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October 15, 2006 3:10:16 AM

1. UAP. User account protection. This annoying feature will have you answering yes or no questions endlessly until you put it out of it's misery in user accounts. ( Turn it off for God's sake). The bad news, then, is that UAP is a sad, sad joke. It's the most annoying feature that Microsoft has ever added to any software product, and yes, that includes that ridiculous Clippy character from older Office versions.

2. The 'Aero Look'. Another annoying feature. Why? Every single time I open a program Vista informs me that it is switching to basic windows. The screen 'pops'. This is very disturbing. (I have tested this since it was named 'Longhorn'.

3. Vista requires roughly 3 times the RAM that Xp uses to do the same thing. Unless your PC is at least 3 GHz with 2 Gigs of RAM it'll move like molasses in the wintertime.

4. The price. WHY is it so over priced? The upgrade to Vista Ultimate alone is listed at Amazon.com for $259.00.

5. I do not have access to basic windows files. I am locked out of files like 'My Documents'. Microsoft has decided that the average User is too stupid to allow access to certain Windows files. This is insulting. I am offended. I know security is an issue an all, but locking a person out of certain files is Not the answer. The User is locked into a Roaming profile, thus they are disallowed access to certain Windows files.

6. Broken promises
Windows Vista was going to include a completely rewritten file system, based on SQL Server and once called Storage+. Later renamed to WinFS, this file system was downgraded to a "storage engine," meaning that it would, in fact, run on top of the decades-old NTFS file system. Then WinFS was stripped out of Windows Vista because the performance was so horrible.

7. The pain of migration. And why not Just stay with Windows Xp? At least all of my programs work. Think: what big advantage are you getting? Security? I don't know...with a good Firewall and anti-virus you're all set.
October 15, 2006 3:13:57 AM

This is wonderful information but there is a place for this. Its not here. This is the CPU section in the Hardware forums. There is a Software section specifically for this.
This section is for information about CPUs not Vista, XP or any other OS.
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October 15, 2006 3:31:52 AM

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October 15, 2006 3:33:50 AM

Reasons not to start threads like this:

1. No-one gives a ****.
October 15, 2006 3:36:30 AM

When will Toms add Windows Vista in the software section, then maybe people will post it in there...

Officially there is no Vista section except "software" in general, which doesnt help any.

Mainly what Im saying is can someone request or make a Windows Vista section in software?


Thanks Storm~
October 15, 2006 3:37:40 AM

I dont need reasons to not want to use it. I actualy need a reason to use it since i see no reason to use it. Where is the upgrade?
October 15, 2006 3:37:57 AM

When Vista comes out, and when there are a reasonable amount of users, they'll deem it nessesary to take up server space to do so. Until then, its as useful as a Mac section.
October 15, 2006 3:38:09 AM

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This is wonderful information but there is a place for this. Its not here. This is the CPU section in the Hardware forums. There is a Software section specifically for this.
This section is for information about CPUs not Vista, XP or any other OS.


Good point - I have asked the Forumz Developer, Steve_Sa, to "create" a pre-release, General Discussion forum for Vista in Software ... he said he would get to it this weekend. I'll move all Vista threads there when it's available. :) 
October 15, 2006 3:38:49 AM

Don't do that if everyone ignores Vista may it will just go away.
October 15, 2006 3:40:35 AM

Whoa, we have been visited by the forum godz.
October 15, 2006 3:48:02 AM

i hope you sacrificed a ram stick in his honor.
October 15, 2006 3:49:32 AM

Nope, I was hoping for a donation, like your soul for instance. That I'll sacrifice. RAM is too expensive.
October 15, 2006 4:00:22 AM

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Don't do that if everyone ignores Vista may it will just go away.

Quote of the day! :wink:
October 15, 2006 4:06:43 AM

Wow, reading your rants shows your a noob, my computer (in the sig) ran vista absolutely fine all the advanced features and so forth. Also I experienced none of the issues you mentioned while using build 5600 (rc-1) my only problem was not being able to use Nero-6, so please don't nub up the forums. Granted games ran about 5fps slower...but that's not a big deal cause it's not officially finished.
October 15, 2006 4:07:02 AM

You were just waiting till 12 to post that, weren't you?
October 15, 2006 4:51:12 AM

