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a b U Graphics card
April 25, 2007 11:50:31 AM

http://www.sallandautomatisering.nl/?redirect=/content/...

Anyone want to take a guess what that would put it at in the US market? $399 seems possible to me.

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April 25, 2007 11:53:29 AM

Well whatever it is just add about 30-40% on it for me DOH :cry: 
a b U Graphics card
April 25, 2007 11:56:39 AM

I think it was the ape that said usually they just swap out the US for euro prices, even tho the euro is worth/costs more. This is lookin GOOD :D  :D  :D 
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a b U Graphics card
April 25, 2007 11:58:52 AM

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Well whatever it is just add about 30-40% on it for me DOH :cry: 
Sorry my Israeli friend. How about Intel? Arent some made there? Do they cost more as well?
April 25, 2007 12:05:34 PM

Yes, but it doesnt help.
buying a dell 24"lcd 2407 in the nexted few days, in the us about $629 here $825-900ish .
same on anything....most $500 us graphic cards i payed $900..and some off you guys complain about $40-$50 dolllers ...LOL i laugh in your face :lol: 
a b U Graphics card
April 25, 2007 12:15:27 PM

Either way, 380 euros on a yet to be delivered card, well wait 5 weeks and itll be cheaper. Good pricing as it is. Just a lil more than I paid for my 1900xt
a b U Graphics card
April 25, 2007 2:40:33 PM

If so, $380 would be very nice indeed.
a b U Graphics card
April 25, 2007 3:00:27 PM

If this is the price, and the xtx is priced similar, and it does what I think itll do...ok, get the card and the new monitor...wait for Barc or Pen....OOOPS typin out loud. Yasser is all I gotta say
April 25, 2007 3:02:08 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't 380 euros be more if converted to dollars, somehting in the 400 range? I personally don't know the conversion rate, but maybe someone does.
a b U Graphics card
April 25, 2007 3:06:03 PM

Yes it would, cant remember the exchange rate, but the euro when compared to USD, regaurding electronics is usually 1 for 1, guess Im lucky livin in the states
a b U Graphics card
April 25, 2007 3:10:58 PM

1 Euro = 1.36 USD. Thats a great savings
April 25, 2007 3:13:54 PM

Currently if the 2900 XT is 380 euro then it would be $516 in the U.S.

Definitely out of my price range.
a b U Graphics card
April 25, 2007 3:15:37 PM

Did you click the print information link? It seems to me to say delivery in 1-10 working days. Wouldn't that be a surprise. Translation anyone?
a b U Graphics card
April 25, 2007 3:17:29 PM

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Currently if the 2900 XT is 380 euro then it would be $516 in the U.S.

Definitely out of my price range.

I don't think it will work that way.

Also, BTW, look at that price excluding VAT. They get hammered in tax don't they!
a b U Graphics card
April 25, 2007 3:17:55 PM

Maybe theyre selling Fuads and Svens cards over at DT heheh
April 25, 2007 3:19:30 PM

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Currently if the 2900 XT is 380 euro then it would be $516 in the U.S.

Definitely out of my price range.

I don't think it will work that way.

agreed. usually when they sell the card for 400 euro, they sell it also at 400$.
April 25, 2007 3:20:16 PM

That place are clearly just out to grab money.

380 wouldn't be a bad price at all, but I'd wait until it hit about the €300 mark. That's enough to pay for a graphics card.
a b U Graphics card
April 25, 2007 3:21:42 PM

I edited this in up above, but look at the price excluding VAT. Huge difference.
April 25, 2007 3:22:12 PM

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agreed. usually when they sell the card for 400 euro, they sell it also at 400$.


Yeah, that's because of import duties + VAT + things just being a ripoff in Europe.
a b U Graphics card
April 25, 2007 3:26:24 PM

Looking over that site, it puts this Sapphire HD 2900XT under what they charge for the 8800GTS 640MB.
April 25, 2007 3:29:41 PM

Which would be around $450
April 25, 2007 3:35:54 PM

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If so, $380 would be very nice indeed.


