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April 23, 2007 1:09:38 PM

Anyone got a link to benchmark for 8500GT? I've been trying to look around, found a bunch of 8600GT benchmarks, but can't find much of 8500GT.

I'm trying to compare that of 8500GT vs 7600GT/X1650XT since they're all priced equally.

All I know at the moment from reading various websites, which I don't know if they're reliable, is that 7600GT/X1650XT are slightly faster than 8500GT, but 8500GT is faster than 7600GS. And 8500GT is using DDR2 instead, with lower Core Clock and Memory Frequency speed, but has DirectX 10 support. I need more details from benchmarks to see if 8500GT would be a great choice, as 8500GT uses way less power than the other cards mentioned, and even come with passive cooling, which would be great for quiet systems.

I'm building a new system, since E4300's priced drop to $117 on MWave, and the huge drop in DDR2's price.

This is gonna be the 8th C2D system I'm building, and I'm strict on budget, building it, gonna mess with it for a couple weeks, sell it for a profit. xP

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April 23, 2007 1:44:20 PM

look at it this way...a x1300 has dx 9 support....but which dx9 games can it really play without any trouble???

similarly just cause the 8500 has dx10 support, doesnt mean it will be able to play all dx10 games without a flaw. So bringing dx10 into the deciding factor may not be the best choice.

Obviously i could be wrong, since there are no benchmarks out yet that i know of showing any dx10 card playing a dx10 game....as there is no dx10 game out yet.

So since there is no current information on the 8500...you can either wait if your not in any rush, or you can go ahead with one of your other two choices (which by the way, are not bad at all)

however...seeing as you are gonna sell it again, the whole idea of saying "also supports dx10" would probably make it easier to sell :p 
April 23, 2007 2:56:31 PM

I have yet to decide which graphic card I want to get, but I need to look for some benchmark before I make my decision, I usually get $100-200 per system. People who buy my system are usually people I meet from forums, especially HardOCP and TG, some from my college and ex-colleagues. They know of me through the guide I wrote, and they usually pay me pretty well for the effort I put in to overclock the system. What I usually do is, pass them all the receipt/invoice, and ask them to pay for what I've paid for it, on top of that, they tip me whatever they think I deserve. Therefore, the graphic card won't help me in selling it for higher price.
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April 23, 2007 3:01:38 PM

Since the 8600 GT barely beats the 7600GT, it's hard to imagine the crippled 8500 GT being a decent performer.

It's a safe bet the 7600 GT/X1650 XT are still the best performance per dollar in the $100 range.
April 23, 2007 3:04:16 PM

I haven't looked for 8500GT benchmarks since Friday, maybe some popped up on the weekend. But I think it's fair to say that they'd be pretty bleak. Dismal, in fact. If I recall the specs correctly the 8500GT has half the stream processors of the 8600, slower core speed, and slower memory speed. Given that the 8600 itself is fairly mediocre, the 8500 doesn't sound promising.
April 23, 2007 3:12:16 PM

Yep:

8600 GT: 32 stream processors, 540 MHz core, 700 MHz mem
8500 GT: 16 stream processors, 450 MHz core, 400 MHz mem

8500 GT = YUCK!

With those dismal specs, it'll probably perform like the X1600 PRO...
April 23, 2007 3:46:22 PM

OK Guys,i have some 8500 & 8600 series gaming benchmark.
Take a look at Here & Here.
According to the web site :
Nvidia has successfully created this dilemma for the upgraders who's looking at an affordable upgrade in the range of USD200~. The 7950GT or the 8600GTS? The 7900GS or the 8600GT? It would really depends on many factors. One of those is the drivers, the G84/86 are using a different set of drivers from the 7 series, for which I seriously hope that Nvidia can attempt to polish up the drivers as the performance in some of the games ran is simply lacklustre.
April 23, 2007 3:50:35 PM

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OK Guys,i have some 8500 & 8600 series gaming benchmark.
Take a look at Here & Here.
According to the web site :
Nvidia has successfully created this dilemma for the upgraders who's looking at an affordable upgrade in the range of USD200~. The 7950GT or the 8600GTS? The 7900GS or the 8600GT? It would really depends on many factors. One of those is the drivers, the G84/86 are using a different set of drivers from the 7 series, for which I seriously hope that Nvidia can attempt to polish up the drivers as the performance in some of the games ran is simply lacklustre.