3lfk1ng: Ok, maybe you did not read my original post. If anyone, I do not care what your PC hardware is: has chosen to activate the 'Aero' look windows will pop up a ballon informing you that it is switching to 'Basic Windows style'. I find this annoying. I suppose some people might not.
RC2 ran fine on My Dual 3.4 GHz Xeon, 2 Gigs on DDR2 RAM, 512 MB Video card. Its the overall design that is poor. Again, I do not believe you read my original post. And if you did....well, I assure you I am not a 'Nob'. I do computer work for a living, for over 20 years....Windows Millinium in my opinion was a better operating system than Vista.
October 15, 2006 4:55:32 AM

If anything, we don't give a flying f^ck about this topic because its not in its proper place. We're in the section to talk about CPU's. So before you get the minerals to start attacking someone, note where the f^ck you are, take a gander at how negative the response was, and stay quiet. You'd think you'd learn your lesson by the response you'd gotten, but nooo. You have to be a hard ass.
You want to rant about Vista? Fine, you have the 1st Ammendment to help you with that.
But when you're here, put your posts where they belong.
October 15, 2006 5:03:07 AM

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This is wonderful information but there is a place for this. Its not here. This is the CPU section in the Hardware forums. There is a Software section specifically for this.
This section is for information about CPUs not Vista, XP or any other OS.


Good point - I have asked the Forumz Developer, Steve_Sa, to "create" a pre-release, General Discussion forum for Vista in Software ... he said he would get to it this weekend. I'll move all Vista threads there when it's available. :) 

He could name it Crapware 101
October 15, 2006 5:48:41 AM

Uhh you can turn off UAC, I only have one program that turns to basic mode. The ram is not a big deal I mean ram is not overly expensive and you could always buy a flash drive and use ReadyBoost. WinFS ehh its fine without. Price yes the price is a bit too high, I cant believe they actually are going to charge 400$. Being locked out of your folders I dont have a problem with my documents and all the stuff in that I do have a problem with like local settings and documents and settings those can be overcame easily and should not be a reason not upgrade especially if you are a gamer.
October 15, 2006 6:56:06 AM

My problem here is haveing a actual reason to upgrade.
October 15, 2006 7:04:27 AM

I don't know about you guys, but I can't wait for Vista. Legitimate excuse to upgrade.
October 15, 2006 7:05:29 AM

Because Bill Gates needs a bigger estate?
October 15, 2006 7:12:48 AM

lol me to but thats not a reason to upgrade. (gets the joke) i just havent seen anything on vista that makes me think its even a upgrade at all unless adressing more memory is a upgrade (which in the future its sure to be) I defanitly dont care about the 3D GUI just another excuse to have to buy more hardware you dont need to run something you dont need in a OS you do need (assuming you wish to be able to run anything) in a computer you may or not need but want and want to be able to run anything. Actualy let me put it this way. Ill buy vista like i have "bought" all my windows software in the past ;) 
October 15, 2006 7:40:14 AM

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lol me to but thats not a reason to upgrade. (gets the joke) i just havent seen anything on vista that makes me think its even a upgrade at all unless adressing more memory is a upgrade (which in the future its sure to be) I defanitly dont care about the 3D GUI just another excuse to have to buy more hardware you dont need to run something you dont need in a OS you do need (assuming you wish to be able to run anything) in a computer you may or not need but want and want to be able to run anything. Actualy let me put it this way. Ill buy vista like i have "bought" all my windows software in the past ;) 


Oh, I concur. I doubt I will even consider Vista at least until SP1 has been released and after the OEM copies have hit the market with the attendant price drops.

The funny thing is, its just an OS. It not like a new version of Adobe, or Coreldraw that may actually have new and useful features for acomplishing a task. No mater how much they complicate it, its still just an OS. Its there to support the system and provide a platform for programs, not to overwhelm the system or consume a ridiculous amount of its resources.
October 15, 2006 7:43:49 AM

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Actualy let me put it this way. Ill buy vista like i have "bought" all my windows software in the past ;) 


Wait a sec.... Isn't Vista supposed to be impossible to pirate? Oh, nevermind, XP was also and that never happened.
Just like Vista is supposed to end all security problems..... I guess that'll never happen either. :?
What's the point?
October 15, 2006 7:47:05 AM

I wish it would go back to a platform to run the system (DiskOperatingSystem) but hell im one of those guys who would rather have something simple as dos anything else you want you could buy keeping alot of software companys in business instead of MS putting crappy clones of such programs into the DOS. I think my idea of the ideal OS would be to complicated for most people however. I preffered it like hte old days DOS and windows if you wanted it.
October 15, 2006 8:15:12 AM

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1. UAP. User account protection. This annoying feature will have you answering yes or no questions endlessly until you put it out of it's misery in user accounts. ( Turn it off for God's sake). The bad news, then, is that UAP is a sad, sad joke. It's the most annoying feature that Microsoft has ever added to any software product, and yes, that includes that ridiculous Clippy character from older Office versions.

