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What would be AMD's Equivalent to Intel's E4300 & E6300

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April 16, 2007 3:29:39 PM

since Dual core, i dont know how the CPU's pair up anymore.

BUt what would AMD's equivalent to this CPU's be?
April 16, 2007 3:37:45 PM

In performance? The 4200/4400+ for the E4300 and the 4600/4800+ for the E6300.

There are many AMD processcors undercutting their Intel counterparts in price at the moment, though.
April 16, 2007 3:38:29 PM

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since Dual core, i dont know how the CPU's pair up anymore.

BUt what would AMD's equivalent to this CPU's be?
E4300 trades blows with the x2 4200+ to the 4600+(beats the 5000+ in some stuff too). The E6300 isn't much faster....wins a few more benches against the 5000+.
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April 16, 2007 3:44:57 PM

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since Dual core, i dont know how the CPU's pair up anymore.

BUt what would AMD's equivalent to this CPU's be?


x2 4600+ for E6300
x2 4400+ for E4300
April 16, 2007 3:49:33 PM

so is it better to buy amd since their equivalents are cheaper?
April 16, 2007 3:54:35 PM

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so is it better to buy amd since their equivalents are cheaper?


Intel CPUs will receive a price cut very soon (22nd Apr). You may decide what to buy after that day. :wink:
April 16, 2007 3:59:57 PM

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so is it better to buy amd since their equivalents are cheaper?


Intel CPUs will receive a price cut very soon (22nd Apr). You may decide what to buy after that day. :wink:This is right. The only caveat is that, although the price-equivalent x2's are as cheap or cheaper than the similar performing Core2Duo, overclocking is the swing vote. If you don't want to overclock, then AMD will serve you well, but if you want a lot of extra unharnessed performance through overclocking.....Core2Duo is without equal. GL :) 
April 16, 2007 4:08:45 PM

what will be the prices of those 2 Intel Chips on April 22?
April 16, 2007 4:11:11 PM

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what will be the prices of those 2 Intel Chips on April 22?


E4300: $113
E6300 / E6320 (with 2MB more L2 cache): $163
April 16, 2007 4:15:40 PM

oh, wow.
Do you think they might be even cheaper at neweeg since they always have cpus cheaper there?
April 16, 2007 4:19:37 PM

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oh, wow.
Do you think they might be even cheaper at neweeg since they always have cpus cheaper there?
I doubt it. I expect they'll command a slight premium till the supply is steady (couple weeks). :wink:
April 16, 2007 4:35:37 PM

Those will most likely be newegg prices. The prices that are released are what you will see in online retailers. In store retailers are the ones that jack the prices up from these prospected numbers.

P.S. Get the E6420 and OC to 3.2ghz if its within your price range after the price shrink. ($183 or so I believe) it has 4mb of cache and an 8x multi...its a beautiful thing! lol

Best,

3Ball
April 16, 2007 4:46:14 PM

Quote:
since Dual core, i dont know how the CPU's pair up anymore.

BUt what would AMD's equivalent to this CPU's be?


x2 4600+ for E6300
x2 4400+ for E4300

I guess it depends on what the OP plans to do most of the time. For encoding mp3 for example the E6400 is about the same as the X2 4200+, so I guess the E6300 is similar to X2 4000+. For playing F.E.A.R. the E6400 wins by a few percentage points over X2 4200+ which makes me think E6300 would be about the same as X2 4200+, or again X2 4000+.

Too bad THG's CPU charts don't have the E6300.

http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.html?modelx=33&model1=433&model2=469&chart=181
http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.html?modelx=33&model1=433&model2=469&chart=170

Of course, with overclocking the E6300 can beat almost any AMD X2, but that's a different story...
April 16, 2007 5:08:41 PM

where do the opty's fall into place...say the 165?is it e6300 status?
April 16, 2007 5:28:20 PM

the first time i saw c2d lined against AMD counter parts, i was impressed (you may notice i got one - no longer do i have a 2800+ - its now a FEAR server) when THG first compared a C2D e6300 it managed to beat a FX62 - a inspeakable feat when compared to the pentium range.

