Leave Vista alone...

This isn't goona be supporting (trust me, love red hat and XP 64 too much) but why can't people leave MS alone with vista? Think about it - you've just spent good hard eraned money to produce a new piece of software (and time...the most important thing) and for everyone to slate your product is just wrong.

Will freely admit it, vista will suck bad but majority of users will purchase it. Why? Not sure, some could call it down to everyone knowing the MS family, some could say it's cause of the visuals, others will (don't laugh, this is serious) say because it has advanced security...Whatever the reason it be, there's no reason for evereyone to hate it...Now I hear (this is only speculation, won't know till it's seen) companies aren't gonna ship vista with new PC's...That must hurt MS bad.

Add a reply

Register or log in to remove.

Quote :

This isn't goona be supporting (trust me, love red hat and XP 64 too much) but why can't people leave MS alone with vista? Think about it - you've just spent good hard eraned money to produce a new piece of software (and time...the most important thing) and for everyone to slate your product is just wrong.

Will freely admit it, vista will suck bad but majority of users will purchase it. Why? Not sure, some could call it down to everyone knowing the MS family, some could say it's cause of the visuals, others will (don't laugh, this is serious) say because it has advanced security...Whatever the reason it be, there's no reason for evereyone to hate it...Now I hear (this is only speculation, won't know till it's seen) companies aren't gonna ship vista with new PC's...That must hurt MS bad.

I highly doubt Vista will "suck bad" it will simply go through the same growing pains every Windows OS (with maybe the exception of ME) has went through since Windows 1.0 was introduced. I remember sitting at my PC 5 years ago and reading the *exact* same anti-XP rhetoric. Now everyone who was berating XP then is praising it now and saying how poorly Vista is going to do.

(Note I'm not knocking your opinion just throwing my 2 cents in!)

I've played with Vista on and off since beta 1 and while I've repeatedly gone back to XP after a few days of each iteration it was no different when XP was in beta. I went back to W2K numerous times. Now XP has been out, patched to hell and gone, and is a very stable OS. (32 and 64bit iterations) I can't remember my last bluescreen that I didn't induce myself by some dumb tweak or setting.

As to the speculation of companies not shipping it, I can *guarantee* that every major PC manufacturer on release date, if not earlier, will have the option on every one of their PC's laptop to desktop, to pre-load vista instead of XP. If that doesn't happen I'll freely admit I was wrong in a thread entitled *I WAS WRONG!*.

Reply to boduke

I have tested alomost every version of this OS from LH to Vista. Many promised features were cut because the people responsible for developing these new, lofty features could not deliver. We are left with an OS that does not deliver. Unfortunately VISTA has no real advantage over XP. Win XP Pro has it all. Trust me. I will not be upgrading to Vista I decided. I have excellant security with XP. All my programs work. I do not care about the MAC like graphics. I could go on, but I won't. After alpha and beta testing for the last 5 years off and on I'm weary of it.

Reply to starwhite

There was a link somewhere that allegedly asus were not going to ship it's PC's with vista, they state that their wasn't a market for it (will have to find link and then post it)

Companies are having a real go at patchguard. You have to admire the innovation of humans trying to crack stuff. Wouldn't of thought any of the stuff people come up with...It's brilliant...You can slate argument, don't really mind, I call it random people syndrome...

Reply to Ponk

well im not sure but for some reason i was reading a newspaper and at the bottom the advertisement said (company name) GET A FREE VISTA UPGRADE FOR YOUR COMPUTER NOW.

so i think they are putting it into computers

Reply to JunnYeen

Quote :

This isn't goona be supporting (trust me, love red hat and XP 64 too much) but why can't people leave MS alone with vista? Think about it - you've just spent good hard eraned money to produce a new piece of software (and time...the most important thing) and for everyone to slate your product is just wrong.

Will freely admit it, vista will suck bad but majority of users will purchase it. Why? Not sure, some could call it down to everyone knowing the MS family, some could say it's cause of the visuals, others will (don't laugh, this is serious) say because it has advanced security...Whatever the reason it be, there's no reason for evereyone to hate it...Now I hear (this is only speculation, won't know till it's seen) companies aren't gonna ship vista with new PC's...That must hurt MS bad.