2. The 'Aero Look'. Another annoying feature. Why? Every single time I open a program Vista informs me that it is switching to basic windows. The screen 'pops'. This is very disturbing. (I have tested this since it was named 'Longhorn'.

3. Vista requires roughly 3 times the RAM that Xp uses to do the same thing. Unless your PC is at least 3 GHz with 2 Gigs of RAM it'll move like molasses in the wintertime.

4. The price. WHY is it so over priced? The upgrade to Vista Ultimate alone is listed at Amazon.com for $259.00.

5. I do not have access to basic windows files. I am locked out of files like 'My Documents'. Microsoft has decided that the average User is too stupid to allow access to certain Windows files. This is insulting. I am offended. I know security is an issue an all, but locking a person out of certain files is Not the answer. The User is locked into a Roaming profile, thus they are disallowed access to certain Windows files.

6. Broken promises
Windows Vista was going to include a completely rewritten file system, based on SQL Server and once called Storage+. Later renamed to WinFS, this file system was downgraded to a "storage engine," meaning that it would, in fact, run on top of the decades-old NTFS file system. Then WinFS was stripped out of Windows Vista because the performance was so horrible.

7. The pain of migration. And why not Just stay with Windows Xp? At least all of my programs work. Think: what big advantage are you getting? Security? I don't know...with a good Firewall and anti-virus you're all set.


1. Agreed

2. Aero is cool, however it drains battery life like a little hoare. Not an issue for me, but i can imagine a lot of Laptop users being very pissed. And next to useless, its a lot like google earth, fun for about 10 minutes, then you get the fuck over it. So, Agreed.

3. Well, acutally it runs fine on my Pentium D 820 and 1 gig of ram, a system that scores 4.6 in the VIsta Hardware scory thing. Beta 2 was a lot slower, so i dont know whether u wrote this from Beta 2 or RC1.

4. You still pay for software?

5. Your only locked out of XP my documents, however, curiously enough, u can use XP to access Vista Documents folders. You can, in vista proclaim ownership over XP files, but you have to do it one at a time, which is, needless to say tedious. I'm sure there is a registry value you can tweak to remove this anyways.

6. IF the performance was horrible, is it not a good thing that they removed an unneeded feature. If only the same call had been made on Aero :p 

7. Well, some idiot admin will force it on you eventually. and it does look pretty.
October 15, 2006 8:21:06 AM

Vista like all other windows operating systems will be able to run good enough on specs much lower then they say it should be ran on. Then it will simply run on specs lower then that. I like #4 btw XD
October 15, 2006 8:28:01 AM

well.....

I want vista to be realsed in order to get a hardware upgrade.......meaning building a new one.

I remember the early copy of xp sending me on the BSOD as soon it was slightly loaded. Now i can say it became a very stable OS with the SPs when compared to WIN98 ( the last os i had before xp). the same thing will happen with vista IMO.

so when i get my new pc i would still remain on xp, playing games, office work etc for its stability, then when i have some cash in hand i would get a copy of vista and go in dual boot and i would not make it my primary boot untill i think its stable. IMO
October 15, 2006 8:32:36 AM

I dont use it simply because its stable. It offered a large benafit over 98 which i used until XP pro was out. Vista doesnt seem to offer that. Course i have never had a unstable OS before :-/ i didnt even know what the XP BSOD looked like till this past few months when i ran my system into the ground. the single core cpu and 1 gig of ram got eaten up like nothing :o 
October 15, 2006 9:03:50 AM

There are only 2 reasons to upgrade to Vista IMHO...