However two thing to bare in mind - 1). aparently the e4300 is a billiant budget overclocker - like the PD805, and 2). the e6300 is slowly being phased out for the e6320 - i noticed at scan.com the price had been removed.

however until April 22, if your after cheap buget dual core - (as in celeron cheap) the 3 - 4000 range from AMD is unbeatable and not too slow.

Thanks for listing new egg prices it seem us brit are beeing completely ripped off grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
April 16, 2007 5:29:31 PM

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so is it better to buy amd since their equivalents are cheaper?


Intel CPUs will receive a price cut very soon (22nd Apr). You may decide what to buy after that day. :wink:This is right. The only caveat is that, although the price-equivalent x2's are as cheap or cheaper than the similar performing Core2Duo, overclocking is the swing vote. If you don't want to overclock, then AMD will serve you well, but if you want a lot of extra unharnessed performance through overclocking.....Core2Duo is without equal. GL :) 

Oh horsecrap. Still vying for poster of the year eh?
The new brisbane 1.9 3600+ is overclocking to 3ghz no problem so thats old news horsecrap. At $65, it cant be beat especially with a very inexpensive AM2 board. Your talking $130 cpu/mobo vs. C2D $270 cpu/mobo.First of all, x2 3600+ is tapped out ~3.1GHz. Many many E6300/E4300 will hit higher than that. Even if they only hit 3.0GHz, they'de still run circles around the 3600+ at ~3GHz. Lastly, the question was... which Intel CPU matches up with which AMD CPU.....nothing asked about mobo. Why can't you.........PLEASE...for all the forum members sake, learn to read? :x
April 16, 2007 6:10:56 PM

I don't mean the opty at stock,I mean the opty 165 oc'd and a e6300 oc'd in some real time benchies.Haveing an opty and not clocking it is like haveing a Vette and putting a 2 barrel on it,it jus dosen't happen(in most cases).I oc everything,my car,my pc,hell even my cat is oc'd(kat nip).So if anyone has ever owned both...let me know,thanx :D  .
April 16, 2007 7:07:35 PM

Thank you 1Tanker, now I dont have to say that. lol

Best,

3Ball
April 16, 2007 7:24:34 PM

It really depends on what you are primarily going to use your rig for, Ladic. Some apps benefit X2, some C2D. For gaming, there really isn't much point in spending large money on a processor. The graphics card is the single most important thing to look at if you want good framerates. It also depends on the game. For instance, if you plan on playing stalker, a $65 cpu will be more than enough, and there is about a 2 fps difference between it, and a $1000 cpu. What are you intending to do with your PC, or are you just curious?
April 16, 2007 7:30:42 PM

gaming and web surfing.
April 16, 2007 7:34:41 PM

Well then if it were me, i'd look at a cheap cpu and a good gfx card. There isn't anything you won't be able to play and you'll benefit more visually from a quality graphics card. What's your budget?
April 16, 2007 7:48:36 PM

about $600 for MoBo, CPU, RAM and Vid Card.

I was thinking a 8800gts, Asus Mobo, 2gig ram and X2 4400+
April 16, 2007 8:10:20 PM

Well that might be tough to do. Newegg is ridiculously slow for me right now for some reason, but you can find pretty good combo deals there. The problem is the vid card is probably going to run you around 300 itself. That only leaves 300 for RAM, CPU and motherboard. You might be able to make it work with an X2 3600 and 1GB of RAM, but it would still be pushing it i'm afraid. I think you're gonna either have to increase your budget a bit, or cut some costs. :lol: 
April 16, 2007 8:16:14 PM

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so is it better to buy amd since their equivalents are cheaper?


