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April 24, 2007 10:30:43 PM

Thanks to all the TGers that helped me successfully complete my first project for a coworker! =D The news has spread that I can build computers and now I have a new project to take on. Before I didn't know enough to make builds but thanks to you this time I have my own build ready for you to critique rather than asking what a build is without any ideas. Thanks a lot TG =)

Here we go.

my non OCing $800 gaming build

Case: Rosewill TU-155 Black Steel ATX Black 0.8mm SGCC Steel Mid Tower Computer Case 400W(20+4 pin) Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$55

DVD Burner: LITE-ON Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 20X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA DVD Burner with LightScribe - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$42

CD Rom: LG Black 16X DVD-ROM 52X CD-ROM E-IDE/ATAPI DVD-ROM Drive Model GDR-8164BK - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$18

Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD2500KS 250GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$70

RAM: Kingston 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Desktop Memory - Retail X 2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$54(x2) = $108

Motherboard: ASUS M2N-SLI Deluxe Socket AM2 NVIDIA nForce 570 SLI MCP ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$140

Power Supply
OCZ GameXStream OCZ700GXSSLI ATX12V 700W Power Supply 100 - 240 V - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$150

Processor
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600+(65W) Windsor 2.4GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2 Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$120

Video Card
XFX PVT71PUDP3 GeForce 7900GS 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 EXTREME Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$170

Shipping
$30.15

Grand Total
$902.05
50 dollars rebate though so its 852.05

The main thing I'm concerned about is do I need a heatsink or will the one that comes with the proc be ok?... also will my mobo fit in this mid atx case? i had that problem before....

alrighty although its only my second build and its probably got tons of problems with it... but im glad about what I've learned so far and hope I can one day be you guys who critique builds for new people =)

jae
mlb

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April 24, 2007 11:57:39 PM

For the money, you may want to look at an 8600 card for DX-10. I have those WD drives and they are great. :wink:
April 25, 2007 12:02:44 AM

Why a DVD burner and a CD-ROM drive?!?!? Why not 2 DVD drives? Not much cost difference at all. Or else just 1 optical?

OCZ 700w is a beast for your system. 600w will handle your specs and then some no problem. You can still upgrade and 600w will handle it. That'll save you some money there.

For a 7900GS, the 8600 performs the same.....plus it's DX10. Might as well just make the jump.

And do you REALLY need an SLI mobo? I highly doubt you'll wanna SLI 7900GS's, that's for sure. So I think that mobo is a waste, you could save some money on something else.

Good build, but there are definitely some money savings there you can do.
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April 25, 2007 12:24:56 AM

thanks a lot i'll look into replacements for those and will do what you said...
=)

jae
mlb

still looking if mobo will fit into case and if i need a heat sink
April 25, 2007 12:44:51 AM

more comments
Since you getting a PSU, find a case without one.
Any ATX MB will fit Any ATX case. Only when one is a microATX will you have problems
Stock HSF is all you need if not overclocking
Depending on the game, either video card will work, not many DX-10 games out yet.
April 25, 2007 1:31:24 AM

Here we go.

my non OCing $800 gaming build

Case: COOLMAX CS-480-Black W/O PSU Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E1681...
$25

DVD Burner: LITE-ON Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 20X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA DVD Burner with LightScribe - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$42

DVD Rom: LG Black 16X DVD-ROM 52X CD-ROM E-IDE/ATAPI DVD-ROM Drive Model GDR-8164BK - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E1682...
$18

Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD2500KS 250GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$70

RAM: Kingston 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Desktop Memory - Retail X 2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$54(x2) = $108

Motherboard: ASUS M2N-E Socket AM2 NVIDIA nForce 570 Ultra MCP ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E1681...
$100

Power Supply
Rosewill RP550-2 ATX 2.01 550W Power Supply 115/230 V CSA, CB, TUV, FCC, UL - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E1681...
$55

Processor
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600+(65W) Windsor 2.4GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2 Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$120

Video Card
Leadtek PX8800 GTS TDH 320MB Extreme GeForce 8800GTS 320MB 320-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E1681...
$295

Shipping
$33.51

New Grand Total = 867 rounded up

25$ mail in rebate = 840

new concerns... will this power supply be adequate?
case is cheap... concerns me...
will the video card fit on this board without having to destroy some of it?

thanks fellas guess i still have a lot to learn...

jae
mlb
April 25, 2007 1:38:23 AM

You made some changes but not all for the best.
The case is probably fine, you buy it to hold parts. This one will work, if you like the look, live with it.
The power supply will not be good, not enough to power a 8800. Stike a middle gound.
Yes the GTS will fit, it is the GTX that is too long for some cases.
Have the fun is finding things out, I still learn from most posts.
April 25, 2007 1:40:45 AM

thanks a lot =)
April 25, 2007 1:42:52 AM

Getting better!!

1) get a better PSU, definitely. Antec Trio 550w should work and be affordable. Or else the FSP Blue Storm II, it'll do and inexpensive too. Much better than Rosewill crap.

