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It's the inquirer, but what if.....you buy graphic card and every thing is on it, like sound, game cpu, e.t.c. and is faster let say for example 40% than Nvidia + top CPU qx6800 on any CPU that you may come up with PCI express, simply because you did't buy just graphic card but complete console in PCI express slot. No more who is how much fps, but wich model of gpu did you buy. And for starters it comes from AMD, and hangs on until NVIDIA makes fast u turn.
Sometimes it seems to me like INTEL is very fast super charged car and AMD family car, but that family car knowes where is headed unlike super charged fast car that only zooms in one direction, than to turn and goes in another.

Just my second post i guess.

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http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=39042

It's the inquirer, but what if.....you buy graphic card and every thing is on it, like sound, game cpu, e.t.c. and is faster let say for example 40% than Nvidia + top CPU qx6800 on any CPU that you may come up with PCI express, simply because you did't buy just graphic card but complete console in PCI express slot. No more who is how much fps, but wich model of gpu did you buy. And for starters it comes from AMD, and hangs on until NVIDIA makes fast u turn.
Sometimes it seems to me like INTEL is very fast super charged car and AMD family car, but that family car knowes where is headed unlike super charged fast car that only zooms in one direction, than to turn and goes in another.

Just my second post i guess.



HUH?! That made little to no sense... :?

Reply to Criminal89

Quote :

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=39042

It's the inquirer, but what if.....you buy graphic card and every thing is on it, like sound, game cpu, e.t.c. and is faster let say for example 40% than Nvidia + top CPU qx6800 on any CPU that you may come up with PCI express, simply because you did't buy just graphic card but complete console in PCI express slot. No more who is how much fps, but wich model of gpu did you buy. And for starters it comes from AMD, and hangs on until NVIDIA makes fast u turn.
Sometimes it seems to me like INTEL is very fast super charged car and AMD family car, but that family car knowes where is headed unlike super charged fast car that only zooms in one direction, than to turn and goes in another.

Just my second post i guess.



Best post.



Evar.

Reply to ajfink

Quote :

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=39042

It's the inquirer, but what if.....you buy graphic card and every thing is on it, like sound, game cpu, e.t.c. and is faster let say for example 40% than Nvidia + top CPU qx6800 on any CPU that you may come up with PCI express, simply because you did't buy just graphic card but complete console in PCI express slot. No more who is how much fps, but wich model of gpu did you buy. And for starters it comes from AMD, and hangs on until NVIDIA makes fast u turn.
Sometimes it seems to me like INTEL is very fast super charged car and AMD family car, but that family car knowes where is headed unlike super charged fast car that only zooms in one direction, than to turn and goes in another.

Just my second post i guess.



Best post.



Evar.I wish there'd been some pics. :x

Reply to 1Tanker

Dude, did you type that up in your native language and then used a software translator to turn it into English?!

Reply to epsilon84

Quote :

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=39042

It's the inquirer, but what if.....you buy graphic card and every thing is on it, like sound, game cpu, e.t.c. and is faster let say for example 40% than Nvidia + top CPU qx6800 on any CPU that you may come up with PCI express, simply because you did't buy just graphic card but complete console in PCI express slot. No more who is how much fps, but wich model of gpu did you buy. And for starters it comes from AMD, and hangs on until NVIDIA makes fast u turn.
Sometimes it seems to me like INTEL is very fast super charged car and AMD family car, but that family car knowes where is headed unlike super charged fast car that only zooms in one direction, than to turn and goes in another.

Just my second post i guess.




Here is my translation:

You buy a new graphics card for your QX6800, and it features Sound, Physics, Graphics, etc processing units, and it runs 40% faster than a 880GTX + QX6800, because its a single slot solution for a wide spread selection of add-in cards. It gives ATi the advantage or nVidia until, nVidia can answer back. Intel is like a dragster, and AMD is like a mini van. The mini van has a set direction and destination and knows how to get there. The dragster only goes in one direction with raw power, and it only turns or changes direction when it runs out of space to move forward.

Reply to crazypyro

Thats about what I got out of it crazypyro! Its cool, but it is nothing that we didn't see coming. Well I suppose I didn't see the sound coming, but it makes sense to accommodate the HDMI the card is suppose to have, but the physics, plus GPU in one card seems to have been inevitable once ageia showed up and sparked some interest. Just my 2 cents!

Best,

3Ball

Reply to 3Ball

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I wish there'd been some pics. :x



LOL- they'd have been random, unfocused pictures with whatever he was centering on cut off at one side!

Reply to blueeyesm

the guy who wrote that has no clue about what he is talking about.

i know that is the inquirer but god damn that was bad.

Reply to strangestranger

Sorry, :oops:
It was realy awfull. Trying to type without spellcheck.

About the pictures, they would be more organized. I was working as a designer at the time.

Anyway I was thinking about allround GPU, so the CPU would no longer be messure for HIGH fps count on modern games.

Reply to Neso

Doesn't history repeat itself?