Intel CPUs will receive a price cut very soon (22nd Apr). You may decide what to buy after that day. :wink:This is right. The only caveat is that, although the price-equivalent x2's are as cheap or cheaper than the similar performing Core2Duo, overclocking is the swing vote. If you don't want to overclock, then AMD will serve you well, but if you want a lot of extra unharnessed performance through overclocking.....Core2Duo is without equal. GL :) 

Oh horsecrap. Still vying for poster of the year eh?
The new brisbane 1.9 3600+ is overclocking to 3ghz no problem so thats old news horsecrap. At $65, it cant be beat especially with a very inexpensive AM2 board. Your talking $130 cpu/mobo vs. C2D $270 cpu/mobo.First of all, x2 3600+ is tapped out ~3.1GHz. Many many E6300/E4300 will hit higher than that. Even if they only hit 3.0GHz, they'de still run circles around the 3600+ at ~3GHz. Lastly, the question was... which Intel CPU matches up with which AMD CPU.....nothing asked about mobo. Why can't you.........PLEASE...for all the forum members sake, learn to read? :x

wow I dont know what to say. When a $130 package yields nearly the same performance as a $270 package, your response is... learn to read? You need to learn to focus on what is relevant. I'm beginning to suspect that some people have simply watched too many intel commercials and heard that jingle too many times.
April 16, 2007 8:20:43 PM

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Well that might be tough to do. Newegg is ridiculously slow for me right now for some reason, but you can find pretty good combo deals there. The problem is the vid card is probably going to run you around 300 itself. That only leaves 300 for RAM, CPU and motherboard. You might be able to make it work with an X2 3600 and 1GB of RAM, but it would still be pushing it i'm afraid. I think you're gonna either have to increase your budget a bit, or cut some costs. :lol: 


Hold that thought, Ladic. Might be able to make it work afterall. BRB
April 16, 2007 8:45:36 PM

Quote:
Well that might be tough to do. Newegg is ridiculously slow for me right now for some reason, but you can find pretty good combo deals there. The problem is the vid card is probably going to run you around 300 itself. That only leaves 300 for RAM, CPU and motherboard. You might be able to make it work with an X2 3600 and 1GB of RAM, but it would still be pushing it i'm afraid. I think you're gonna either have to increase your budget a bit, or cut some costs. :lol: 


Hold that thought, Ladic. Might be able to make it work afterall. BRB

Wow, so nice to see somebody actually helping instead of getting into the flame war :lol: 

100% agreed about increasing the budget. If you spend only $300 on CPU/motherboard/RAM together then you'll have to make some very painful choices and you're not going to be happy in the long term. Maybe wait a bit and save some more cash? The prices will drop a bit too in the meantime. For example Intel promised to cut prices again in Q3 (July..September). Also, once AMD finally delivers its new R600 cards (in June, hopefully) there may be some good alternatives to the 8800 GTS for you, or a cheaper 8800 GTS.
April 16, 2007 8:49:43 PM

After mail in rebates, Ladic can actually pick up a X2 4800 and stay within his budget. Pretty amazing actually, I didn't think it was possible at first.


--$260- GTS 320 after rebate.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

--$75- ASUS 690G
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

--$120- 2GB OCZ after rebate (800mhz)
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?Product...

--$133- X2 4800 Brisbane
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

What power supply do you have currently? That's something you might need to look at as well.
April 16, 2007 9:47:37 PM

AWESOME, THANKS!
April 16, 2007 9:52:01 PM

This is what I had my eye on at first

mobo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E1681... ($99.99)

CPU
http://www.newegg.com/product/Product.asp?item=N82E1681... ($115)

Ram
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E1682... ($122)

Vid Card
http://www.newegg.com/product/Product.asp?item=N82E1681... ($259.99)

AND

I would have to reaise my budget by $50 to throw in a PSU, what ya think about this one?


PSU

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E1681... ($49.99)
April 16, 2007 10:12:38 PM

I wouldn't skimp on the power supply at all. If you could boost your budget another $50, this is a great PSU.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Or you could drop down to an X2 3600 and still only be $50 over your budget.
Other than that i'd say your other choices look pretty good! :) 

[edit]

Or even better, you can choose one of the PSU's recommended here to fit your budget. The one you chose is listed, but i'm not sure how much overhead it will leave you. Have a look.

http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showpost.php?p=15...
April 16, 2007 11:10:46 PM

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so is it better to buy amd since their equivalents are cheaper?