Good find. As expected, a pretty sorry show by the 8600 and (especially) 8500.
April 23, 2007 4:02:10 PM

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a pretty sorry show by the 8600 and (especially) 8500.

Yeah man, too shame for a GeForce8 Series card.
even the very over priced 8600GTS can't keep up with the 7950GT.
the 8500 really sucks!
they don't deserve the "GeForce8" title.maybe something like 7600Ultra or 7600GTX or 7600DX10. :tongue:
April 23, 2007 4:43:35 PM

Yuk. The only way those cards are gonna sell is if people don't have info about the card before buying, they should probably put on the box "This card really DOES suck"
April 23, 2007 5:18:48 PM

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...they should probably put on the box "This card really DOES suck"

:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol: 
April 23, 2007 5:50:28 PM

Or put a chick in the likeness of the ATI girl, and color the box red to confuse people.


Good market strategy.... anyone know of the PSP Pop ripoff.... kinda like that.
April 23, 2007 6:10:21 PM

you dissing the fx5700? Seriously, that was the best card .. like... ever.
April 23, 2007 6:11:55 PM

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you dissing the fx5700? Seriously, that was the best card .. like... ever.


Nah, that honour was reserved for the legendary fx5500
April 23, 2007 10:32:30 PM

So, 8500GT is a no go? Damn, I thought I could get a decent, affordable DirectX 10 card going for $100. Wanted to get ready for Vista and shyt, but oh well. Coz if everything turns out well, I'm planning to keep the system, and that only means that I gotta upgrade the graphics card some time in the future, which means wasting even more money.
April 23, 2007 10:54:54 PM

Right..... Because Dx10 is out.

By the time you can use DX10, the 8800gts 320 might be $150 bucks.
April 23, 2007 11:29:17 PM

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So, 8500GT is a no go? Damn, I thought I could get a decent, affordable DirectX 10 card going for $100. Wanted to get ready for Vista and shyt, but oh well. Coz if everything turns out well, I'm planning to keep the system, and that only means that I gotta upgrade the graphics card some time in the future, which means wasting even more money.


I know how you feel, but the 8500GT and 8600GT are not worth the money. The 8800GTS sounds like your best bet, once prices come down. Like Comptia_Rep said, the 8800GTS will be much cheaper by the time we can really use DX10.
April 24, 2007 12:51:54 AM

I guess I'll stick with the 7600GT, I could get the FoxConn 7600GT for $75 after rebate, which I think is a steal.
a b U Graphics card
April 24, 2007 12:53:12 AM

Hey nice review, I particularly like how they show the VRAM modules on each card.

Nice find ! :wink: :trophy: :wink:

PS, is it just me or the more you look the more you find [H]'s playability review clashing with pretty much everyone else on the .net's impression of the GF8600 series? :roll:
April 24, 2007 1:34:27 AM

From the benchmark, 8500GT loses to 7600GT/X1650XT an average of 20-30% in terms of frames per seconds. This really suck. I bet it won't be able to play DirectX 10 games properly.
April 24, 2007 1:49:44 AM

that card sucks

its made for newbies for Dx10 compatibility

get a 8800 GTS 320 for $250 after rebate if that is too much then get a job any job for week and u have the difference.

if the job thing is not possible (you might have arms or legs or something) i would wate for ati cards to come out the 8600GTS will drop down to $150 or less
a b U Graphics card
April 24, 2007 1:53:18 AM

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if the job thing is not possible (you might have arms or legs or something)


I have arms and legs, and something, why do you say I can't work anymore?
Damn You!
Prejudiced against those of us with arms and legs! :twisted:
a b U Graphics card
April 24, 2007 2:21:22 AM

