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January 1, 2005 4:20:29 PM

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I am looking to upgrade soon and I want a phone with bluetooth. I have
always used Nokia phones but I was wondering which is the best between the
Nokia 6230 and the Moto V551?

thanks

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Anonymous
January 1, 2005 4:20:30 PM

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On Sat, 1 Jan 2005 13:20:29 -0500, Dan <noone@none.com> wrote:

> I am looking to upgrade soon and I want a phone with bluetooth. I have
> always used Nokia phones but I was wondering which is the best between
> the
> Nokia 6230 and the Moto V551?
>
> thanks
>
>

I looked at both at the local store (rebadged from AT&T to Cingular) and
decided based on personal preference and the news groups to go with the
Motorola.

Things in the Moto favor was it was a flip phone, which I hoped would hold
up better in my pocket, and possibly the video in the future. Nokia's
points were a little thinner, maybe it would use some of my old Nokia
accessories like car chargers (I never researched to see if it changed),
and it has a faster Edge implementation. But I'm not sure I like how
Nokia has changed their look and feel over the last few years.

I would suggest, if you can stop in a store, to see which one you think
feels better to you.



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January 1, 2005 10:44:40 PM

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I was a Nokia owner for many years prior to purchasing the V551 in November
2004. A friend of mine purchased the V551 at the same time but returned it
and went back to his Nokia 6340i because of the lack of reception and
dropped calls with the V551. I've learned to tolerate the dropped calls ...
although they are a major inconvenience.

You'll have to decide what level of inconvenience is acceptable for you. I
have used the bluetooth with my V551 and it works fine.

___________________
Ann
Motorola V551
iPAQ 4355

"Dan" <noone@none.com> wrote in message
news:Mqadndags9h2dEvcRVn-pA@comcast.com...
>I am looking to upgrade soon and I want a phone with bluetooth. I have
> always used Nokia phones but I was wondering which is the best between the
> Nokia 6230 and the Moto V551?
>
> thanks
>
>
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Anonymous
January 2, 2005 1:54:32 AM

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"Dan" <noone@none.com> wrote in message
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|I am looking to upgrade soon and I want a phone with bluetooth. I have
| always used Nokia phones but I was wondering which is the best between the
| Nokia 6230 and the Moto V551?
|

I was just recently going to purchase the 6230. It was my preference between
the two. I prefer non-flip since I carry my phone in my pocket, not on a
holster, etc. The only concern I had about it was the small screen. I would
have liked it to have been a little bit bigger. The external memory staorage
on the 6230 is a VERY nice feature also if you might possibly utilize it.

That being said I would up with 2 v551 phones. I was going to go purchase
the 6230 and get my wife a new cheap freebie last tuesday (maybe wednesday?)
evening. A nice surprise I got in the mail that afternoon changed my mind
though. Cingular sent me a letter offering me the v551 for free, $18 upgrade
fee also waived, and a $20 bill credit on top of that. Having the small
pockets I have, I decided that offer was too good to refuse. I immediately
placed my order for 2 of them. Now my wife will actually have a decent phone
also.
Anonymous
January 2, 2005 1:55:31 AM

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"Hierophant" <nospam@duh.net> wrote in message
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|
| "Dan" <noone@none.com> wrote in message
| news:Mqadndags9h2dEvcRVn-pA@comcast.com...
||I am looking to upgrade soon and I want a phone with bluetooth. I have
|| always used Nokia phones but I was wondering which is the best between
the
|| Nokia 6230 and the Moto V551?
||
|
| I was just recently going to purchase the 6230. It was my preference
between
| the two. I prefer non-flip since I carry my phone in my pocket, not on a
| holster, etc. The only concern I had about it was the small screen. I
would
| have liked it to have been a little bit bigger. The external memory
staorage
| on the 6230 is a VERY nice feature also if you might possibly utilize it.
|
| That being said I would up with 2 v551 phones. I was going to go purchase
| the 6230 and get my wife a new cheap freebie last tuesday (maybe
wednesday?)
| evening. A nice surprise I got in the mail that afternoon changed my mind
| though. Cingular sent me a letter offering me the v551 for free, $18
upgrade
| fee also waived, and a $20 bill credit on top of that. Having the small
| pockets I have, I decided that offer was too good to refuse. I immediately
| placed my order for 2 of them. Now my wife will actually have a decent
phone
| also.
|

Also, FWIW, they are coming with the new 64k SIM cards also free of charge.
Anonymous
January 2, 2005 1:24:54 PM

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In <Mqadndags9h2dEvcRVn-pA@comcast.com> on Sat, 1 Jan 2005 13:20:29 -0500,
"Dan" <noone@none.com> wrote:

>I am looking to upgrade soon and I want a phone with bluetooth. I have
>always used Nokia phones but I was wondering which is the best between the
>Nokia 6230 and the Moto V551?