Some DX10 only games come out, thus you are forced

Security support (extended support) ends, this is due to happen in December 2013

So unless some idiot game house releases a DX10 only game, you are good until 2013 with XP Pro....
October 15, 2006 9:06:53 AM

sigh forgot about the stupid and imo illegal support term thing for windows :-/ There will be a dx10 only game before that im sure hopefully they will add some "fetures" to it before then that are usefull. I miss the good old days lol when everyone could make the DOS programs with equal support and thier own options :(  ill just hope they make a DX10 version for xp pro.
October 15, 2006 9:38:10 AM

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1. UAP. User account protection. This annoying feature will have you answering yes or no questions endlessly until you put it out of it's misery in user accounts. ( Turn it off for God's sake). The bad news, then, is that UAP is a sad, sad joke. It's the most annoying feature that Microsoft has ever added to any software product, and yes, that includes that ridiculous Clippy character from older Office versions.

2. The 'Aero Look'. Another annoying feature. Why? Every single time I open a program Vista informs me that it is switching to basic windows. The screen 'pops'. This is very disturbing. (I have tested this since it was named 'Longhorn'.

3. Vista requires roughly 3 times the RAM that Xp uses to do the same thing. Unless your PC is at least 3 GHz with 2 Gigs of RAM it'll move like molasses in the wintertime.

4. The price. WHY is it so over priced? The upgrade to Vista Ultimate alone is listed at Amazon.com for $259.00.

5. I do not have access to basic windows files. I am locked out of files like 'My Documents'. Microsoft has decided that the average User is too stupid to allow access to certain Windows files. This is insulting. I am offended. I know security is an issue an all, but locking a person out of certain files is Not the answer. The User is locked into a Roaming profile, thus they are disallowed access to certain Windows files.

6. Broken promises
Windows Vista was going to include a completely rewritten file system, based on SQL Server and once called Storage+. Later renamed to WinFS, this file system was downgraded to a "storage engine," meaning that it would, in fact, run on top of the decades-old NTFS file system. Then WinFS was stripped out of Windows Vista because the performance was so horrible.

7. The pain of migration. And why not Just stay with Windows Xp? At least all of my programs work. Think: what big advantage are you getting? Security? I don't know...with a good Firewall and anti-virus you're all set.


1. This is a little annoying, but to be honest it's not all that serious. I have no problem with having to allow a program to run (in fact I like this aspect of it), I hate having to allow myself, logged in as the Administrator, to move a few folders around in my Start Menu. PITA. I'm sure this will be better on release.

2. This is a hardware limitation of DX9 cards. When you get a DX10 card this will virtually never happen. As it is, it's pretty rare. It only occurs when you run a 3d program in a window. Even then a program that is properly coded won't affect this. Unfortunately, virtually nothing is prperly coded. When it does happen though, it's bloody annoying. It's rare however.

3. You don't know what you're talking about. You need 1Gb for Vista. You pretty much need 1Gb for XP. If you don't have it XP is more forgiving, but both suck without it (unless you're talking an absolutely bare XP install, which only needs 512 be usable). Also, 3Ghz isn't really needed either, although you wouldn't want to be too far away from this (assuming your running a craptastic Pentium CPU). Personally, I'm running Vista on the CPU in my sig, and Vista runs a freakish amount faster than XP does. This is true on every dual-core machine I've tested (seven, all running AMD X2 3800-4800s, except mine). The only single core I tested was an AthlonXP 2400+/1Gb which ran it fine, but no faster than XP (but not slower either).

4. Honestly, I have no idea how much it'll cost (where I am, Aus), but I'm expecting the OEM Ultimate Edition to be under AU$300 (US$225), which I deem reasonable for a brand-new OS. Also, most people shouldn't be looking at Ultimate, but rather at Home Premium. That said, I will only consider Ultimate. Who knows why :) 

5. This one has nothing to do with reality (have you even used Vista?), so I'm leaving it alone.

6. What Microsoft aims to do isn't a promise, it's a proposed feature. Get the f*** over it, mate. That said, I'm annoyed about the changes to virtual folders, but only because I liked them how they were in very early builds.

7. This one I think is the most valid point. Switching is pretty painless, but there's probably a lot of programs that don't work (so far I've found one, which is HoMMV, though I've heard of others). I'm loving Vista, but I wouldn't advise ANYONE to switch over just yet. If you build a new PC next year, go for it for sure, but I wouldn't upgrade from XP (unless you're willing to dual-boot, like I will) for another year or eighteen months yet.
October 15, 2006 11:12:55 AM

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1. UAP. User account protection. This annoying feature will have you answering yes or no questions endlessly until you put it out of it's misery in user accounts. ( Turn it off for God's sake). The bad news, then, is that UAP is a sad, sad joke. It's the most annoying feature that Microsoft has ever added to any software product, and yes, that includes that ridiculous Clippy character from older Office versions.