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Hey nice review, I particularly like how they show the VRAM modules on each card.
Nice find ! :wink: :trophy: :wink:

LOL, thx. It didn't take me long to recycle that linky huh. Keep 'em coming. will ya. :D 

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PS, is it just me or the more you look the more you find [H]'s playability review clashing with pretty much everyone else on the .net's impression of the GF8600 series? :roll:

I agree. Actually I have gone from being an [H] fan to shaking my head at them. Not only do their results not match up with pretty much anyone, but their test settings (the no grass for X19xx cards) like we have talked about is rediculous. There are no canned Oblivion timedemo's, so they can't argue their real gameplay difference on that one. But they seem to paint the X19xx's as aweful Oblivion cards and others sites don't repeat that. And they are pretty much the only site to salivate over the 8600's like they are a must have card. Plus in the FOorums you pointed out, did you see their arguement for using the X1950 pro? They said they bought a built by ATI and it cost $220+, so it was a fair comparison. :roll: Odd they found OC'ed non reference 8600's to test, but they missed all the sub $150 X1950 pro's and sub $200 X1950XT and went with a totally overpriced BBA. :roll: :roll:
April 24, 2007 3:44:59 AM

I've already placed an order for 7600GT, for $110 - $35 rebate = $75, and $5.95 shipping.
a b U Graphics card
April 24, 2007 6:02:06 AM

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LOL, thx. It didn't take me long to recycle that linky huh. Keep 'em coming. will ya. :D 


I do what I can, but of course a little distracted recently with Cup Fever.

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Plus in the FOorums you pointed out, did you see their arguement for using the X1950 pro? They said they bought a built by ATI and it cost $220+, so it was a fair comparison. :roll:


Yeah well you know my opinion of the forum, especially recently.

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Odd they found OC'ed non reference 8600's to test, but they missed all the sub $150 X1950 pro's and sub $200 X1950XT and went with a totally overpriced BBA. :roll: :roll:


Yeah interesting how that happened. Couldn't find the 2 cheap X1950XTs at the time on NewEgg (3 if you included open box), despite having adds for NewEgg all over their site. Guess they don't practice what they preach.

Maybe the other two ads on the front page (including my personal fav) had a little more influence in their decision making process;

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/354/hfrontpagelg7.jp...

I guess they don't get much ad revenue for the X1950s these days. :roll:

If it were any other site I'd cut them slack, but there's too many things that are off nowadays, from the BFG sponsored benchies to Kyle's recent irrational tirades in the forums. They need more scrutiny not more slack IMO.
April 24, 2007 7:53:03 AM

Yeah, the benchmark should instead compare products that are close to its price range, and predecessors, such as 7600GS/GT.
April 24, 2007 7:11:00 PM

How much will you buy my damaged hard drives for? I have Sata/IDE/40pin/scsi/SAS/scsi320/... and a few 5 1/4 bigfoot drives.
April 24, 2007 8:38:33 PM

Though I'm a fan of ATI, I don't rejoice in NVidia's blunders. What this means is less competition and thus a slower advance of technology => less bang for my $$$.

I hope ATI's midrange kicks ass. It doesn't even have to, now that the competitor isn't doing any good. :evil: 
a b U Graphics card
April 24, 2007 11:44:06 PM

I don't revel in it's blunders, but since this is the range of cards I hope for in my laptop, if the GFGO8600 and MRX2600/MRHD2600 (or whatever the FAQ it'll be called) perform like this compared to the GFGO7900GS and GFGO7GTX and MRX18-19K, then hopefully they will be wicked cheap, and thus give good media features for cheap.

The nice thing about this blunder is potentially pushing down the prices early, and all the media-centric features are just fine, and better than the GF8800s, so hey that a plus for people like me, who don't mind gaming at 1280x720 as long as the media stuff works. :twisted:

I agree thought it'd be nice for the leap to have been better, but hopefully this pushes nV to do what ATi did after the X1600 fumble, come out with nice solutions like the X1900GT to try and fill the gap between mediocre mid-range and the good lower part of the high-end.

Too bad the GF8800GS rumour was just that, because a nice 256bit card would be the right answer IMO.