Way back when we all liked our separate sound cards and video cards... integrated stuff was the work of the devil... then integrated became the name of the game... motherboards had pretty much taken over the insides of our computer... and now we're all back to wanting our Sound Blaster X-Fis and our 8800 GTXs... I guess the next swing of the pendulum will have us going back to integrated. Is that really so shocking?

Reply to rodney_ws

Im thinking that the sound card is but a means to have sound run through the HDMI interface for anyone who may use this on a TV. I doubt this is meant to be used as a "high end" performance solution in the long run, but I could be wrong!

Best,

3Ball

Reply to 3Ball

you aint, from what i can tell from even the inq previous article's it aint a sound card more a simple chip designed to allow the pass through of audio signals while maintaing encryption.

nothing more nothing less. however, it will be a major thing in the low end 2xxx series cards i think.

Reply to strangestranger

OK, another shot.

Let say, you have Athlon64 3200 single core and you want 150fps in whatever game that makes you happy. You have to buy 8800 GTX.
But that's not good enough. You will have to buy Core 2 duo.
So the main market for highend GPU are the minority people who have top of the line CPU.

What if you make GPU that gives you constant frames per second on any CPU because all the math is going in that GPU. Than your market is anybody that can spend ~450USD and only that, no mater what CPU they have, as long as they have PCI EXPRESS slot.

Does it make any sense?

Reply to Neso

Quote :

OK, another shot.

Let say, you have Athlon64 3200 single core and you want 150fps in whatever game that makes you happy. You have to buy 8800 GTX.
But that's not good enough. You will have to buy Core 2 duo.
So the main market for highend GPU are the minority people who have top of the line CPU.

What if you make GPU that gives you constant frames per second on any CPU because all the math is going in that GPU. Than your market is anybody that can spend ~450USD and only that, no mater what CPU they have, as long as they have PCI EXPRESS slot.

Does it make any sense?


No.

Reply to rodney_ws

OK
i give up :(

Reply to Neso

here's the flaw

What if i don't want to spend the 1000 on that particular card.

what if i don't mind 1/2 the performance, and want to spend 1/2 the money.

what if i do need graphics solutions, but i'm talking about workplace enviroment where i don't need the sound and Pysichs calculations. Why should i pay that much extra just for the full blown thing?

PC's are designed the way they are today with the idea of keeping things module based. Add and remove individual components that would best suit the end use.

The onboard stuff we have today is usually the "lowest common denominator". stuff that most people need. But not the best of what they need.

It also gives people the chances to mixing and matching manufacturers for brand loyalty.

Upgradability would be greatly diminished too in your idea. if you bought the high end all in one card you talk about, and then 3 months later a newer bigger better graphics technology comes out. You'd have to completely replace the entire card and the entire cost would be respent once again. With the Module based systems of today you only have to replace the part that you need to replace instead of all or nothing.

Reply to mpasternak

Quote :

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=39042

It's the inquirer, but what if.....you buy graphic card and every thing is on it, like sound, game cpu, e.t.c. and is faster let say for example 40% than Nvidia + top CPU qx6800 on any CPU that you may come up with PCI express, simply because you did't buy just graphic card but complete console in PCI express slot. No more who is how much fps, but wich model of gpu did you buy. And for starters it comes from AMD, and hangs on until NVIDIA makes fast u turn.
Sometimes it seems to me like INTEL is very fast super charged car and AMD family car, but that family car knowes where is headed unlike super charged fast car that only zooms in one direction, than to turn and goes in another.

Just my second post i guess.


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Reply to Newf

I am thinking more in the line of GPGPU transition. Yes, you can mix and match today, but what is the point in taking some of the CPU functions and translating them on to GPU?
Now the sound is there too.
So how much is left for the cpu today??
There were slides for AMD FUSION project that showed diferent GPU+CPU configuration for diferent purpose.
If you are gamer, you don't need to pay 1000USD for CPU to justify ~450USD 8800GTX. You just buy GPU that i was thinking about for ~450USD and you are set.
I didn't say that you couldn't mix and match, but you could spend less for... gamer setup for example.

Reply to Neso

You will still need a cpu to run the V.90 modem...

Reply to Newf

and costs associated with it.

a modern video card alone for a high end gaming system is going to cost you 500 - 700. are you saying that you expect 1 card to include that. PLUS everything else?

you already basically have that

Motherboard. for the most part. EVerything you need is on that.

with the option to expand for greater performance.

your "what if" question doesnt really make sense as it's asking to re-invent the wheel so to speak

Reply to mpasternak

Quote :

I am thinking more in the line of GPGPU transition. Yes, you can mix and match today, but what is the point in taking some of the CPU functions and translating them on to GPU?
Now the sound is there too.
So how much is left for the cpu today??
There were slides for AMD FUSION project that showed diferent GPU+CPU configuration for diferent purpose.
If you are gamer, you don't need to pay 1000USD for CPU to justify ~450USD 8800GTX. You just buy GPU that i was thinking about for ~450USD and you are set.
I didn't say that you couldn't mix and match, but you could spend less for... gamer setup for example.


In a previous post you said you gave up... and here you go again. Don't dishonor yourself like that.

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