspicacia Tick" <test@test.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:UC68e.83035$t%4.19118@fe07.highwinds-media.phx...
>>>>>> Cybernana wrote:
>>>>>>> When I run Windows Update, it tells me that I need Service Pack 1,
>>>>>>> even though this is a new computer. It seems that Service Pack 2 is
>>>>>>> already installed. When I then try to install SP 1, it seems to be
>>>>>>> hung up. I hear that it takes awhile to install, but today after 5
>>>>>>> hours I decided that was ridiculous. Oh, and I am on High Speed.
>>>>>>> Anyone know what might be wrong?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is becoming quite clear to me that people do not read the
>>>>>> description of
>>>>>> what they are installing, nor do they bother to search for answers to
>>>>>> problems. I have answered this question four times this week! SP1 has
>>>>>> nothing whatsoever to do with Windows (the names of the downloads are
>>>>>> all in
>>>>>> bold, so I don't understand why people don't see them) it's SP1 for
>>>>>> the .NET
>>>>>> Framework.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you install Windows updates this blindly - how blase are you about
>>>>>> installing other things on your computer - things that might not do
>>>>>> it much
>>>>>> good...?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> In memory of MS MVP Alex Nichol: http://www.dts-l.org/
>>
>>
>
>