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7600GS OR 9800XT

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April 17, 2007 8:08:52 AM

Which is better?

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April 17, 2007 8:42:04 AM

actually the 9xxx series was the first series of cards to support directX 9. obviously a 7600gs is newer and has higher clock speeds with newer technology so therefore it is better. i owned a 9800xt until about 6 months ago. played everything fine,i loved it. The 7600gs might be on par with maybe an x800pro??
April 17, 2007 9:14:51 AM

despite the 9800xt being the best card for its day, the 7600gs wins, due to more pipes, higher clocks and better memory.
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April 17, 2007 9:28:16 AM

mpilchfamily you didn't know that 9800 is DX9 card it's a shame that a forum master don't know that the first DX9 card was 9700 & 9800 series.
April 17, 2007 9:40:34 AM

i know that you could pick up a 9800xt for maybe $100 aus nd the 7600gs for maybe $240 aus but really there is no point as everyone here has said the 7600gs wins. lol mpilchfamily may not remember the good old days where ATI blitzed nvidia with the first dx9 cards. haha, its about to happen with dx10 now!
April 17, 2007 10:02:54 AM

Don't worry mpilchfamily, you pwn anyone here with your PSU knowledge. The 9200 was still directx 8.1. I had one coz I didn't know what I was buying. Was still like "I got a 128MB graphics card!!!". Man I was such a NOOB!
April 17, 2007 10:15:18 AM

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Don't worry mpilchfamily, you pwn anyone here with your PSU knowledge. The 9200 was still directx 8.1. I had one coz I didn't know what I was buying. Was still like "I got a 128MB graphics card!!!". Man I was such a NOOB!


hahaha I think a lot of us went through that stage

I replaced my ati 9200 card with what at that time i though sounded cool...a geforce 4 mx440....

thats right....i read geforce 4 and said hey..this is good. Little did i know how crap that card really is :roll: :lol:  :lol: 

good thing i managed to sell it soon after for the same price...close call :oops:  :oops: 
April 17, 2007 10:23:46 AM

I did it the other way around. Also had an Geforce 4 MX440 but it overheated and took the mobo with it as well.

If it was the TI the great but the DAMN MX!!! The box looked so cool and all the things written on the box sounded so cool when I didn't know anything back then...The one company where I was this weekend still sells FX5500's 8O
April 17, 2007 10:36:41 AM

Yeah, that was the rival of the 9200 but was DX9. I remember some of my friends mocking me coz they had "faster cards" because of DX9. I got a 5700 a while after that to make up for my mistake, then a 6600GT, then my 7600GS and yesterday finally switched over to PCI-E with my X1650PRO...
April 17, 2007 10:38:27 AM

i had an 8500, then uprgraded to a 9200, i thought the same as Dade_0182 lol, 128mb thats awesome. and then i wondered why my friends 9800pro was better even though they ahd the same amount of vram lol, super NOOB. but then i got a fx5200, what a piece of crap. palyed bf2 on lowest settings at 30frames.
April 17, 2007 10:48:24 AM

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Don't worry mpilchfamily, you pwn anyone here with your PSU knowledge. The 9200 was still directx 8.1. I had one coz I didn't know what I was buying. Was still like "I got a 128MB graphics card!!!". Man I was such a NOOB!


Heh, I went through that noob stage with the first computer that I bought. It had a Radeon 7200 installed on it. Since I didn't know beans about computers at the time, I actually thought that was a top notch card. About two weeks later, I installed Knights of the Old Republic. I couldn't figure out why the game played so poorly, until I looked at the system requirements on the box. Talk about feeling like a total fool...
April 17, 2007 10:51:36 AM

lol

9200 -> mx440 -> 9200 again -> 9800 pro -> 7800GS -> x1950 pro
April 17, 2007 10:54:29 AM

My friend is still stuck on the noob stage. He can't figure out why his 7300GT 512MB runs slower than my X1650PRO...His wife still has a 9200SE in. All she plays is sims2. She can't stop complaining about the thing running like a dog though...
April 17, 2007 10:58:18 AM

tell him to spend $50 and upgrade both pc's :roll:
a b U Graphics card
April 17, 2007 11:09:45 AM

