computer gurus please help! just dont know what to do! 8(

actually it is hot in my room dunno how much that matters but cpu is pushin 55c under load now maybe it is that still.

You know, I have teh exact same problem, I'm wondering what it is too. If you play a video clip using wmp, after a while it will get glitchy and the only way to fix it is to restart the computer or change the resolution/frequency if I can actually see a screen before it completely dies. I'm about to buy a new monitor and first will try out an older monitor to see if that's an issue or if it's the gfx card, because I know it's not processor since that was at a cool 32c when mine crashed the last time

interesting hmmm just really annoying. I'm runnin 1920x1200 dell 2407. vcard gpu runnin between low-high 50s in the green so hmmm.

If it keeps up may go to the duo 2's heard they run alot cooler but I really really hate to buy new cpu/board run the asus p5n32-sli deluxe and would hate for it to still do it or somethin crazy lol. that would suck 8( any suggestions/comments would be great


edit: at idle temps are...

cpu 41c
mb 30c
hd 29c
vcard gpu 52c

under load mb stays same, vcard goes up a lil and processor hits up to 55c.

But I don't see how this could be a cpu thing, because I have the same issue, but it only does it in certain media players, flash works fine, but wmp doesn't and my cpu never even goes above 40c unless if I don't keep track of the temps

ya true cause ive seen my do it at only like 44c before, hell im to the point of wondering if its a virus or somethin lol.. so wierd. wish I had extra parts to try random things like video card swappin etc. you could be right maybe not processor not sure 8(. was also wondering if psu is sufficient but surely it is with only one vcard/HD. argggg just hate to dump even more money into it when could be somethin else.


edit: u know come to think of it the first time I had it happen was when I was watchin a new video I dl'd and think I updated like my xvid codec but games have nothing to do with that so hmmm I may lose all my media drivers etc.

I'm going to try a new monitor and see what results I get, because I lknow it's not a virus because I did a clean install after a reformat and it didn't do me any good, unless if I got the virus that fast. My guess is it's possibly our psus or most likely the monitor, mine is an ancient one that I bought for $5 so I'm not surprised it's dieing

could it be the new video/audio codecs I put on it maybe.


edit: ah good to hear youve tried formatting cause I considered that...


oh but if u wiped HD u didnt have new codecs etc. hmmm geez.

Exactly, it's crazy isn't it. I tired a different monitor, but it's only compatible with a hp video card and doesn't work on my setup, so I can' quite yet cross that off my list, but I'm trying to determine whether it's the gfx card or the monitor

I can't say it couldnt be monitor because it has only started doing it since my new bigger monitor but ya maybe gfx card... ive tried new drivers and then back to stock cd ones and didnt help 8( guess we can just keep comparing notes lol 8(

Yup, that would be the way to do it, once we have eliminated all the possibilities, then we'll make a purchase of either a new monitor or gfx card

kinda wierd runnin game in window mode and when I click game as current application temps jump up alot... 61c gpu is still in green but wonder if thats bad? other pic is when game is clicked off of main app but still running but wierd how much the temp changes cause its still running...

http://img406.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picgamemainapp...

http://img487.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picwindowsmain...


maybe not temps but figured id check/pic them.

running game window mode and not as currently active window with temps low see if itll stay running... not sure if this proves anythin but least ill know if it runs with temps down? i guess... lol just out of things to do atm 8(

That's kinda hot, but what happens to me is black bars will appear and the screen will resize itself or it will go completely black, if I had a digital camera I'd post pics of it. But the thing I'm more worried about is your cpu temps, speedfan showed a fire symbol next to it meaning it's pretty high up there

ya very true.

Just hold in tight, I'm going to try a new monitor and gfx card soon to find out what it is

cool

I'm pretty much gonna go to sleep soon since I have a big day ahead of me tomorrow, but if you could test out a different monitor or gfx card for me, that would be nice

ok well it must not be cpu temps cause it just did it sittin on idle at 43cpu with only temp program running.

What tbe OP is experiencing & probably tacos, is either temp running too high on gfx cards( you guys wouldnt be watching pron by any chance would you?????   ) or an issue with video card memory, do you guys get this playing gfx intensive games like FEAR/oblivion?

I would suggest running ATITool( works for nvidia too ) and leave the spinning 3d cube test running for an hour, if that passes use VLC instead of windows media player( which is crap anyway ).