I think both AMD and nV are hooped for this segment's gamers, because unless the H2600 has some miracle stuffed up it's sleeve, I think the best value will remain the GTS-320 and then a cheap previous generation DX9 high end card. Except of course for media-centric applications.
April 25, 2007 2:39:23 AM

I suppose sometime tomorrow I'll know how well nVidia drivers and Vista work firsthand. I'm expecting 50-100% boost in performance, and on Saturday one of the main games I've had trouble with should run smoothly. If nothing else, hopefully I can turn some settings up on some other games to make them look nicer while playing.
May 6, 2007 2:01:03 AM

the only thing I can say about ANY DX10 card, is that DX10 is supposed to be more efficient than DX9. Therefore ANY DX10 card will perform much better with DX10 material than it would with DX9 material. At the same time though, Vista pretty much sucks and DX10 games are in the outfield.
May 22, 2007 7:35:30 PM

I think the 8500 and low 8600's are good for media centRs and basic granny spec pc's
I have a x1300pro as my media centre a 8500 should be better no?

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=695&...
this is the only benchmarks i can find on it , and its done in linux FFS :roll:
the only benchmarks on the net they didi it in linux what a bunch of lamers :roll:
it preformed ok, under linux :roll: ok ill stop with the crap linux now :roll:
ok seriously :lol: 
May 23, 2007 1:57:46 AM

I wonder how much VISTA is dragging down DX10.
June 8, 2007 5:19:00 PM

why dont anyone compare the 8500GT to the 7300GT rather than the 7600GT?

here in the UK the 8500GT can be had for the same price as the 7300GT around £50
August 6, 2007 12:03:49 PM

8600GT is ok but the 8500GT is really designed for media centre PCs, or low budget gamers, but still here in UK the 500 is about the same as the 600 if you look around...
August 6, 2007 1:58:05 PM

wiz83 said:
I've already placed an order for 7600GT, for $110 - $35 rebate = $75, and $5.95 shipping.


I just did the same thing for my new build last week, except it was evga for $90 - $15 MIR = $75 +$6 shippping

It's very nice, twice the performance of my X1600pro, now GRAW doesn't look like ***.

I'll probably upgrade to a DX10 card a year from now.

October 3, 2007 7:03:28 PM

Hello there!

A friend of mine can get me one of these three cards for free:

EN7600GS
7600GT
8600GT

I was more inclined to the 8600GT but after reading this i'm not sure anymore... The EN7600GS looks good for it's the only one with 512MB DDR2.. the 8600GT has DDR3 (wich my crappy motherboard doesn't support, but thats ok cuz i'll buy some nvidia next month or so..)

So... what do you think?
October 3, 2007 7:55:19 PM

Get the 8600GT if it is free. The DDR3 is the memory on the video card and has nothing to do with what memory your mobo supports.
October 3, 2007 8:38:08 PM

What about cards for dx10.1? /whocares
October 3, 2007 8:54:40 PM

shaitanpt said:
Hello there!

A friend of mine can get me one of these three cards for free:

EN7600GS
7600GT
8600GT

I was more inclined to the 8600GT but after reading this i'm not sure anymore... The EN7600GS looks good for it's the only one with 512MB DDR2.. the 8600GT has DDR3 (wich my crappy motherboard doesn't support, but thats ok cuz i'll buy some nvidia next month or so..)

So... what do you think?


Like turtle1 pointed out, the memory on your card is completely independent from the memory on your motherboard. As long as you have a PCI-E slot, you should have no problem running the 8600GT DDR2 edition.
October 3, 2007 11:24:58 PM

shaitanpt said:
Hello there!

A friend of mine can get me one of these three cards for free:

EN7600GS
7600GT
8600GT

I was more inclined to the 8600GT but after reading this i'm not sure anymore... The EN7600GS looks good for it's the only one with 512MB DDR2.. the 8600GT has DDR3 (wich my crappy motherboard doesn't support, but thats ok cuz i'll buy some nvidia next month or so..)

So... what do you think?