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April 16, 2007 6:02:16 PM

WoW: Recommended Specifications

Intel Pentium® IV 1.5 GHz or AMD XP 1500+ MHz
1024 MB RAM
64 MB 3D graphics card with Hardware Transform and Lighting, such as NVIDIA® GeForce™ FX 5700 class card or above
Broadband Internet connection
Two-button scroll-wheel mouse

What I have:

P4 2.8 Ghz (478 Socket)
512MB RAM
On board Intel 82865G Graphics Controller
http://www.intel.com/support/graphics/intel865g/sb/CS-0...

Any thoughts?

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April 16, 2007 6:43:36 PM

If that card was in stock then yes it would work great. The Intel onboard chip is crap, you'll be best off with a card. I recommend a 7600gs.
April 16, 2007 6:57:23 PM

I remember watching my buddy play on his old comp with a geforce 3?... uhh, I forgot, too long ago 8)
April 16, 2007 6:58:27 PM

From the look of the tech specs page you provided, your computer has neither AGP nor PCI-E. This really rules out any modern graphics card since you are restricted to (legacy) PCI. Even worse, the PCI slots are listed as "low profile" which means that you can't install a "normal" full sized PCI card. If you can find a low profile PCI card for relatively little money then you could go for it to at least be able to play WoW (it doesn't take THAT much to run it), but you might want want to look into building a cheap gaming rig in case you want to play any more demanding games.

-mcg
April 16, 2007 7:06:15 PM

You might want to try something like this.
Its a low profile GeForce FX5200. Not a very good card even in its day, but you could probably play WoW with settings turned down. I wouldn't recommend spending any more money to try to get a faster PCI card. Even $56 for this card is a lot more than its worth from a performance standpoint.

-mcg
April 16, 2007 7:18:27 PM

The General is right, it doesn't have agp. That sucks! I disagree with his suggestion though, nvidia's 5 series is crap. I suggest this, I think this will be the best that you can get for this system.
April 16, 2007 7:22:38 PM

MrCommunistGen - thanks. I really appreciate it. It seems like you know whats going on. Unfortunately I cannot open this machine and start picking at it. Its a work one, and I can offer to buy it. I'd like to buy it for the GF so I can get her into WoW. I dont want to buy it if it wont work for WoW.

I was trying to figure out the vcard situation. That card I suggested would be in conjunction with a new mobo, but the low profile card is something new to me, so that wont work either.

So you say this is just a plain PCI slot, and I need a low profile card to pop in there. Was the best option I have (top of the line card for that situation). I tried to confirm this by looking up the mobo, but I cannot find it anyway (some Chinese webpages).

April 16, 2007 7:26:29 PM

AdamBomb42 - excellent choice. That price point is too high though. If that is the best card, then I can start to work my way down from there. I wast looking at the $50-$90 range. At least I have a solid price point to work from. Thanks.
April 16, 2007 7:27:29 PM

AdamBomb42 - that card does look neat though. Any idea how it will perform in WoW specifically? What other games can I play with it.
April 16, 2007 7:28:32 PM

AdamBomb42 - if I get that card, will my PSU handle it??
April 16, 2007 7:30:43 PM

The chip info - can u guys confirm that this mobo will ran cards like those suggested?

April 16, 2007 7:37:57 PM

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AdamBomb42 - if I get that card, will my PSU handle it??

The PSU should handle it just fine, the 1300 chipset does not require much power. It should also handle WoW fine since WoW is not the most demanding game out there. If the 1300 is too much check out the 6200, it's a bit lacking in power but it will outperform the 5200.
April 16, 2007 7:47:02 PM

List of possible card choices for WoW:
-GeForce 5200
-GeForce 6200
-Radeon x1300

Please add to this list so I can pull up some WoW specific benchiez and post them here.
April 16, 2007 7:58:37 PM

Wont the PCI Bus speed also bottleneck the card?
April 16, 2007 8:06:27 PM

I would definitely recommend the 6200 that AdamBomb42 found. I didn't do that much looking around so the only reasonably priced card that I found was the 5200 :? I would probably not suggest the X1300 just because of how much it costs.
The PCI bus WILL bottleneck the card, but even with bottlenecks its better to have a faster card.
Just out of curiosity, how much would you have to pay to buy that computer from your workplace? If you include the price of something like an X1300 it might be cheaper to just build a cheap gaming rig. I haven't pieced one of those together in a while, but you could probably put one together for around $400 that would kick the tar out of your office rig.

-mcg
April 16, 2007 8:10:56 PM

Quote:
List of possible card choices for WoW:
-GeForce 5200
-GeForce 6200
-Radeon x1300

Please add to this list so I can pull up some WoW specific benchiez and post them here.


