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After a few years my 9800pro has died. I'm needing a new graphics card.

My PSU is a Macron MPT-300, +12V rail is rated at 10A.

It ran the 9800pro fine.

The rest of my system is-

Athlon XP 2200+
1.25GB RAM PC2700
DVD drive
2 Hard drives
Network card
Floppy drive

If I need more power then I could disconnect one of my hard-drives no problem.

So what AGP card is the most powerful I could get for this system?

Don't bother mentioning getting a new PSU as I'm going to get a new system later in the year and this card is only needed so I can start gaming again.

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When my x800xl card died last week after 1,5 years I got it replaced under guarantee with an x1950pro card..
it works great in my xp2500+ barton system overclocked to xp3200+
nohickups, or anything so far..

I am happy as this holds me over to this fall when we know if I should go K10 agena or core2duo..

Reply to einheriar

I mean regarding my power supply, what's the best card I can get that will run ok.

Reply to clintwestmetal
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possibly another 9800 pro :?

im guessing any of the newer cards will have trouble getting the power requirements from a 10A 12v rail

dunno if the X800 will work, you'll have to google its power requirements.

Reply to blade85

How about this-

http://www.compusa.com/products/pr [...] Video_Card

On searching some sites they say that PSU has ~15A on the rail, so I dunno.

Reply to clintwestmetal

WOW. 200+ on a 6600GT!? Ha, no thanks. Just replace your powersupply and get a X1950pro. Replacing the powersupply is not a hassle whatsoever. Just the matter of unplugging and replugging in pins.

Reply to enforcerfx

I have a 420 W powersupply.. and with my setup including 2 dvd drives and 2 hd's i run 200 W peak at my electricity meter..

the box however states it requires a 450W powersupply with 30 amps on the 12 V rail

Reply to einheriar

An X1950pro would bottleneck on my system, look at the CPU!

Money is a factor here.

I should have quoted this 'A minimum 300W system power supply' from that 6600GT link.

I could get one for much cheaper- http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Pro [...] tID=150992

Reply to clintwestmetal
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You might be able to get away with this. It'd be a decent upgrade from your 9800pro, and consume about the same amount of power.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814121064

Reply to kaotao

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You might be able to get away with this. It'd be a decent upgrade from your 9800pro, and consume about the same amount of power.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814121064



You think I could run a 7600GS? :o

Reply to clintwestmetal
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Well, if you're not in the States, then newegg won't work. But you should look at getting something like a 7600GS since they don't consume too much power, and it'd be a bit of an upgrade as well.

Reply to kaotao
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You might be able to get away with this. It'd be a decent upgrade from your 9800pro, and consume about the same amount of power.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814121064



You think I could run a 7600GS? :o

Possibly. IMO I don't think it'll use more power than your 9800pro.

Reply to kaotao

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Well, if you're not in the States, then newegg won't work. But you should look at getting something like a 7600GS since they don't consume too much power, and it'd be a bit of an upgrade as well.


See this is what I was looking at http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?Quicklinx=45F2 but I'm sure it needs more power, although another opinion would be nice.

Reply to clintwestmetal
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You're below the recomened requirements, but someone please correct my if I'm wrong, if your 9800pro ran OK with your current PSU, it should be able to handle a 7600GS.

Reply to kaotao

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I have a 420 W powersupply.. and with my setup including 2 dvd drives and 2 hd's i run 200 W peak at my electricity meter..

the box however states it requires a 450W powersupply with 30 amps on the 12 V rail



the wattage of the powersupplies dont give a damn if the brand is not recognized, many companies mislead regarding this :|


I've seen a lot of 550 watts powersupplies who dont even pull more than 20 amps in the 12V , most of the amperage is tossed in the 5V or other rails, wich are.. kinda useless for todays systems...

so I agree with the first, GET a good power supply FIRST ...

Reply to tamalero

The power supply ain't changing, I'm short on money just now, that's why I'm asking what is the most powerful card that will run with the CURRENT PSU.

Reply to clintwestmetal
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I'd recommend the 7600GS as it only requires 27W vs 47W for the 9800 Pro. Technically a 7600GT would also work as it only requires 36W although it would probably be a bit of overkill (and costs more than the GS).

With the 7600GS you shouldn't have to change the PS and will also benefit from having SM 3.0 support.

Check the details here: Video Card Power Requirements.

Edit: If you get a 7600GS, try to get one with core=400MHz and memory=800MHz (effective) for max performance and not XFX or BFG as they only have 533MHz memory clocks. Another thing to check is the length of the warranty.

Reply to chogo
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You're below the recomened requirements, but someone please correct my if I'm wrong, if your 9800pro ran OK with your current PSU, it should be able to handle a 7600GS.



true true. perhaps as you should look for the passively cooled version, so that it doesnt have an extra fan to power up as well.

Reply to blade85

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You're below the recomened requirements, but someone please correct my if I'm wrong, if your 9800pro ran OK with your current PSU, it should be able to handle a 7600GS.



true true. perhaps as you should look for the passively cooled version, so that it doesnt have an extra fan to power up as well.
I was thinking that but I wouldn't say my case has that great airflow/cooling.


I've seen people's reviews on various sites (dabs, etc) complaining of overheating with them. I plan on playing games as well which are pretty graphics intensive and that will make it even hotter.

Reply to clintwestmetal
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As I understand you, you just need a card for a few month (or weeks) and you say you only want to be able to play. You don't say anything about fancy graphics or anything so here goes:

How about a GF6600 (not the GT) it should work in your system as it use less power than your old card.

Reply to PCD
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I agree with Mr. Blade that a passively cooled version would probably be your best bet, but you should still be ok with any 7600GS.

Reply to kaotao

Right ok I'll probably go with an XFX7600GS, I mean the worst that could happen is it won't power up correctly, in which case I could return to dabs, they're customer service is reputed to be excellent as well.

Thanks for all the advice.

Reply to clintwestmetal
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if your case isnt that well ventilated....just take off one side panel :roll: that should solve your cooling problems :P :lol:

make sure you clean the insides every other week though :lol: :lol:

Reply to blade85

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if your case isnt that well ventilated....just take off one side panel :roll: that should solve your cooling problems :P :lol:

make sure you clean the insides every other week though :lol: :lol:


I have done that although I've heard it actually disrupts the airflow and makes things worse.

Honestly not sure though.

Reply to clintwestmetal
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well when i open the side my cpu temps and gpu temps drop by 10 degrees :roll:

Reply to blade85

Jesus that's a huge drop, guess it can't do any harm anyway. :P

How much do you know about passive cooling cards? I keep seeing the odd review of one overheating while playing games. :?

Reply to clintwestmetal
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well you can check their reviews.

You can get over heating issues even with cards with fans, so as long as the card you get has a warrenty....there is not much to be worried about.

Reply to blade85

clintwestmetal check you PMs.

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