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>>My post is more centered around the fact that the simple minded seem to
>>run to religion more and more when it suits them, like the masses of our
>>great country are currently doing in a time of crisis, whilst in the UK,
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> Ostensibly, you are a "scientist" requiring proof of a theory before
> accepting the theory as fact (otherwise you leap into the faith realm which
> you claim to disregard). Please provide some empirical evidence to support
> your suggestion that "simple minded" people are the ones who believe in God.
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No, technically, I am an atheist. If I was requiring proof, then I
would be agnostic. I do not hold hope for a god or whatever to show me
the light. I don't believe. The simple minded are not the ones who
believe in god, they are the blind that put blind faith into a religion.
Also, tell me where in my statemet that I stated that the simple minded
needed god? I don't see that in my earlier statement. I think the
dividing line between god and religion is blurred by those who need a
god to feel better than the rest, ie: christians that tell someone that
they are going to go to hell if you don't accept "their" god.
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>>free thinking is making a comeback. I am a Yankee, and am also an
>>atheist. Not agnostic, not satanic, but atheist. I prefer free thinker,
>>but that escapes most of the populace of our country who would.
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> I too, am a free-thinker. I just happen to be free to think there is a God.
> Belief in God and "free-thinking" are not mutually exclusive terms. I have
> a good friend who is an agnostic. As he terms it: "I don't believe there is
> a God, but I'm not arrogant enough to claim I know for sure." That is a
> more logical position to take than the one you have chosen. Again, you are
> saying unequivocably there is *no* God. I assume you must have proof for
> this?
Your friend is also probably good at blowing off decisions that will
affect his life while using a clever excuse that will make him sound
intelligent, and educated, but still irresponsible.
You are trying to put yourself into a category by being a hypocrite.
Your statement is pointing me out to be arrogant, and even below, it
states it again that you are right, and have me all figured out. How
does that make you a free thinker? I personally like to listen to all
of ideas of religions, and soak up the historical values of each. I
like the morals of some, but have a realllllly hard time in believing in
a make believe character that just has always been there with all of
these awesome powers that likes to make a bunch of people suffer at his
whims.
Oh, and in case you ask how he makes people suffer, I suggest you turn
on the news and watch for a couple of hours. Don't care what source,
but should probably steer clear of the Fox network.
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>>rather fall into the norm and accept whatever outcome is dealt to them.
>>Belief, to them, would be that whatever happens, they will go to the
>>pearly gates, and live eternally at the feet of god, whoo hoo, what a
>>future.
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> You could describe a marriage the same way: I will pledge the rest of my
> life to place my spouses needs above my own - (Doesn't sound very
> appealing - until you are in a relationship where both partners are
> committed to that ideal.. Once you share that, the written description
> never does it justice)
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> Lastly, if you are a *confident* athiest, why even make the post? I think
> you are searching. I wish you luck...
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Are you putting words in my mouth now? I do pledge myself to the needs
of my wife, children, and freinds and neighbors, fellow troops, because
that is my lifestyle, and I do it willingly, and without the hope of
going to heaven and pleasing a god, but so that my children will grow up
and be good people, and give positively to the community. I do so
without ego, without selfishness, and without regret. Can you say that?
I don't need your approval, your god's, or anyone else's.
I think it funny that you contain all of the same religious better than
thou rhetoric that your neo christian beliefs have taught you.
You are a christian, and all others will fall from glory and burn in
hell, while you live in heaven at the feet of god. Well, here is to
hoping he washes in between his toes.