V551
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January 12, 2005 10:20:17 AM

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Hierophant Wrote:
> "Hierophant" <nospam@duh.net> wrote in message
> news:0eKBd.21374$6V1.21192@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> Also, FWIW, they are coming with the new 64k SIM cards also free of
> charge.
A friend and I just signed up with Cingular. She got the V551 because
she wanted the flip phone and I got the 6230 for the MP3 capability.

It happens we got the 64k SIM cards because they were out of the 32k's.
What good does it do us? I asked the guy at the store and he couldn't
tell me. Said they both had the same limits on the number of numbers
they could store.

Thanks,

-- Timothy


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Anonymous
January 13, 2005 1:40:51 AM

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"timbyrd" <timbyrd.1iqiiy@WiFi-Forum_dot_com> wrote in message
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>
> Hierophant Wrote:
>> "Hierophant" <nospam@duh.net> wrote in message
>> news:0eKBd.21374$6V1.21192@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>> Also, FWIW, they are coming with the new 64k SIM cards also free of
>> charge.
> A friend and I just signed up with Cingular. She got the V551 because
> she wanted the flip phone and I got the 6230 for the MP3 capability.
>
> It happens we got the 64k SIM cards because they were out of the 32k's.
> What good does it do us? I asked the guy at the store and he couldn't
> tell me. Said they both had the same limits on the number of numbers
> they could store.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -- Timothy
>
>
> --
> timbyrd
> brought to you by http://www.wifi-forum.com/
>

The 64K SIM's have more back end features like handling the switches and
tower hand off's better.
Anonymous
January 14, 2005 9:59:48 AM

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In <THhFd.10946$eb.9808@trndny01> on Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:40:51 GMT,
"wirelessjuan" <wirelessjuan2004@yahoo.com> wrote:

>"timbyrd" <timbyrd.1iqiiy@WiFi-Forum_dot_com> wrote in message
>news:timbyrd.1iqiiy@WiFi-Forum_dot_com...
>>
>> Hierophant Wrote:
>>> "Hierophant" <nospam@duh.net> wrote in message
>>> news:0eKBd.21374$6V1.21192@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>>> Also, FWIW, they are coming with the new 64k SIM cards also free of
>>> charge.
>> A friend and I just signed up with Cingular. She got the V551 because
>> she wanted the flip phone and I got the 6230 for the MP3 capability.
>>
>> It happens we got the 64k SIM cards because they were out of the 32k's.
>> What good does it do us? I asked the guy at the store and he couldn't
>> tell me. Said they both had the same limits on the number of numbers
>> they could store.

>The 64K SIM's have more back end features like handling the switches and
>tower hand off's better.

It actually appears that the only real benefit of the 64K SIM is to allow
Cingular to remotely "home" you on either blue (ATTWS network) or orange
(Cingular network).

--
Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular&gt;
Anonymous
January 16, 2005 10:42:58 PM

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"John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
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>
> In <THhFd.10946$eb.9808@trndny01> on Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:40:51 GMT,
> "wirelessjuan" <wirelessjuan2004@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >"timbyrd" <timbyrd.1iqiiy@WiFi-Forum_dot_com> wrote in message
> >news:timbyrd.1iqiiy@WiFi-Forum_dot_com...
> >>
> >> Hierophant Wrote:
> >>> "Hierophant" <nospam@duh.net> wrote in message
> >>> news:0eKBd.21374$6V1.21192@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> >>> Also, FWIW, they are coming with the new 64k SIM cards also free of
> >>> charge.
> >> A friend and I just signed up with Cingular. She got the V551 because
> >> she wanted the flip phone and I got the 6230 for the MP3 capability.
> >>
> >> It happens we got the 64k SIM cards because they were out of the 32k's.
> >> What good does it do us? I asked the guy at the store and he couldn't
> >> tell me. Said they both had the same limits on the number of numbers
> >> they could store.
>
> >The 64K SIM's have more back end features like handling the switches and
> >tower hand off's better.
>
> It actually appears that the only real benefit of the 64K SIM is to allow
> Cingular to remotely "home" you on either blue (ATTWS network) or orange
> (Cingular network).


You really should know what you are talking about before opening your chili
hole.

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Anonymous
January 18, 2005 9:47:11 AM

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In <350jikF4eiauhU1@individual.net> on Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:42:58 -0600,
"Shaolin Superfly" <shaolinsuperfly@yinyang.com> wrote:

>"John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
>news:E5KFd.1814$m31.21206@typhoon.sonic.net...

>> It actually appears that the only real benefit of the 64K SIM is to allow
>> Cingular to remotely "home" you on either blue (ATTWS network) or orange
>> (Cingular network).
>
>You really should know what you are talking about before opening your chili
>hole.

I suggest you take your own advice.

