Who is the Beast : 7900GS Vs X1950 Pro

Hard-Core Gaming Beast is

  • Sapphire X1950 PRO

    Votes: 48 82.8%
  • XFX 7900GS Extreme

    Votes: 10 17.2%

  • Total voters
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blackberry

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Which one beats the other in overall Hard-Core gaming? - and last longer too !-

I was about to go with XFX 7900GS Extreme ,But some guys told me that there is this x1950 PRO that would rip 7900GS into half when it comes to hardcore gaming specially Oblivion :twisted:
When I saw some reviews, I found that X1950 Pro totally stunts but what makes me really worried is these overheating issues and game crashing...plus its only 2 yrs warranty instead of 7900 GS's lifetime warranty...(mean its bad?!)

So anyone have experience in this please help me!, Does x1950PRO really overheats??


## Sapphire X1950 PRO for 135$ (the rebate will end the day after tomorrow)

Core clock 580MHz
PixelPipelines 12(36 Pixel shader processor )
Memory Clock 1400MHz

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102061


## XFX 7900GS Extreme for 140 $

Core clock 525MHz
PixelPipelines 20
Memory Clock 1550MHz

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150202


What do you think? :)
 

blackberry

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Man all what you would expect :D

Oblivion
Splinter cell Double agent
FEAR
Battle Field 2
Rainbow Six Vegas
Half-Life 2
Just Cause
Company of Heroes
STALKER
C&C 3
and so on....

And Planning to play Up-coming games like Assassin's Creed and Crysis
 

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I have to believe its a game to game basis. Most people who argue this never had either. And the rest have only had one or the other. I had a 7900GS and it overclocked very well and my 3DMark06 score was pretty good. My monitor is only a 19" widescreen and native res is 1440x900. I can play most games pretty much maxed out and if I couldnt i'd drop down to 1280x720 and play maxed out. It cant do AA and HDR at the same time. It all depends on the games you play. From what I hear since you said Oblivion I'd go for the 1950.

The main reason why i upgraded was because i had the means and the oppurtunity at the time. The 7900GS was still more than capable of handling everything i threw at it.
 

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For most games, the X1950Pro is superior. I've had mine for awhile, although I'm CPU limited so I don't get to see it's full potential. I have the HIS IceQ version and it's a beast for such a cheap card.
 

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i see it this way: the 7900gs is a little faster in some games and overclocks way better. BUT, these games are also very playable at good settings with the x1950pro.

but as soon as you use shader-intensive games (like las vegas, double agent and oblivion) the 7900gs drops like a brick and the x1950pro keeps it going at a playable framerate (no speed-demon but good playable compared to the 7900gs at the same settings)

so: in alot of games the 7900gs (overclocked) is faster but the x1950pro is very close and more importantly: more future games- proof!

more and more shaders in games so get the x1950pro (512mb version is the best choice). just my 2 cents..........
 

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An overclocked 7900GS can keep up with an X1950Pro, but I wouldn't say it beats it. Add in any sort of shaders and eye candy, and the X1950Pro excels.
 

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Yes, at stock the ATI is superior, but when OCing, the 7900GS beats it in most games. These cards are OC monsters.

@ the OP- If you go with a 7900GS, remember to buy one with a stock 3rd party cooler like mine, or buy it yourself, because that core heats up nicely above 600Mhz
 

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For most games, the X1950Pro is superior. I've had mine for awhile, although I'm CPU limited so I don't get to see it's full potential. I have the HIS IceQ version and it's a beast for such a cheap card.

Yeah I know that but Didn't you suffer any OVERHEATING problems in this card??
 

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For most games, the X1950Pro is superior. I've had mine for awhile, although I'm CPU limited so I don't get to see it's full potential. I have the HIS IceQ version and it's a beast for such a cheap card.

Yeah I know that but Didn't you suffer any OVERHEATING problems in this card??
Not even close. Stays cool as a cucumber.
 

blackberry

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For most games, the X1950Pro is superior. I've had mine for awhile, although I'm CPU limited so I don't get to see it's full potential. I have the HIS IceQ version and it's a beast for such a cheap card.

Yeah I know that but Didn't you suffer any OVERHEATING problems in this card??
Not even close. Stays cool as a cucumber.

Great !!
But Can you explain whats up with this Sapphire , seems to have serious overheating problem from newegg reviews?
Check it up

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102061
 

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Oblivion -->Sapphire X1950 PRO (HDR+AA) :twisted:
Splinter cell Double agent -->Sapphire X1950 PRO
FEAR -->XFX 7900GS Extreme (F.E.A.R like nVIDIA more than ATI)
Battle Field 2 -->Sapphire X1950 PRO
Rainbow Six Vegas -->Sapphire X1950 PRO
Half-Life 2 -->Sapphire X1950 PRO
Just Cause -->Sapphire X1950 PRO (HDR+AA)
Company of Heroes -->XFX 7900GS Extreme (Same About Dawn Of War Series)
STALKER -->Sapphire X1950 PRO
C&C 3 -->Sapphire X1950 PRO
ALL Need For Speed Series -->Sapphire X1950 PRO
Test Drive Unlimited -->Sapphire X1950 PRO

Overall -->Sapphire X1950 PRO is the clear winner :trophy:
Damn...But i like the XFX 7900GS Extreme more than Sapphire X1950 PRO :tongue:
 

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For most games, the X1950Pro is superior. I've had mine for awhile, although I'm CPU limited so I don't get to see it's full potential. I have the HIS IceQ version and it's a beast for such a cheap card.

