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Spring VGA Charts 2007

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April 24, 2007 2:27:02 PM

April showers bring May flowers, and new graphics parts that require new VGA charts.

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April 24, 2007 2:46:31 PM

I would prefer the multi and single cards in one chart for comparison of the two. I would have thought most people would want to compare single to SLI/CF over SLI/CF to SLI/CF.

Also, it mentions DUAL and QUAD. What distinguishes dual SLI/CF from quad in your chart?
April 24, 2007 2:50:27 PM

Quad refers to the two 7950GX2s, each having two G71 chips, thus a total of four G71s.
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April 24, 2007 2:55:14 PM

Thanks for the info!

One more curiosity:

Why does everyone run the no AA / AF benchmarks at low resolutions? I assume this is for a non-GPU bound reference point? Or for low budget cards?

It would be nice to see a high res no AA / AF in addition.
April 24, 2007 3:44:44 PM

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I would prefer the multi and single cards in one chart for comparison of the two. I would have thought most people would want to compare single to SLI/CF over SLI/CF to SLI/CF.

Also, it mentions DUAL and QUAD. What distinguishes dual SLI/CF from quad in your chart?



I have to agree with this as I like being able to compare an SLI setup to a single card. I happen to run 2 7600 GT's in SLI mode and seeing how they compare to a 7900 is how I made my decision to use the 2 7600's.
April 24, 2007 4:16:33 PM

This new system and using firefox browser to be able to differentiate my old graphics card system vs. my new is nice. It was easy to see that I was getting twice the performance than before.

Also, it clearly shows which games aren't SLI optimized, as some SLI setups have the same scores for just a single card, all games should by now be optimized for multiple GPUs. :x
April 24, 2007 4:42:33 PM

OK... I'm frustrated. Some of the cards they have on the SLI/CF page aren't on the Single card page and many of the single cards aren't on the SLI/CF page. The latter I can understand since fewer people have SLI/CF setups and you can probably find one with similar performance (for example a 7800GTX 256MB SLI which IS on the chart would perform similarly to a 7900GS SLI). But for some reason the 8800GTS 320MB both vanilla and OC'd don't make it onto the single card page.

-mcg
April 24, 2007 4:46:08 PM

Where are these AGP cards you speak of?
It would be great if you could add in the X1950 and the 7600 AGP versions into these charts.
April 24, 2007 5:25:10 PM

Ummm...what were the system specs for the testing?

And it looks like FSX might be a better processor test than a graphics card test...At 10x7 even the mighty 8800GTX only doubles a X1300 Hypermemory? Just WOW!
April 24, 2007 5:32:15 PM

I wonder when the x1950xt wondered in there. :?: well, it's nice to finally see were my card ranks in the charts rather then to stare at the charts for minutes until, I think I know were it would place. :p 
April 24, 2007 6:23:22 PM

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Ummm...what were the system specs for the testing?

And it looks like FSX might be a better processor test than a graphics card test...At 10x7 even the mighty 8800GTX only doubles a X1300 Hypermemory? Just WOW!


I too came here looking for system specs. Are they posted somewhere?
April 24, 2007 6:42:54 PM

Click on every score bar, a pop up will appear with the info you seek. ;) 
April 24, 2007 7:08:43 PM

Anyone else notice the ATi 7800 GTX SLI (G70, 550Mhz, 1700Mhz, 512 MB GDDR3) Entry here on the dual and quad page. :p 
April 24, 2007 7:37:08 PM

yep thats the new site. looked very plain at first. they are starting to add some more content and fill in the gaps.

unfortunately this is basically the charts we will have to live with for another 6 months or so until the next round up.

heres a link to the other vga charts
April 24, 2007 7:46:05 PM

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Anyone else notice the ATi 7800 GTX SLI (G70, 550Mhz, 1700Mhz, 512 MB GDDR3) Entry here on the dual and quad page. :p 

lol yeah just read it and was like "wtf?!" i thought more people would have noticed!
That's some real good editing :lol: 
April 24, 2007 9:20:36 PM

The lack of 8800GTS 320mb in the single graphics card charts is unforgivable.
April 24, 2007 9:40:41 PM

I second that.
April 24, 2007 9:56:24 PM

The Nvidia X1950XTX CF (R580+, 648MHZ, 1998 MHZ 512mb GDDR4) is awesome too!
April 24, 2007 10:14:13 PM

Am I the only one who wants Tom to leave in all the old cards too?
I like to see how much technology has progressed. Im sure advertising would grant the time it takes to benchmark cards down to the FX / 9800 level.
April 25, 2007 2:25:22 AM

This is the first time i have found this chart usefull. It has games i play (BF 2142) and it has the res i want to buy a 24" monitor for (1900x1200)

Nice job guys. :wink:
April 25, 2007 4:14:45 AM

Any idea what CPU(s) were used when testing?

The Microsoft Flight Simulator X has my interest peaked, especially with the massive bottleneck I can only guess can be attributed to the CPU.
April 25, 2007 4:16:26 AM

See my post above! :) 

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Click on every score bar, a pop up will appear with the info you seek. ;) 
April 25, 2007 4:21:23 AM

Fist Post.