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lol

9200 -> mx440 -> 9200 again -> 9800 pro -> 7800GS -> x1950 pro


Lets see if mine is worse:
8mb Voodoo Banshee>16mb Voodoo 2000 (EQ1 basher!)> 128mb 9600xt> 128mb 9800pro> 128mb x1800xt
April 17, 2007 11:11:23 AM

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lol

9200 -> mx440 -> 9200 again -> 9800 pro -> 7800GS -> x1950 pro


Lets see if mine is worse:
8mb Voodoo Banshee>16mb Voodoo 2000 (EQ1 basher!)> 128mb 9600xt> 128mb 9800pro> 128mb x1800xt

thyats not bad...atleast you didnt have to go back wards :lol:  :lol: 
April 17, 2007 11:13:30 AM

Does the 9800 have SM3.0?
April 17, 2007 11:13:38 AM

He's too stupid to try and talk sense into. He would rather buy his wife another 1GB of ram for her 2.4 celeron with the 9200 than to upgrade the card. According to him, ram is the most important thing for games...I'm a damn patient guy and even I can't get the facts through to him...
April 17, 2007 11:15:19 AM

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He's too stupid to try and talk sense into. He would rather buy his wife another 1GB of ram for her 2.4 celeron with the 9200 than to upgrade the card. According to him, ram is the most important thing for games...I'm a damn patient guy and even I can't get the facts through to him...


haha

point him to this forum :lol:  :lol: 

we'll knock some sense into him :lol:  :lol:  :twisted:
April 17, 2007 11:22:42 AM

The only internet he's got is through his cellphone via bluetooth. He's not a big reader though so I don't know if he'll come here even if I give him my wireless...I at least got him to buy a C2D E6300 and let me OC it but he couldn't use it for a week or two because he didn't have money because he had to buy 3GB of ram for his pc...
April 17, 2007 11:50:35 AM

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Does the 9800 have SM3.0?


no the 9800 pro doesnt have SM3.0


3 gigs of ram?? what for?? does he do alot of video editing and some major photoshoping???

Last time i checked 2 gigs was a good number for most things.
April 17, 2007 11:54:33 AM

He only plays games and runs good old xp pro. He has no antivirus or anything that might even take his rig past 1 gig of ram required...
April 17, 2007 11:57:08 AM

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mpilchfamily you didn't know that 9800 is DX9 card it's a shame that a forum master don't know that the first DX9 card was 9700 & 9800 series.

Show him some god damned respect. No one is perfect.
April 17, 2007 1:18:23 PM

I don't meant to disrespect him, his knowledge in psu is huge maybe he forgot maybe is not his area, i have huge respect for him.

I love how we all went out of topic!
April 17, 2007 1:29:18 PM

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I don't meant to disrespect him, his knowledge in psu is huge maybe he forgot maybe is not his area, i have huge respect for him.

I love how we all went out of topic!
The point was made, the 9800 is prehistoric. A great card for it's time but right now it's basically prehistoric so there's no problem with going off topic now is there?
April 17, 2007 1:36:02 PM

Hey i love going of topic
April 17, 2007 2:26:09 PM

get an 8600gts :D  :D  :D  :D 

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April 17, 2007 9:16:32 PM

or 8500 hmm (nice and cheap)
April 17, 2007 10:01:09 PM

Definetly the 7600GS but try and find one with GDDR3 memory rather than DDR2, they're much faster cards.
April 17, 2007 10:55:09 PM

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He only plays games and runs good old xp pro. He has no antivirus or anything that might even take his rig past 1 gig of ram required...


Show him task manager.
a b U Graphics card
April 18, 2007 3:56:43 AM

The 9800XT can still play any game except the stupid few PS3.0 only titles. It's about equal or a little behind the 6600GT, and the 7600GS is better than both of these.

BTW, Radeon 9500's, 9600's, 9700's, and 9800's are PS2.0 (DX9 B) cards like the X8xx series ATI cards. The 7600GS is a PS3.0 card. Better in both performance and features.
April 18, 2007 4:42:09 AM

I'm probably wrong I dont know a huge amount about anything really but there is no PCI-E 9800XT right?