2) Why the SLI mobo? Get a much cheaper AM2 mobo.

3) Case. Take a look at the Coolermaster 534....$45 or so. Much better layout, quality, and cooling.

4) RAM. I know that stuff is an awesome deal, but it's 667. AM2 really should be using 800 RAM to work effectively. If you can live with some reduced performance (not alot though), then go for it.

5) Why the DVD-ROM? Do you really need a 2nd optical? Will an extra $20 for a burner break the bank?

Summary:
-get a better PSU, switch the case, get a cheaper mobo, and your call on the RAM.

This will get you under your budget and give you a better all-around system.
April 25, 2007 1:49:02 AM

COOLER MASTER eXtreme Power RP-650-PCAR ATX from factor 12V V2.01 650W Power Supply 115/230 V Safety Nemko, TUV, cUL, CE, BSMI, FCC, CCC - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E1681...

110 dollars

$920.41 grand total with 60 back in rebates...

860.41... a little over what i wanted to spend but i'd rather get the 8800 gts than the poorly credited 8600... 128bit is kinda eh.....

any other suggestions before i click order?
=P not that it matters cuz newegg's refund policy is AWESOME! =D

jae
mlb
April 25, 2007 2:17:03 AM

Git er done! ;) 


Good luck!
April 25, 2007 2:30:40 AM

looks good, let us know how the build goes.
April 25, 2007 7:51:29 AM

the parts are on their way... i'll put up photos of them simply because... i wanna =D hehe

jae
mlb
April 25, 2007 9:24:19 PM

i thought the price drops happened already and plus i went amd cuz i dont know how to oc... and i heard for gaming amd kills intel with out oc
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April 25, 2007 9:50:17 PM

Quote:
i thought the price drops happened already and plus i went amd cuz i dont know how to oc... and i heard for gaming amd kills intel with out oc


True, but an OC'ed E4300 will still out run most of AMD. And OC'ing C2D are not that hard.
April 25, 2007 10:14:10 PM

that's a relative statement... its not like i havent tried to learn how to oc... but trying to oc for the first time using these instructions that I have no clue on what some of the parts are, is 1. intimidating and 2. frankly makes me worry im gonna fry my expensive parts...

i'm definitely willing to try but maybe when there is a video tutorial one day lol

jae
mlb

and am i correct in thinking hte price drops happened? or did they get pushed back?
April 25, 2007 10:19:47 PM

Many of the prices came down and the new CPUs are out, There will be another price change in the fall, mostly the high end stuff.
True, if all you want is to play games, put money into the graphics card, all the newer dual core CPU, AMD and Intel are strong enough for most of the games. Get your choices and build the rig. Then think about changes.
April 25, 2007 10:55:44 PM

Agreed. If you don't plan on OC'ing and will use the system for browsing, email, and gaming, then AMD is a very attractive option. You can get a dual core CPU and mobo for very cheap, get 2 gigs cheap RAM and then sink all your money into Nvidia 8800 or ATI R600 and that'll blow away all the games :) 

If you are into OC'ing, and/or do alot of video encoding, graphics, number crunching, etc....then Intel Core2Duo is the way to go. Costs more though too, but the horsepower when OC'd simply leaves AMD behind.

Advantages to both setups, just simply depends on your system needs and what you plan on doing with it.
April 26, 2007 4:44:11 AM

Just got the Houston Paper and BAM Fry's/Outpost add says e6300 with ECS P4M800PRO-M V2 MoBo for $ 149.99 no rebate. Item# 4977841. :D 

Put one of these in a cheap build and sell the MoBo on eBay for $30.00 Now your at $119.00 now a Gigabyte DS3 MoBo $121. Now you got $240 spent. Get some of this. http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?Product... $95.00 no rebate. Some nice 8800GTS $259.00 after rebate newegg.com, and BAM your done. Lets see thats $594.00. Lets see now $206 left for case and PSU.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $80

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $150

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ShoppingCart.jsp?Action=R...

TO: Jaedaddy

Even the $125 E4300 Overclocked smokes AMD.

Looks good to me!

Good luck
April 26, 2007 6:54:11 AM

OK.

I just got 4ea 1gig Dimms of Corsair 6400c4 DDR2 $130 after rebate, and A E4300, and a cheap full ver of XPProX64. I need a Motherboard that plays nice with X64 and 4gigs DDR2. Any help would be very NICE.

P.S I LIKE TO OVERCLOCK ALOT!
Thanks
Mike
April 26, 2007 6:58:19 AM

The gigabyte DS-3 rev 3.3 is a real nice o/c'ing board. If you want SLI, I would look at the 650i chipset.
April 26, 2007 7:02:44 AM

:)  Thanks, I was thinking along the same lines.
May 3, 2007 4:07:19 AM

Hi, So I built the system listed here except with a 650w power supply that had good reviews... I also got the 8800 gts...

I ran into a problem which i read is basically a short on the mobo or ps... when i press the power button and the computer makes a sound and the fan moves for a second.. so please stand by for updates... =P
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