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It's rather overwhelming to see how suddenly Best Buy has filled up
with 30+ inch direct-view LCD TVs in just the last two months. There
are six or eight of them in there, none more than a handful of weeks
old...

I have my doubts of them ever dropping in price enough to stay
competitive with other technologies, most of which look better anyway.
I bet the future for direct LCDs is probably going to be back in the
small portable market where it started. Agree? Disagree?

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"Paul Kienitz" <paul-NOZPAM@paulkienitz.net> wrote in message
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> It's rather overwhelming to see how suddenly Best Buy has filled
> up with 30+ inch direct-view LCD TVs in just the last two months.
> There are six or eight of them in there, none more than a handful
> of weeks old...
>
> I have my doubts of them ever dropping in price enough to stay
> competitive with other technologies, most of which look better
> anyway. I bet the future for direct LCDs is probably going to be
> back in the small portable market where it started. Agree?
> Disagree?

Some folks disagree:

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/18/ [...] 8stat.html




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paul-NOZPAM@paulkienitz.net (Paul Kienitz) wrote in
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> It's rather overwhelming to see how suddenly Best Buy has filled up
> with 30+ inch direct-view LCD TVs in just the last two months. There
> are six or eight of them in there, none more than a handful of weeks
> old...
>
> I have my doubts of them ever dropping in price enough to stay
> competitive with other technologies, most of which look better anyway.
> I bet the future for direct LCDs is probably going to be back in the
> small portable market where it started. Agree? Disagree?

You couldn't be more wrong. LCD's are most likely to shove plasma's right
out of the market. This is one of the main reasons Sony has joined forces
with Samsung to start mass producing LCD's. Sharp has the upper hand and
Sony is playing catchup. Predictions are that Sharps 45" LCD that sells for
between 8 and 10 thousand dollars today will sell for $1500 by 2008. The
Sharp 45" LCD converts to 1080P giving the best possible picture and may be
the best item on the market today, longer life, and no burn in, just costs
to much.

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LivingReminder wrote:
> You couldn't be more wrong. LCD's are most likely to shove plasma's right
> out of the market. This is one of the main reasons Sony has joined forces
> with Samsung to start mass producing LCD's. Sharp has the upper hand and
> Sony is playing catchup. Predictions are that Sharps 45" LCD that sells for
> between 8 and 10 thousand dollars today will sell for $1500 by 2008. The
> Sharp 45" LCD converts to 1080P giving the best possible picture and may be
> the best item on the market today, longer life, and no burn in, just costs
> to much.

I also expect the prices for the bigger direct view LCD TVs to fall by
a lot. But I have seen the 45" Sharp Aquos in several stores and side by
side to the Panasonic 50" plasma - the Panny plasma had the better
overall picture. So while the Sharp 45" Aquos is an impressive set, the
plasmas still have the advantage of better black levels, no motion smear
(although the new Aquos G is much improved over most other LCDs), and
better color range. I don't consider the best picture on the market.

But to say that LCDs will push plasmas out of the market is not
something that even people in LCD industry expect to happen. Plasma TVs
have a significant price advantage over similar size LCDs at the moment.
Many expect plasmas to retain that price advantage as prices fall
because the start-up cost of a plasma manufacturing plant is in the
range of several hundred million $ compared to a billion or more for an
LCD plant. The general opinion is that LCDs will be the dominant thin TV
in the < 37" size range, plasmas and LCDs will compete in the 37 to 45"
range, and plasmas will continue to dominate the market in bigger sizes.

2008 is a long way off in the current HD TV market, too far out to
really predict prices - except that they will be a lot cheaper than now.
A price and technology war will be very good to the consumer. What I
think we can predict is that CRTs by then will be relegated to one or
two back corner aisles for the budget buyers in the big B&M chains.

Alan

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Alan Figgatt <afiggatt@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<MOGdndTc1ZDTkDzcRVn-2A@comcast.com>...

> The general opinion is that LCDs will be the dominant thin TV
> in the < 37" size range, plasmas and LCDs will compete in the 37 to 45"
> range, and plasmas will continue to dominate the market in bigger sizes.
>
> 2008 is a long way off in the current HD TV market, too far out to
> really predict prices - except that they will be a lot cheaper than now.
> A price and technology war will be very good to the consumer. What I
> think we can predict is that CRTs by then will be relegated to one or
> two back corner aisles for the budget buyers in the big B&M chains.

Nothing I've heard from any direction indicates that large LCDs will
ever be truly cheap. CRTs will underprice them in middle sizes for a
long time yet. Plasmas will probably pass their mantle on to SEDs,
which may have a long life ahead of them, and which may be able to
drop in price just as fast as LCDs ever manage to do. They have the
advantage of being filled only with vacuum, not with exotic liquids or
gases. Larger LCDs might keep right on being out-valued from both
sides for long enough to get popularly perceived as undesirable
technology. Rear projection may drop in price fastest of all.

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