You mean the AGP version's right? doens't matter either way the 7600GS is better.
April 18, 2007 4:43:51 AM

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BTW, Radeon 9500's, 9600's, 9700's, and 9800's are PS2.0 (DX9 B) cards like the X8xx series ATI cards. The 7600GS is a PS3.0 card. Better in both performance and features.
So I can only play my playstation 2 games on some cards and playstation 3 games on some other cards? :wink: :lol:  :lol:  :lol: 
April 18, 2007 6:41:15 AM

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BTW, Radeon 9500's, 9600's, 9700's, and 9800's are PS2.0 (DX9 B) cards like the X8xx series ATI cards. The 7600GS is a PS3.0 card. Better in both performance and features.
So I can only play my playstation 2 games on some cards and playstation 3 games on some other cards? :wink: :lol:  :lol:  :lol: 

Ummmmm?
April 18, 2007 6:52:00 AM

Since the topic has gone so gruesomely off TOPIC, i think i shall bring it back.

The 7600GS is a good card but personally i would look into buy an X1650XT AGP or 7600GT AGP as there prices are 120-150$-ish and will more likely last you a longer while and be able to handle games at High settings then 7600GS or god-forbid a 9800XT.

(My GFX cycle is best :roll: watch the transformation!)
MX440 AGP 64MB
5700LE 128MB
6600GT 256MB
X800XL 256MB
7900GT 256MB
8800GTS 640MB
8800GTX 768MB
(notice the ONE ATI card in there, it was moment of weakness, PLEASE FOR GIVE ME NVIDIA! :oops:  )
April 18, 2007 7:00:44 AM

yeah, I know, shader model 2 and 3 not playstation. I'm just joking around. Notice the smileys at the end. Why'd he call it PS though?
April 18, 2007 7:14:04 AM

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yeah, I know, shader model 2 and 3 not playstation. I'm just joking around. Notice the smileys at the end. Why'd he call it PS though?


PS. Stands for Pixel Shader.

Not for Playstation.....
April 18, 2007 7:26:18 AM

I know that PS stand for Pixel Shader. I was merely asking why he used PS and not Shader Model. The cards are commonly referred to as SHADER MODEL 2/3 not Pixel Shader...

You didn't read my last post did you?
April 18, 2007 7:45:07 AM

The 7600 has full dx9.0c support,whereas the 9800 only has 9.0 support.So hence,the 9800 does support dx9,just not 9.0c.So in other words,the 9800 does not fully support dx9.0c.The 7600 on the other hand does fully support dx9.0c and has all the latest shader,3D,and video support.The 9800xt was a hard hitter in its day,but it simply can't keep up with the latest and greatest.

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April 18, 2007 10:54:36 AM

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(My GFX cycle is best :roll: watch the transformation!)
MX440 AGP 64MB
5700LE 128MB
6600GT 256MB
X800XL 256MB
7900GT 256MB
8800GTS 640MB
8800GTX 768MB
(notice the ONE ATI card in there, it was moment of weakness, PLEASE FOR GIVE ME NVIDIA! :oops:  )


lool...and you had to go for the XL version... :p 

why's you change the 8800GTS to the GTX?? GTS not good enough?
April 18, 2007 11:03:56 AM

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lool...and you had to go for the XL version... :p 
Yeah, the Xtra Laggy version...
April 18, 2007 11:09:08 AM

ah i used to call it xtra light...but i think urs is better :lol: 
April 18, 2007 3:19:01 PM

As far as i remember the X800XL was a great value card (Well, apart from the silly 512mb version that noone bought)!

Never had one myself, i got a 6800GT when they first came out instead. I remember being in awe of it's power - i had upgraded from an fx5500!
April 19, 2007 4:37:32 AM

I like ATI but cant find a decent mid range card. All the X1600's and X1650's at the places where I buy is bloody DDR2. So I'll prolly get me a 7600GT next week or maybe the weekend still.

The X800XL itself wasn't a bad card at all, we were just commenting on the XL extention...
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