I really suggest you to strike the 5200 from your list, you will not be happy with it. The General a good point about the price of the 1300 though. I sure hope that your paying pennies for the computer, because it's not wirth much.
April 16, 2007 8:21:24 PM

I can get the PC for $50, not a big deal. I found this cool site, and as it stands now, this PC will NOT run WoW BC:

I guess it comes down to that card (the 6200) getting me over that hurdle. I really wonder which was is the best way to go.

How the heck can one build a new gaming PC for $400 (screen, keyboard, the whole works etc). That sounds like a stretch.

April 16, 2007 8:44:20 PM

OK... so the $400 was just for the box and not the KB, Monitor, etc. Unfortunately it wouldn't include an OS either. But if you can get your hands on a copy of Windows 2000 you could use that since it doesn't need to be activated like XP does and it should run MOST things that XP does. Then all you'd need is a KB, mouse, and monitor... most of which you can find for relatively cheap if you don't mind used.

Anyhow, here's what I came up with for building a relatively cheap NEW rig:
Asus M2V-MX $71.99
AMD Sempron 3400+ $49.55
2x512MB Corsair VS PC4200 $63.87
WD 160GB 7200RPM HD $60.88
Asus X1300 Pro $86.39
Cheap optical drive ~$20-30
Passable Case/PSU combo $70
Total: $432.68
All prices are from Pricegrabber.com, include tax and shipping, and assume a California shipping destination.

You could skimp a bit more by cutting the RAM down to a single 512MB stick which was $35.

My guess is that this is too much for what you're considdering, but it would be a much better (and certainly much more upgradeable) computer than the one you are looking into.

-mcg
April 16, 2007 8:59:35 PM

why not just install the game and try it? If you haven't already purchased it download the trial or buy the $1.99 14-day trial (youll want that disk anyways as I'm not sure if there's a DVD version of the game yet).
April 16, 2007 9:08:49 PM

The game requires Hardware Transform and Lighting which the 865G doesn't have.

-mcg
April 16, 2007 9:34:59 PM

Does the x1300 card you recommended have "Hardware Transform and Lighting". I couldnt find find anything like that on the web. I could disable the onboard graphics, and use the x1300, assuming it have HT&L.
April 16, 2007 10:21:11 PM

Quote:
You might want to try something like this.
Its a low profile GeForce FX5200. Not a very good card even in its day, but you could probably play WoW with settings turned down. I wouldn't recommend spending any more money to try to get a faster PCI card. Even $56 for this card is a lot more than its worth from a performance standpoint.

-mcg


I think the 850 XT he showed would do better than that. Any $50-60 with good newegg reviews will probably be fine for running WOW.
April 17, 2007 1:07:05 AM

the 5200 will run WoW, I am doing it now. It run ok, until you go into a town, then chop city. I think I am almost as low as one can go to play Wow.
Duron 1.6
512mb
5200
80gb HD
2 cd/dvds
17" LCD
April 17, 2007 4:06:00 AM

Except that the X850 XT wasn't in stock anymore and probably won't be since they no longer produce them.

-mcg
April 17, 2007 4:16:49 AM

@FishBoi Any "real" graphics card will have Hardware T&L(at least if its even vaguely current...), but to cut costs many integrated graphics "solutions" don't. That's starting to change now though.

@alcattle If I had to guess I'd say that you're running an AGP FX5200 which should perform better than a PCI one even if the cards are the same. Also the OP can get a 6200 (a much superior card) for about the same amount of money as a 5200.

-mcg
April 17, 2007 4:37:42 AM

Oh... The OP posted system requirements that said otherwise. I don't play WoW so I wouldn't know, but I'd be willing to bet a shiny nickel that performance wouldn't be up to par using the 865G.

-mcg
April 17, 2007 1:46:12 PM

Big difference between The Burning Crusade and WoW. The expansion requires more hardware. The intergrated graphics on this PC will not allow BC to even start up.

I'm really disappointed to hear that there isnt a cheap and all-in-one solution. I've played games before when it's "chop-city", and its so depressing its not even worth discussing (bought a laptop a couple of years back from Dell, and 6 months later it started chopping - 12 months later I was throwing the thing against the wall). Never again.

I'm going to try and post a thread here - A WoW PC FOR UNDER $500 or something in that line. Maybe if you guys are bored, we can try and put together a new post with some benchies. I've go to try and research which cards handle WoW and dont let the frames drop below 30.

Let me get back to you on this one. Thanks again for all your help.
April 17, 2007 2:43:14 PM

Quote:
They say it runs Sims 2 which is pretty 3D intensive.


You do realize that Intel's definition of "runs" might be slightly different than yours?
April 17, 2007 5:07:39 PM

Just for perspective, my roommate ran WoW with an integrated geforce2 as part of what I assume was one of the first gen nforce boards. He might have only had 256 ram too. The installer gave him a warning that he was below requirements, but let him install anyway. It was crappy, but he managed outside of cities at least. If he made the mistake of flying into ogrimmar, he just walked away for 5-10 minutes until the framerate smoothed out enough for him to actually be able to leave.
April 17, 2007 5:16:10 PM

I think to play it in any meaningful, enjoyable and acceptable sense you need a better spec PC than that.