Tacos if you get that 24@ youll need VLC anyway cos DVDs look truely terrible( lego blocks ), VLC allows you to apply AA n stuff and the image is fantastic

ya originally it was just videos/games but its done it just sittn in windows few times. but ya mostly when those going.

also sometimes it does it and i just restart it instantly itll do it in the bios/loading screen too glitchy kinda carry over not jsut in windows if that makes sense.

Ditch the WiMP. Remove all of the other codec packs, they can easily screw up what you are doing.

My setup

programs:
WMP11
VLC Player
Media Player Classic

codecs:
Real Alternative
Divx 6.2

This wont cause any conflicts and will play all codecs. Try this and see if it gets better.

Check your monitor cable. Ive heard that VGA can get interference and be disrupted. Try new monitor cables.

It could be your PSU, but not likely. Your CPU temps are high, try downclocking the CPU to lower the temps. See if it still happens then?

The mission here is isolation

interesting thanx alot for info will try them all.

Ever since I built this PC, WMP is a piece of crap. If I try to use it while Folding@Home is running it will reboot the PC (I have the automatically reboot on errors turned OFF). Or it runs crappy till the point the PC needs to be rebooted. Other media players work fine, but I don't like them as much.

Maybe WMP doesn't like C2D's or something.

its your gfx card either overheating or the mem in it is fubar, run that ati tool and the artifact tester

This kind of resembles a problem that I was having with my 3rd puter. The fan died in the psu, at that time my system was downstairs with his and I could smell overheated electronics. My 3rd puter was acting just like what you describe. I followed the smell to his psu replaced the fan in the psu and it worked good after that. Wait there is more to this. There is a protection in nvidias video card's bios for heat and overvolts protection. If the vcard is too hot or not getting proper volts the vcard will clock the volts down to the next lower to save the vcard from damage. Disable all power saving features, if helps, flash the video cards bios, change the volts reduction to the higher default I had 3 nvidias video cards that I flashed just for this reason. The volt reduction caused similar problems as you describe.

checked cabled and unplugged my ps2 that i also had plugged to my dell 2407 monitor and thought was goin ok ran quake for quite awahile then asherons call... but i switched from games to windows few times and once when i switched to game it freaked out for sec then was ok. also did it earlier when i cntrl alt del to check processes... so both times did it when refreshing things? hmmm ill keep trying rest of things suggested.


btw cant find where to disable that power saving stuff it in nvidia controls or actual computer bios sorry if dumb question hehe.


edit: and if that works whats how to flash vcard? errr sorry for being a noob.

no wonder couldnt find it... buddy says his is under manage 3d settings in nvidia control panel but i dont have it on my list at all... wierd? maybe diff software/drivers or hmmm



heres settings/defaults... if matters

anisotropc filtering - application-controlled
anisotropic mip filter optimization - off
anisotropic sample optimization - on
antialiasing settings - application controlled
conformant texture clamp - use hardware
extension limit - off
force minimaps - none
gama correct antialiasing - off
hardware acceleration - muliple display performance mode
negative LOD bias - allow
texture filtering - quality
transparecy antialiasing - off
trilinear optimization - on
triple buffering - off
vertical sync - use the 3d application setting

vcard is asus 7900 gt top 256 meg ( one that comes overclocked i believe stock prolly not a good thing lol )

dunno if that info helps but figured u may see somethin needs changed. thanks


edit: driver versions says uhhh..


10/22/2006

6.14.10.9371

that may be my stock drivers cause i tried new ones then went back when still did it... but maybe it would give more options? cant remem but ya anyhow rant off hehe.

friend of mine wonders if could be monitor ... dell 2407 ws.. but i got it months ago and it ran fine for quite awahile. but he says hes read probs with it but bleh i dunno anymore 8(

I really think that you're having a gfx problem, BUT it could be the PSU. Sorry if this is old info, but check your fan on the PSU to make sure its working and SMELL it.
In lieu of that, the GFX is the next logical solution to check in my tech breakdown.
If all else fails, you can reload XP, drivers, etc and see what happens. God, that sucks! I just had to do it yesterday because of all the crap that the interjoke bleeds into windows. Great job, Microsoft!
Sorry, I didnt mean to hijack your thread... now all you are going to get is flamers on Microsoft. :?

BTW: about WMP 11, why cant I get streaming video anymore????????

Well I tried gaming a bit on my monitor by downloading a halo trial and mine worked fine for a good 45minutes of gaming, though I didn't push it beyond that, so I don't know if it's a software thing, or if it's hardware at this point

I tired a complete reformat and clean install and it didn't make a difference for me, strange thing is only windows xp x64 seems to do this to me

ya i checked psu fan its going. what do you all think about monitor? not possible or? will keep trying things... soon the nxt step will be format even though i hate to lol.


edit: ya forgot tacos has formatted already... and wierd about the 64 things.