2. The 'Aero Look'. Another annoying feature. Why? Every single time I open a program Vista informs me that it is switching to basic windows. The screen 'pops'. This is very disturbing. (I have tested this since it was named 'Longhorn'.

3. Vista requires roughly 3 times the RAM that Xp uses to do the same thing. Unless your PC is at least 3 GHz with 2 Gigs of RAM it'll move like molasses in the wintertime.

4. The price. WHY is it so over priced? The upgrade to Vista Ultimate alone is listed at Amazon.com for $259.00.

5. I do not have access to basic windows files. I am locked out of files like 'My Documents'. Microsoft has decided that the average User is too stupid to allow access to certain Windows files. This is insulting. I am offended. I know security is an issue an all, but locking a person out of certain files is Not the answer. The User is locked into a Roaming profile, thus they are disallowed access to certain Windows files.

6. Broken promises
Windows Vista was going to include a completely rewritten file system, based on SQL Server and once called Storage+. Later renamed to WinFS, this file system was downgraded to a "storage engine," meaning that it would, in fact, run on top of the decades-old NTFS file system. Then WinFS was stripped out of Windows Vista because the performance was so horrible.

7. The pain of migration. And why not Just stay with Windows Xp? At least all of my programs work. Think: what big advantage are you getting? Security? I don't know...with a good Firewall and anti-virus you're all set.


Why post this in the CPU section? Does it have any relevance to CPUs at all?

The answer is obviously no. So to put it politely, go away.
October 15, 2006 11:17:33 AM

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5. I do not have access to basic windows files. I am locked out of files like 'My Documents'. Microsoft has decided that the average User is too stupid to allow access to certain Windows files. This is insulting. I am offended. I know security is an issue an all, but locking a person out of certain files is Not the answer. The User is locked into a Roaming profile, thus they are disallowed access to certain Windows files.


I didn't know that. Is there no way to disable this "feature"?
I absolutely, definitively, want to have access to every, single file or bit in my system. Can't you give your user administrator, debug, ..... permissions to read/modify those files?

Even though I agree with you, there is no stopping Vista. It will come, period. First every new machine in the universe will be loaded with OEM Vista (and few can/will format and install XP). That builds critical mass. Then comes Vista only updates, Vista only applications. The upper part of the SMB market upgrades, and then you have the massive corporate upgrades. Finally Microsoft drops all updates to XP. It can have no redeeming quality at all, but still we are all going to use it in the end.
I, and my SMB clients, will not touch it before Vista SP1 (probably summer 2007). And only after it has been throughly cracked by hackers, so I can disable activation and any other DRM crap.
October 15, 2006 11:33:07 AM

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Why post this in the CPU section? Does it have any relevance to CPUs at all?The answer is obviously no. So to put it politely, go away.

While I agree that this tread is classified incorrectly, there is no reason to get so worked up about it. This also goes for "DaSickNinja" and others.
The Moderator has already promised to move the tread to its correct place, so let the discussion continue - I think it is a good and important one.
October 15, 2006 11:35:32 AM

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Windows Millinium in my opinion was a better operating system than Vista.

8O Oh no, please don't scare me, say you are joking :|
October 15, 2006 11:49:12 AM

Man I can't believe you guys... this almost EXACTLY the same thing that happened when XP was about to be released. Check out this thread: lots of mixed opinions, just like with Vista. I'm not a Windows fanboy or anything, but personally I do welcome a change from an OS thats over 5 years old. Let's get a few things straight here:

1. It requires more resources. Well, DUH! Your upgrading from something FIVE YEARS OLD. Did WinXP not require more resources than Win2K? Did Win95 not require more resources than DOS? Hello? You can't seriously expect to it to have a smaller footprint, can you?

2. This is still a beta. Let me repeat that: BETA. B-E-T-A. There is a virtually unanimous agreement between users that RC1/2 ran WAY faster than Beta 2. Who's to say that the same won't be true for the final release? And besides, if your fps in games is lower by 5 in Vista as opposed to XP, have you even considered what this might mean? You have a slightly inferior performance on a BETA OS running BETA drivers, while XP now has SP2 with drivers that have been refined for months and years. Don't make a comparison when all other factors are not equal.

3. Yeah, it's got annoying features, but if they can be disabled, who the hell cares?

4. I've been running Vista RC1/2 for the past 6 weeks as the ONLY OS on my system. I've had a grand total of 2 system crashes, and the only major problem is that the display driver sometimes crashes for a few seconds. For me, this is definitely promising.

