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Don't buy ram yet! Ram prices are going to drop BIG TIME!

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April 20, 2007 6:58:45 PM

I realize with the tempting G.skill 2GB kit for $109 shipped, it's hard to find a reason not to buy these fast dropping 2GB kits, but I have news for you, they're going to drop more.

This isn't a temporary price drop that'll sky rocket in summer. This is a permanent drop in price due to a lawsuit that revealed ram chip manufacturers to be price fixing.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/fn/4731559.html

"Il Ung Kim, a marketing vice president, is the sixth Samsung executive to agree to a prison sentence in the probe of price fixing for dynamic random access memory, or DRAM, the most common type of memory chips used in personal computers. Samsung is the world's largest manufacturer of memory chips."

And the more juicy piece of meat-

"Samsung, Elpida Memory Inc., Infineon Technologies AG and Hynix Semiconductor Inc. have all pleaded guilty for their roles in the scheme and were ordered to pay about $729 million in fines. The fine for Samsung and its subsidiary totaled $300 million."

Even Micron will have to lower its ram prices, because binned Elpida chips, Hynix performance IC's and Samsung binned chips will be roughly $95 shipped for 2GB kits. I'd expect to see Micron D9 based memory in the sub $130 range soon for 2GB kits.

Just some news for you guys!
a b } Memory
April 20, 2007 7:05:43 PM

Nice find. I'll have RAM up the Ying Yang. Can you dig up any threads on the Gas Price fixing thats going on?
April 20, 2007 7:32:34 PM

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Nice find. I'll have RAM up the Ying Yang. Can you dig up any threads on the Gas Price fixing thats going on?


LOL, pun intended?
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April 20, 2007 7:32:45 PM

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Nice find. I'll have RAM up the Ying Yang. Can you dig up any threads on the Gas Price fixing thats going on?


Ram companies don't have as much hush money as the oil companys so probably not
April 20, 2007 7:41:38 PM

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Nice find. I'll have RAM up the Ying Yang. Can you dig up any threads on the Gas Price fixing thats going on?


Ram companies don't have as much hush money as the oil companys so probably not

If they had invested it all from when Win95 was hitting the market they probably would....
April 20, 2007 7:42:51 PM

Since this scandal predates the jump in RAM prices late last year, I doubt it'll have any effect on RAM prices this year.
April 20, 2007 7:47:06 PM

I don't buy that. Since the Intel price drops are already here.

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?Product...

It's all about supply and demand. I have a friend who works for Mushkin Memory and he said that they are already being charged more for their Micron D9 chip's from their supplier. And they will soon be passed on to us. "So get them now while they are still cheap"
April 20, 2007 7:50:34 PM

lol you mind dumbing that down a lil what exactly did that all mean why r they in trouble and how is it being sold for cheap
a b } Memory
April 20, 2007 7:56:41 PM

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lol you mind dumbing that down a lil what exactly did that all mean why r they in trouble and how is it being sold for cheap


It's kind of like choosing between escort services. When the service advertises with the likes 'we'll beat any competitors price' it's because they have tried their competiors product and they know what they have to offer can't be found in that neck of the woods.
April 20, 2007 7:58:24 PM

ohhh ok lol i got you fell really dumb now... :oops: 
April 20, 2007 7:59:26 PM

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Nice find. I'll have RAM up the Ying Yang. Can you dig up any threads on the Gas Price fixing thats going on?



Now this get the "Damn funny post of the day award"


:lol: 


Im gonna pick up so much memory I will never forget a thing again.

Price drops prob mean DDR3 is about to be released. :wink:
April 20, 2007 8:02:37 PM

I have a friend who just bought the Kingston 2gig DDR2 667 kit for $107. Im planning to get such a kit if the SE16 I ordered doesnt fix my dead dell.

I think that the reason that 2 gig kits dropped 50% in price over the past couple months was because of those price fixing lawsuits.

I dont think that ram prices CAN drop that much more. Can you imagine a 2gig kit for $60? People will begin to say that buying 1gig sticks will be a waste of a slot.

We need 2gig kits to be perfected, mobo support to be improved, and prices to go down.
April 20, 2007 8:04:52 PM

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Price drops prob mean DDR3 is about to be released. :wink:

what will be the difference between ddr2 and ddr3?
April 20, 2007 8:47:14 PM

I imagine DDR3 will be faster. Will not fit into DDR2 slots and will make us have to spend more money to upgrade our computers yet again.
April 20, 2007 9:05:03 PM

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I imagine DDR3 will be faster. Will not fit into DDR2 slots and will make us have to spend more money to upgrade our computers yet again.


I dont give a flying F$#% about DDR3 or for that matter DX10. I just want my own PC with a C2D and a 7900 GS that I can play fear on.

A PC with those specs should last ME over 6 years.

Dont give a crap for any other stuff
April 20, 2007 9:11:51 PM

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Price drops prob mean DDR3 is about to be released. :wink:


Q3 this year supposedly
April 20, 2007 9:30:24 PM

The reason Micron will go down alongside Elpida/Samsung IC is because of value.

Think about it. If binned Elpida over-clock almost as well as Micron D9 and can be had for $80-90 for a 2GB 800 dual channel kit, why buy Micron D9 for twice as much? For 50-75 mhz and maybe a lower cas latency?

Not likely. Micron has to make money just like any other company and so does Crucial, their father company.

And if you don't think this scandal is going to bring ram prices down, you're drastically delusional. Ram prices are the whole reason this lawsuit happened and it takes away like 75% of the profit margin they made in 2006-07. They have no choice but to lower ram prices drastically, especially with DDR3 on the horizon and a very strong summer market on the horizon. They need to make back that profit margin, and fast.
April 20, 2007 9:51:58 PM

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The reason Micron will go down alongside Elpida/Samsung IC is because of value.

Think about it. If binned Elpida over-clock almost as well as Micron D9 and can be had for $80-90 for a 2GB 800 dual channel kit, why buy Micron D9 for twice as much? For 50-75 mhz and maybe a lower cas latency?

Not likely. Micron has to make money just like any other company and so does Crucial, their father company.

And if you don't think this scandal is going to bring ram prices down, you're drastically delusional. Ram prices are the whole reason this lawsuit happened and it takes away like 75% of the profit margin they made in 2006-07. They have no choice but to lower ram prices drastically, especially with DDR3 on the horizon and a very strong summer market on the horizon. They need to make back that profit margin, and fast.


This is nothing new. This has been unfolding for some time now. Don't expect too much to come of it in regards to pricing. Current price fluctuations will be as a result of other factors.

Here are some previous articles.

02-08-07: http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/30909/118/
12-21-06: http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/30401/122/
10-19-06: http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/29285/122/
09-22-06: http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/28760/122/
03-23-06: http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/25308/118/
03-02-06: http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/24938/118/
04-21-05: http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/2782/139/
12-30-04: http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/4606/139/
02-26-04: http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/8915/139/
01-02-04: http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/9785/139/

I figure back to 2004 is enough even though the DoJ was looking back further.
April 20, 2007 11:39:13 PM

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... Micron has to make money just like any other company and so does Crucial, their father company....

Just to clarify, Micron owns Crucial and so is the parent company.
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