Min recommended settings are are what it basically means is Intel think it will at least start on your PC with these specs.

It doesn't mean it will be worth playing.
April 17, 2007 5:30:24 PM

I can see it being passable on a G965 since I've played Guild Wars (similar idea) on a computer with G915 integrated graphics.

-mcg
April 17, 2007 10:35:14 PM

Quote:
the 5200 will run WoW, I am doing it now. It run ok, until you go into a town, then chop city. I think I am almost as low as one can go to play Wow.
Duron 1.6
512mb
5200
80gb HD
2 cd/dvds
17" LCD


I know it would work i was just wondering why you suggested that card over others in the price range.
April 18, 2007 7:36:28 AM

I would not suggest anybody to buy any of the crap I call and system, just stating that it does run. I got the card for free for some computer work I did. upgrade from a gx4
April 18, 2007 8:12:39 AM

Yes that card will run WOW just fine.However you will run into some chopiness as it only has 64 megz of ram.But if you have 2gigs of system ram then that will help somewhat.But on the serious side,just go buy a 7600gs for AGP or something similar.Then you can enable the eye candy and still get decent frame rates.Goodluck.

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April 18, 2007 9:42:06 AM

If you really want to get the right info, you need to know what board it is, I see MB with AGPx8 that also have the 865G chipset. So you might have PCI or maybe AGP.
April 18, 2007 1:28:00 PM

Thats the whole deal - I dont really know what board this is. I posted some CPU-Z screenshots, and all I know is that this PC is a HP DC5000 SFF. I'm not sure any of this helps though because if at the end of the day the game will be choppy at any point, its not really what I'm looking for. I'm checking the classifieds to see if I cant pick up a used system for $300 that will manage the game. Thanks again guys.
April 19, 2007 2:04:31 PM

Can anyone confirm this? This case looks slim. I cant see a 8800 fitting in here.

I just measured the height, and its about 3.5 inches. That seems small.
April 19, 2007 3:03:17 PM

Guys, plz help quick if you can. I may have found a PC for around $400, P4 2.8Ghz with an Evga 6800 GT, Asus P4Ce800-e Deluxe mobo, 2 sticks of corsair XMS PRO LED memory.

Will this maybe be a solution? (solution being WOW = NO chop city)

Thanks,

PS. If it will work, whats the appropriate price point?
April 19, 2007 4:24:47 PM

Quote:
Guys, plz help quick if you can. I may have found a PC for around $400, P4 2.8Ghz with an Evga 6800 GT, Asus P4Ce800-e Deluxe mobo, 2 sticks of corsair XMS PRO LED memory.

Will this maybe be a solution? (solution being WOW = NO chop city)

Thanks,

PS. If it will work, whats the appropriate price point?


You didn't say how much memory... assuming it's 1GB or more that'll cut through WoW like a hot knife through butter. Why are you looking for another system? The one in your signature sounds awesome?
April 19, 2007 6:02:30 PM

I really think that the 6200 I linked for you is your best option.
April 19, 2007 6:56:44 PM

I'd say that's a pretty good bargain. Certainly a cut above what you could get a new $400 system for when it comes to games.

-mcg
April 19, 2007 7:07:38 PM

Is that 2.8 a prescott or northwood?
April 19, 2007 7:16:12 PM

Either way it should be faster than any reasonable system using a 6200.

-mcg
April 19, 2007 7:21:54 PM

Quote:
Why are you looking for another system? The one in your signature sounds awesome?

Its so his GF can get into playing WoW. He mentioned it earlier, but it took me a second to find it.

-mcg
April 19, 2007 8:47:01 PM

Hey,

The guy contacted me and he said it handles WoW fine (drops to under 60fps in big cities), but other than that NP. So I think this machine will be fine. I called the GF, and she says I should rather wait till Sep and build her a new one (she'll be working then and we can afford a better setup, probably a quad CPU etc).

I'm really on the fence here. I love playing WoW and spend a lot of time on it. She is open to giving it a go, but by the time Sep comes, I would have probably finished that game and move on to others, at which point we would probably want to play some newer games together (Crysis etc).

Help me out here lads. Im sure you've been in my shoes at some stage. Shall I just wait?

Thanks again.

PS. Building a new PC is is not the worst idea ever, as I can pass on my x1900xt and get a shiny new DX10 model. Woohoo!
April 19, 2007 11:38:44 PM

Word, you never finish WoW, always a higher level or another goal. People had lvl 60 for years then had to get back in with the expansion.
If it works now, go for it, and in September, get a new parts or 5. :o 
!