5. I guarantee that all of you will be running Vista within a year from now.

Final word: like I have emphasized above, THIS IS A BETA. Don't judge Vista until it's finally released. After that, whine all you want until you make the switch.
October 15, 2006 11:51:41 AM

I cant speak for everyone here but its not becuase its beta its because it doesnt offer a "upgrade" that i can see that i find usefull unlike moving frmo 9x/2k to XP.
October 15, 2006 1:52:43 PM

reported
October 15, 2006 1:56:33 PM

Good work mcgruff, considering Jake already advised that a Vista RC thread will be created this weekend and moved when that happens... :mrgreen:
October 15, 2006 2:04:44 PM

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Why post this in the CPU section? Does it have any relevance to CPUs at all?The answer is obviously no. So to put it politely, go away.

While I agree that this tread is classified incorrectly, there is no reason to get so worked up about it. This also goes for "DaSickNinja" and others.
The Moderator has already promised to move the tread to its correct place, so let the discussion continue - I think it is a good and important one.

I agree that it is a decent discussion, it just irrititates me that we (members of the forum) have been saying for the last few months that it would be greatly appreciated if topics could be posted in the correct section, not just the section that will draw it the greatest publicity.

Sorry for the irritated tone however.
October 15, 2006 2:05:43 PM

I'm not complaining about the topic being in the wrong forum. I don't really care about that. What I am complaining about is a ranting, bullying response to a perfectly legitimate subject for discussion.
October 15, 2006 2:12:05 PM

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I actualy need a reason to use it since i see no reason to use it.


word.
October 15, 2006 2:21:59 PM

Reasons to Migrate to Windows VISTA:

1. DX10 VPU's (R600/G80).

2. Crysis

3. Alan Wake

4. Unreal 3/UT 2007

5. Quad Core Gaming

6. GPGPU's

Seriously.. why the hell not?
October 15, 2006 2:37:06 PM

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Sorry for the irritated tone however.


Everybody can have a bad day, and your post certainly wasn't the worst. I don't think "starwhite" posted in the wrong forum to get attention - it was his very first post on TG Forumz, so instead of this huge swarm of angry hornets, he should have been welcomed (wonder if he ever dares to come back), and given the friendly suggestion to see under which topic he posts in the future.... :D 
October 15, 2006 2:48:48 PM

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3lfk1ng: Ok, maybe you did not read my original post. If anyone, I do not care what your PC hardware is: has chosen to activate the 'Aero' look windows will pop up a ballon informing you that it is switching to 'Basic Windows style'. I find this annoying. I suppose some people might not.
RC2 ran fine on My Dual 3.4 GHz Xeon, 2 Gigs on DDR2 RAM, 512 MB Video card. Its the overall design that is poor. Again, I do not believe you read my original post. And if you did....well, I assure you I am not a 'Nob'. I do computer work for a living, for over 20 years....Windows Millinium in my opinion was a better operating system than Vista.


So what is your answer for those of us who want a 64 bit OS? Do we start using Win XP64 Pro? That had the makings of a good OS, but Microsoft pretty well pulled the plug on it and doesn't offer much in the way of support. And for those who want DX10, well Vista is the only game in town. Wish it was avialable with XP64 Pro, but it isn't, possibly because Microhard is afraid that if it was, people would buy that instead. And XP64 Pro is cheap compared to Vista.

Unfortunately, unless people are willing to move to Apple with its lack of software, or Linux with all its complexity, we're going to be stuck with Vista whether we like it or not.
October 15, 2006 2:49:43 PM

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Reasons to Migrate to Windows VISTA:

1. DX10 VPU's (R600/G80).

2. Crysis

3. Alan Wake

4. Unreal 3/UT 2007

5. Quad Core Gaming

6. GPGPU's

Seriously.. why the hell not?


Word.
October 15, 2006 3:13:30 PM

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3. Yeah, it's got annoying features, but if they can be disabled, who the hell cares?

+1
I'm tired to head all those people complaining about the aero glass....switch to the classic!

And for the price:
Home basic(At the full version) has the same price as the xp home
Business has the the same price as xp pro...

And the ultimate just don't have an equivalent in the whole windows family...normal that it's expensive.

And if it's a litte bit buggy: It's a RC.....

And then....why don't you use linux?
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