Yeah I know that but Didn't you suffer any OVERHEATING problems in this card??
Not even close. Stays cool as a cucumber.

Great !!
But Can you explain whats up with this Sapphire , seems to have serious overheating problem from newegg reviews?
Check it up

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102061
I can't really vouche for that card, since I don't own it, but if you're that concerned about overheating, just pay the extra $20 and get this card:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161062
 

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to be honest: my x1950pro did have trouble with overheating. seems like the first ones had some overheating problems with the voltage regulator, NOT the chip itself or the mem. i had an extra fan pointing at the vrm and all trouble was gone. just get one with decent cooling or be sure you have good airflow in your case and you`ll be fine.

i sold mine really fast (4 weeks) because i could get a good deal on a x1900xt 512 but the pro was a very nice card. about 25% faster as my 7800gt ( and that one was standard 10% overclocked!)

i guess with the current cards the vrm trouble is solved by adding a better heatsink on the vrm but i`m not sure. don`t forget by the way that there are a lot of people with no problems at all and when you google the 7900gs you`ll find lots of problems also......... people with good cards don`t complain......... :wink:
 

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to be honest: my x1950pro did have trouble with overheating. seems like the first ones had some overheating problems with the voltage regulator, NOT the chip itself or the mem. i had an extra fan pointing at the vrm and all trouble was gone. just get one with decent cooling or be sure you have good airflow in your case and you`ll be fine.

i sold mine really fast (4 weeks) because i could get a good deal on a x1900xt 512 but the pro was a very nice card. about 25% faster as my 7800gt ( and that one was standard 10% overclocked!)

i guess with the current cards the vrm trouble is solved by adding a better heatsink on the vrm but i`m not sure. don`t forget by the way that there are a lot of people with no problems at all and when you google the 7900gs you`ll find lots of problems also......... people with good cards don`t complain......... :wink:


So its true...What manufacturer would you recommend then?
 

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well i have a 7900GS in my rig with a VF-700 ACU i put on myself and i have to say I enjoy my 7900GS, its quite nice, and i like it. Huge step from my 6800GT at least it seemed that way.
 

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Its the stock cooler on the X1950 Pro that your URL points to.

I bought the 512MB, AGP version from Sapphire and stuck a Artic Cooling Xccelero X2 on it along with a heat spreader for the Voltage Regulator (now a part of the X2 package if it says its support X1950Pro - note though that you have to cut the regulator to fit the 512MB version of the card but it should fit the 256MB with no troubles).

At any rate, playing Oblivion at 1280/1024 (native res for my 19" monitor) I can max out most all settings with no trouble. With that cooler I have never broken 46C even when playing Oblivion or running the ATI Tray Tool artifact tester (so far I've been able to overclock the GPU to 620Mhz stability and with no artifacts. Haven't pushed it further or tried the memory yet).

So I'm very happy with my choice. Though I have to agree with the previous response - if you can, go for the X1950XT. It wasn't out when I bought my card (in AGP form).
 

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Its the stock cooler on the X1950 Pro that your URL points to.

I bought the 512MB, AGP version from Sapphire and stuck a Artic Cooling Xccelero X2 on it along with a heat spreader for the Voltage Regulator (now a part of the X2 package if it says its support X1950Pro - note though that you have to cut the regulator to fit the 512MB version of the card but it should fit the 256MB with no troubles).


** Sorry, that should read: cut the spreader, not the regulator!!
 

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Its the stock cooler on the X1950 Pro that your URL points to.

I bought the 512MB, AGP version from Sapphire and stuck a Artic Cooling Xccelero X2 on it along with a heat spreader for the Voltage Regulator (now a part of the X2 package if it says its support X1950Pro - note though that you have to cut the regulator to fit the 512MB version of the card but it should fit the 256MB with no troubles).

At any rate, playing Oblivion at 1280/1024 (native res for my 19" monitor) I can max out most all settings with no trouble. With that cooler I have never broken 46C even when playing Oblivion or running the ATI Tray Tool artifact tester (so far I've been able to overclock the GPU to 620Mhz stability and with no artifacts. Haven't pushed it further or tried the memory yet).

So I'm very happy with my choice. Though I have to agree with the previous response - if you can, go for the X1950XT. It wasn't out when I bought my card (in AGP form).


So you think I should get x1950 Pro plus this cooler and heat spreader?!
Are they available at newegg?
 

sdrac

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Probably can get it a Newegg but shop around to see where its cheapest.
And if you don't want the fuss of changing out the cooler and adding the spreader yourself, Ryokinshin's suggestion is a good one (though I have no experience with that card/cooler so I can't vouch for it).

By the way, make sure your PSU can handle the card. The 512MB version I have calls for a min of 450W with 30A on the 12V rail. Not sure what the draw is on the 256MB version but check it and make sure your PSU can handle it. If not, you either have to upgrade the PSU or choose a different card.