This thread is fake.
April 25, 2007 4:23:13 AM

Ahh, thank you. I read your post earlier but I couldn't figure what you meant. Thought it might have been some sort of joke I didnt get lol :wink:

Still curious about those Flight Simulator X benchies though :?
April 25, 2007 4:32:56 AM

Hmm, did I miss something, or is the X1950PRO crossfire missing?
No offense, but HOW THE HELL did a 8800gts 320mb stock sli config beat a 8800gtx sli config in BF2142. 8O
Lol @ the ATI 7800gtx too
April 25, 2007 7:27:04 AM

I would like to also start seeing testing at 2560x1600 for those of us that use such large monitors (mainly for higher end cards and cf/sli setups) but i can say from more recent browsing of articles, this is one of the better updates you have done with little to no complaints unlike some of the other articles on overclocking and what not. :D 
a b U Graphics card
April 25, 2007 9:47:01 AM

Why dont you use FEAR instead of Doom 3? Isnt Doom 3 a little dated compared to the other games?

EDIT: Also does anyone else find that the "Choose Benchmark" dropdown is too long on Firefox?
April 25, 2007 2:39:29 PM

I had to double take on the typo's too. Pretty funny
April 25, 2007 3:36:31 PM

Im looking at the 3DMark06 sores and scratching my head. I have a X1950XT at the exact same GPU/MEM speeds as listed ont he charts. They used an X6800 and I only have an E4300. And thier score only like 3000marks. I get over 5000marks

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=1570276

whats the diff??

EDIT: I see those are subscores not overall. sorry.
April 25, 2007 4:37:07 PM

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Hmm, did I miss something, or is the X1950PRO crossfire missing?
No offense, but HOW THE HELL did a 8800gts 320mb stock sli config beat a 8800gtx sli config in BF2142. 8O
Lol @ the ATI 7800gtx too


The only time I see the GTS 320MB SLI beating the GTX SLI is at 1024x768 resolution, and even then it's only by a couple frames. Move the benchmark to 1600x1200 or 1920x1200 and you'll see the GTX setup shine.

You've just proven that if you are still gaming at a low enough resolution, you really don't need a super-powerful video card. These cards are made to be run at high resolutions, and even then, only if you have the processor to keep up and not bottleneck your new expensive video card.

-TyShoe
April 25, 2007 5:13:36 PM

O.o Where are the 8600 Benches? Certainly they've been out long enough?

>.> I wanted to compare them with the X1950s... but they're STILL not on the charts... Watch the R600 series beat them to the charts, too.
April 25, 2007 6:41:13 PM

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do you have any idea how long it takes to benchmark and compile the data for this. i don't but am sure it takes a bloody long time. also, how long do you think this article has been ready in comparison to the release of the 8600's. they have been out no time at all and you are complaining.

get real, grow up and try to remember the work that goes into to something as massive as this.


I agree that it takes some time, but what about the e4300 and the 6300 on the CPU charts? Where are they? They came out MANY months ago.....
April 25, 2007 9:00:29 PM

wtf where are the 8600gts.gt
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April 25, 2007 9:08:05 PM

Im with sirrobin4ever on this one they said it would be the last chart to feature AGP, fair enough but where are they.
If ATI and NVIDEA can be arsed to make new AGP cards there must be a market so why not include them!
April 26, 2007 12:33:46 AM

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track i'll be nice for once and tell you that dark messiah uses the source engine which does not use openEXR HDR. it uses the in built source HDR which works differently and can work on SM2 capable cards as well.


Listen, i know how hard that was and i just want to thank you for that. Im not kidding, ur probably a dick, but i know it was hard, so seriously thank you.

And yeh, how stupid of me! Go source!
April 26, 2007 3:34:13 AM

I was really glad to see BF2142 put in there and the extra resolutions are great! thanks Tom!

I can't imagine the 320mb GTS would be much different from the 640mb which is reason enough to leave it out however since they have included higher resolutions, it would make sense to have the 320 and 640 to make the comparison for 24"+ owners.
April 26, 2007 5:47:28 PM

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Anyone else notice the ATi 7800 GTX SLI (G70, 550Mhz, 1700Mhz, 512 MB GDDR3) Entry here on the dual and quad page. :p 


That and the

Nvidia X1950 XTX CF R580+, 648 MHz, 1998 MHz, 512MB GDDR4
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April 26, 2007 7:26:22 PM

It seems to me the more i look at it the more its like they started doing it and went whoa this is gona take forever and just stuck some v/badly thought through rules to reduce the amount of work involved.
I do realise that it is indeed a heck of a lot of work to do it but lets do it properly or not at all.

X800xl included in hdr-r results -how? according to the chart it beats cards that actualy support the feature v/confusing if you dont know thing 1 about g/cards

Where are the mentioned last of the agp they said were included

What was the test bed are some cards bottle necked by the cpu or did they run it on something that people running x800 series cards wouldnt in a million years have in there pc

Mactronix
a c 130 U Graphics card
April 26, 2007 8:33:26 PM

Thanks for that about the specs
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