Intel CPUs will receive a price cut very soon (22nd Apr). You may decide what to buy after that day. :wink:This is right. The only caveat is that, although the price-equivalent x2's are as cheap or cheaper than the similar performing Core2Duo, overclocking is the swing vote. If you don't want to overclock, then AMD will serve you well, but if you want a lot of extra unharnessed performance through overclocking.....Core2Duo is without equal. GL :) 

Oh horsecrap. Still vying for poster of the year eh?
The new brisbane 1.9 3600+ is overclocking to 3ghz no problem so thats old news horsecrap. At $65, it cant be beat especially with a very inexpensive AM2 board. Your talking $130 cpu/mobo vs. C2D $270 cpu/mobo.First of all, x2 3600+ is tapped out ~3.1GHz. Many many E6300/E4300 will hit higher than that. Even if they only hit 3.0GHz, they'de still run circles around the 3600+ at ~3GHz. Lastly, the question was... which Intel CPU matches up with which AMD CPU.....nothing asked about mobo. Why can't you.........PLEASE...for all the forum members sake, learn to read? :x

While an OCed x2 3600+ brisbane is certainly a good value it is no match for an OCed C2D (any of them). Clock-for-clock the allendale and conroe cores are faster at most tasks and they will clock higher too. MrsBytch really could have pointed that out in a way that made brisbane and AMD look really good rather than a way that made themselves seem like an idiot... AMD first became popular when they were trailing Intel in performance and fighting a stigma of instability (that was mostly SiS's fault) due to good price/performance so in all seriousness: if you are on a budget and are willing to OC an AM2 x2 3600+ is worth considering. If you want something faster than that get a C2D (or wait for next generation to be released) but be prepared to pay a good chunk more.

Just because AMD lowered the price doesn't mean it made them any faster...
April 16, 2007 11:54:45 PM

Quote:
so is it better to buy amd since their equivalents are cheaper?


Intel CPUs will receive a price cut very soon (22nd Apr). You may decide what to buy after that day. :wink:This is right. The only caveat is that, although the price-equivalent x2's are as cheap or cheaper than the similar performing Core2Duo, overclocking is the swing vote. If you don't want to overclock, then AMD will serve you well, but if you want a lot of extra unharnessed performance through overclocking.....Core2Duo is without equal. GL :) 

Oh horsecrap. Still vying for poster of the year eh?
The new brisbane 1.9 3600+ is overclocking to 3ghz no problem so thats old news horsecrap. At $65, it cant be beat especially with a very inexpensive AM2 board. Your talking $130 cpu/mobo vs. C2D $270 cpu/mobo.First of all, x2 3600+ is tapped out ~3.1GHz. Many many E6300/E4300 will hit higher than that. Even if they only hit 3.0GHz, they'de still run circles around the 3600+ at ~3GHz. Lastly, the question was... which Intel CPU matches up with which AMD CPU.....nothing asked about mobo. Why can't you.........PLEASE...for all the forum members sake, learn to read? :x

wow I dont know what to say. When a $130 package yields nearly the same performance as a $270 package, your response is... learn to read? You need to learn to focus on what is relevant. I'm beginning to suspect that some people have simply watched too many intel commercials and heard that jingle too many times.

LOL @ madmodmike and his 'bytchs' crying over people recommending Intel for overclocking. :lol: 

http://xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/dualcore-round...
http://xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/dualcore-round...








The only benchmark a 3GHz Brisbane 'yields nearly the same performance' are the GPU limited games. Talk about assrape in everything else... :lol: 
April 17, 2007 12:36:43 PM

So if I'm not interested in Oc'ing, its better that I buy an AMD chip?
April 17, 2007 5:21:36 PM

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So if I'm not interested in Oc'ing, its better that I buy an AMD chip?


If you're not OCing it's better if you buy a Dell xD

Ok, not always. But I couldn't help it.
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