I highly doubt Vista will "suck bad" it will simply go through the same growing pains every Windows OS (with maybe the exception of ME) has went through since Windows 1.0 was introduced. I remember sitting at my PC 5 years ago and reading the *exact* same anti-XP rhetoric. Now everyone who was berating XP then is praising it now and saying how poorly Vista is going to do.

(Note I'm not knocking your opinion just throwing my 2 cents in!)

I've played with Vista on and off since beta 1 and while I've repeatedly gone back to XP after a few days of each iteration it was no different when XP was in beta. I went back to W2K numerous times. Now XP has been out, patched to hell and gone, and is a very stable OS. (32 and 64bit iterations) I can't remember my last bluescreen that I didn't induce myself by some dumb tweak or setting.

As to the speculation of companies not shipping it, I can *guarantee* that every major PC manufacturer on release date, if not earlier, will have the option on every one of their PC's laptop to desktop, to pre-load vista instead of XP. If that doesn't happen I'll freely admit I was wrong in a thread entitled *I WAS WRONG!*.

Am I the only person who thinks an OS shouldn't have to go through growing pains???? A company like Microsoft has a vast amount of experiance, why can they never seem to get it right without service packs fixing what should have been standard???? Maybe if they did that we wouldn't have the same knee-jerk reaction we get to all their new OSs.

Sort yourself out MS!!

Reply to still_life

Every OS goes through growing pains. The MAC is so highly touted, but how many flavors of the last MAC OS did they pump out ? What version are they up to now ? Linux never changes ?

I don't know that I would describe what some of the Windows flavors have went through as "growing pains". Like in the case of windows 95, it was really the user going through the growing pains, not the OS. Vista is making alot of changes in alot of places, so regardless of how good or bad the OS is, there will be some major user growing pains.

I last played with Vista RC 1 and wasn't too thrilled with the results. Programs like PCanywhere in which I use fo rwork, didn't work. The IE& browser doesn't work with our Time entry software, as well as Norton Anti-virus Corp Edition v10.1 isn't supported (nor does it work). So just from a Corporate standpoint, it's going to have some growing pains.

Is it going to be worth all the new features and secutiry, really on time will tell. But thus far it was more trouble then it was worth to play with to me. And most of my games ran 15-20% slower, though that could be partially to blame on the beta video drivers.

At any rate, in 3 years, most everyone will be running Vista and we'll be talking about the next OS that's coming and how we don't need it. Though it is funny how on the MAC side they seem to get all hyped up everytime a new version comes out.

Reply to mad_murdock

It's an "Apples and Oranges" comparison when comparing MacOS to Windows. (Sorry, couldn't resist the pun).

MacOS runs on a standarized platform. There isn't a great variety of different hardware running inside a Mac. Therefore, it is MUCH easier for Apple to design an OS that runs perfectly on all Mac computers.

With Windows, it's a different story. There are literally millions of hardware configurations in existance... and it is virtually impossible to address all of them without any bugs whatsoever. Windows runs great right out of the box for some people; others must struggle with drivers / updates to get their machines running perfectly.

Let's face it... it's much easier to design an OS that is only going to be running on a very small variety of hardware compared to design one that has to run on every little piece of hardware under the sun.

Reply to Zoron

Quote :

With Windows, it's a different story. There are literally millions of hardware configurations in existance... and it is virtually impossible to address all of them without any bugs whatsoever. Windows runs great right out of the box for some people; others must struggle with drivers / updates to get their machines running perfectly.

Let's face it... it's much easier to design an OS that is only going to be running on a very small variety of hardware compared to design one that has to run on every little piece of hardware under the sun.

Zoron makes a valid point. How many users can say that their PC is the same as his next door neighbours? Very few and far in between. The only real similarity PC's have is mobo. CPU, RAM, HDD, peripheals, VPU. The differences between drivers, type, clock speed, RPM and everything else in between is huge. MS are trying to appeal to the mass market, the one's that have something different will have to tinker with it to get it running smoothly.

You also have to think about the more we demand something, the quicker they ship it, the worse it could become and the more we but it. If we stop buying faulty software they won't release it...

Reply to Ponk

Forum Windows Vista : Vista General Discussion - Leave Vista alone...

Please mind

Focus On

Leave Vista alone...

Forum Windows Vista : Vista General Discussion - Leave Vista alone...

Please mind