I'm going to try a different monitor, because I'm about to buy a new monitor, but if I find out it's not the monitor, I'll save my money and fix the problem first instead

But it seems kinda like a software thing at this point because gaming and other software work fine

ya true.

Well my theory just got shot out the door, as other video software just caused failuer on me. But as far as I know the only times it happens is when I'm watching a video, meaning that something that requires the monitor recieve lots of different signals and display a lot of flashing images, so either it's either the monitor or gpu, because I ran orthos for a few hours on my cpu and it passed

Theres no difference in the signal sent to the monitor, but have you tried VLC for example to test if its a problem with WMP, theres different hardware in GPU cards for video so that could be a problem, im still convinced its overheating, but of course i could be wrong  

I'm pretty sure it's not overheating for me at least, because my card is sitting at a cool 44c when I play videos on it, it gets hotter when I game and yet I don't get any problems (at least none yet) there, nor did I get problems before I attached the aftermarket cooler months ago and it idled at 61c. And no, it's not from modding the card because it was fine until just a few weeks ago, and I modded it back in september

Just throwing some ideas out:

1) In your video playback software, change the video acceleration or hardware acceleration. Depending on the card, full acceleration can make video stuttery.

2) To fully eliminate overheating theories, take off the side cover and point a floor fan into your case. That'll eliminate any latent heat buildup.

3) reseat vid card?

hi all i really dont know anything about these problems but what about the motherboard drivers the temp for Remote 3 in the pics was -123 and i dont really think that is right probably would wish it was imagine your OC if that was you CPU :twisted: .

I already reseated the card, no good, and I've modded my case for maximum airflow. But what I haven't done is taken a can of compressed air and blasting the dust out of the fx-900 strapped on the card, I think I'll try that, though something tells me it's not a heat issue

will be checking on that hardware accelerator though

I scanned the thread and I couldn't find any system specs.

I've had this problem and I localized it to PCI-e voltage settings. Of course I don't think this is configurable on most systems (it is on my uber DFI board lol). What are the specs for your PC? Have you changed any BIOS settings?

It won't be your monitor... ever.  

As for the poster with the F@H + WMP problem.... that is messed up. I've run WMP with a E4300 at 3.4GHz and an E6600 at 3.15GHz and had no resets. The key is vdroop and monitoring voltages and sometimes a proper format.

You want to hear a ridiculous story... on my E4300 (i think it was that C2D) CoreTemp used to crash and restart my computer everytime without fail until I reformatted my hard drive. Do not ask me to explain it... because I can't.

some cuetips on all fans and youll be sorted  , i attached my zalman at the wronf voltage and thus speed to my x850pro, caused no end of hangs/corruptions, if it hangs use windbg on the windows dmp file, it will tell you if its a card issue or not, i.e. crashing in the drivers

Not necessarily true, my monitor is over 10 years old and I bought it from a garage sale for $5, the owners said they bought it in 92, just to let you know how old mine is


But how do I make it test the dmp file, because this seems like a sure fire test

8O


download windbg( http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/devtools/debugging/defaul... )

Youll need to set windbg to use the symbols


open the latest .dmp file in
C:\WINDOWS\Minidump
you may want to check several to make sure its always crashing out in the same spot

then use
"!analyze -v" in the console to get a full output it will tell you what lib & thread it crashed in so you can see easily i its your gfx card or whatever

If its crashing in completely different windows files its a hardware problem like bad memory /CPU/mobo problem

Ugh, god, what assholes the people at microsoft are. It doesn't support my amd processor :x :x :x

Thing is, it techinically doesn't crash, just it first will change the screen size, then it will give me a no signal error or the frequency is too high error. Since changing the resolution or frequency fixes the problem temprorarily, my guess is that it could only be either a gfx or monitor error, because I don't see how anything else could deal with it since it only does this while playing a video, gaming for an hour straight didn't do anything to it which is weird, but as long as something works

Edit: Ahh, now I see, there's two seperate downloads for the different processors

Sorry for newbishness, but I don't exactly get how to use the program  

Aha, the plot thickens, i get you now, try using http://www.pagehosting.co.uk/rf/

If this works, I'll owe you the $370 for the monitor I wanted   .....And 3,000 tacos 8O

lol, tacos sounds good  , i havnt tried it myself as i dont have the need but it should work fine 8)