I just got the XFX 8600GT XXX, its soso in Dx9 games better then the 7600GT but that its, i thought it will perform good in the future DX10 games but i remember there was a Nvidia DX10 demo ( Cascade ) There was a Lite Version for the 8600, i runned it and i got very disappointed more then 1024 resolution it lag like hell, even at 1024 resolution without any A-filter or AA of course it lagged when it came too close to the waterfall in bug camera mode. I wish its not going to be that ugly graphic and that lag in the DX10 Games with a 8600GT because what the point to create a product like that.