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John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular&gt;
Anonymous
January 24, 2005 11:23:43 AM

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is there any way to get around from being homed onto the cingular network? There are two towers in my vicinity on cingular the other ATT my new sees them as both cingular (also turning off my operator options on my 3220 nokia). The cingular tower is about 300 yards away from my home the other is about a mile. My phone will toggle on both towers, based on my reception I see from time to time. When I was ATT I had operator options on my phone. Can do something to the sim to get these options.

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Anonymous
January 26, 2005 11:50:48 PM

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In <0d18affe1222444598c4cce802182bf3@CellPhoneKB.com> on Mon, 24 Jan 2005
08:23:43 GMT, "C Q via CellPhoneKB.com" <forum@CellPhoneKB.com> wrote:

>is there any way to get around from being homed onto the cingular network? There are two towers in my vicinity on cingular the other ATT my new sees them as both cingular (also turning off my operator options on my 3220 nokia). The cingular tower is about 300 yards away from my home the other is about a mile. My phone will toggle on both towers, based on my reception I see from time to time. When I was ATT I had operator options on my phone. Can do something to the sim to get these options.

As a Cingular (orange) subscriber, to be homed on ATTWS (blue), you need a new
phone that supports ENS, a 64K SIM, and then you can ask to be (manually)
homed on blue.

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Anonymous
February 1, 2005 2:50:27 AM

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John,

I have a Nokia 6230 with an 64K SIM. However I'm not sure ENS is working
properly. Signal is marginal in my house. When my friend brought his 6200
from ATT over, he had full signal. Do you have any suggestions about how to
tell if ENS is working? Thanks.


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> In <0d18affe1222444598c4cce802182bf3@CellPhoneKB.com> on Mon, 24 Jan 2005
> 08:23:43 GMT, "C Q via CellPhoneKB.com" <forum@CellPhoneKB.com> wrote:
>
>>is there any way to get around from being homed onto the cingular network?
>>There are two towers in my vicinity on cingular the other ATT my new sees
>>them as both cingular (also turning off my operator options on my 3220
>>nokia). The cingular tower is about 300 yards away from my home the other
>>is about a mile. My phone will toggle on both towers, based on my
>>reception I see from time to time. When I was ATT I had operator options
>>on my phone. Can do something to the sim to get these options.
>
> As a Cingular (orange) subscriber, to be homed on ATTWS (blue), you need a
> new
> phone that supports ENS, a 64K SIM, and then you can ask to be (manually)
> homed on blue.
>
> --
> Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
> John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular&gt;
Anonymous
February 1, 2005 12:39:04 PM

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In <6xGLd.1149$Tt.68@fed1read05> on Mon, 31 Jan 2005 23:50:27 -0800,
"Halogen8" <halogen8@gmail.com> wrote:

>"John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
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>> As a Cingular (orange) subscriber, to be homed on ATTWS (blue), you need a
>> new
>> phone that supports ENS, a 64K SIM, and then you can ask to be (manually)
>> homed on blue.

>I have a Nokia 6230 with an 64K SIM. However I'm not sure ENS is working
>properly. Signal is marginal in my house. When my friend brought his 6200
>from ATT over, he had full signal. Do you have any suggestions about how to
>tell if ENS is working? Thanks.

Automatic network selection by ENS doesn't seem to be working -- you have to
ask to be manually Homed on the network of your preference.

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Anonymous
February 1, 2005 10:36:47 PM

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"John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
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> In <6xGLd.1149$Tt.68@fed1read05> on Mon, 31 Jan 2005 23:50:27 -0800,
> "Halogen8" <halogen8@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>"John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
>>news:IoTJd.3815$m31.53312@typhoon.sonic.net...
>
>>> As a Cingular (orange) subscriber, to be homed on ATTWS (blue), you need
>>> a
>>> new
>>> phone that supports ENS, a 64K SIM, and then you can ask to be
>>> (manually)
>>> homed on blue.
>
>>I have a Nokia 6230 with an 64K SIM. However I'm not sure ENS is working
>>properly. Signal is marginal in my house. When my friend brought his
>>6200
>>from ATT over, he had full signal. Do you have any suggestions about how
>>to
>>tell if ENS is working? Thanks.
>
> Automatic network selection by ENS doesn't seem to be working -- you have
> to
> ask to be manually Homed on the network of your preference.

I just spent an hour on the phone with Cingular technical support. They
seem to know what they are talking about more than anyone else I have talked
to there. The lady I was speaking with gave me a range of ENS capable Nokia
6230's.

IMEI: 355032000000000-355032999999999

You may want to make sure any phone you buy is within that range.

John is also correct in saying ENS doesnt seem to be working. The lady told
me if I had an ENS phone, she could put me on either network, but then I
couldn't use the other. That doesnt fit how I consider ENS should work, and
therefore I concur that is is not working properly.
!