If early benches are real and that sucker beats the 8800gts as they say (and fits in my case :wink: ), that's a hell of a hit on nvidia market for a few months. At least in Europe where we don't get a 8800GTS for less than 400€.
Let's wait for real benches and OC results.
I'll take one!
a b U Graphics card
April 25, 2007 3:39:00 PM

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More like $350-400 if we use USA pricing.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

man, $325 AR is a good price.


This card is amazing at that price.
Damn, with this kind of price, I feel a little worry for AMD with their product/price. If the benches prove out, this is a GTX competitor, not the GTS, and to me one helluva buy
April 25, 2007 3:41:14 PM

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agreed. usually when they sell the card for 400 euro, they sell it also at 400$.


Yeah, that's because of import duties + VAT + things just being a ripoff in Europe.

VAT in Portugal is 21%!!! :cry: 
April 25, 2007 3:43:01 PM

I just hope it's more power efficient than what was said a few months back.
I don't like the idea of buying a good card for a good price only to find you lose out long term with all the power it's burning up! I don't want to get a 1KW PSU!
April 25, 2007 3:44:36 PM

Well it looks as though the 2900xt is coming in at close to 8800gtx performance and 8800gts pricing. Good news for all of us.

Obvious prediction: 8800gts 640 and 320 will drop in price which will also force the 8600's down.

It is about time ATI has stepped back in the ring, (at the high end).
April 25, 2007 3:49:21 PM

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VAT in Portugal is 21%!!! :cry: 


It's pretty much the same for everyone in the EU, thanks to those greedy bastards.
I remember seeing a post on here somewhere a while back saying that most US states even charge any VAT for computer parts!

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Obvious prediction: 8800gts 640 and 320 will drop in price which will also force the 8600's down.



The lack of demand for the 8600s should be enough to drop them down. There's just too many bad reviews vs good ones, so I'd say sales would not be good.
a b U Graphics card
April 25, 2007 3:50:10 PM

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Anyone want to take a guess what that would put it at in the US market? $399 seems possible to me.


Yeah the thing is that price is with a huge tax on it, so that 319.33 at the bottom is the price before VAT (or Nederlands equivalent), which works out to 435-ish, so a little on the high side.

However if you consider it as 20 Euros below hte 399€ MSRP, that's a good sign.

Interesting price either way.
April 25, 2007 3:54:39 PM

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Did you click the print information link? It seems to me to say delivery in 1-10 working days. Wouldn't that be a surprise. Translation anyone?


i`m from holland, but you don`t need a translation : you are correct! it does state 1-10 working days so that`s max. 2 weeks.

also, when i read news about prices in dollars, we usually pay the same in euro`s so yeah, 380 dollars could very well be the introduction price!

very nice find btw. i live here for crying out loud and read EVERYTHING i can find about r600 and barcy but i certainly missed this one.....
April 25, 2007 4:30:15 PM

This question is for SirKillAlot and might slightly debunk the thread, but you said you're getting a 24" monitor. What manufacturer are you getting? I've been looking at getting two 24" monitors but I need a quick ms for gaming and I've read a lot of reviews where most 24" have some light bleeding from the edges things of that nature.
a b U Graphics card
April 25, 2007 5:21:04 PM

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The lack of demand for the 8600s should be enough to drop them down. There's just too many bad reviews vs good ones, so I'd say sales would not be good.


I agree completely, their relative pirce/performance compared to the GF7900GS and GF7900GTs and X1950Pro and X1950XT and even GF7600GT and X1650s for the lower end, should already be driving those prices down without anything new from AMD. The only thing keeping them high right now is the BestBuy/CompUSA buyer who is impressed by checkboxes.

Only a few cases of people outside the US where their prices are significantly favourable to the new GF8600s will they require another push from a new product to drop those prices. In the US the pressure is alreayd there in the for of the old high-end.
a b U Graphics card
April 25, 2007 5:37:29 PM

I assume you mean hijack because I don't see how Sirkillalot getting a Dell would 'debunk' the thread.

Anywho, the Dell's are ok for bleeding, but if you care that much you need something LEDlit really IMO.


OK, back on topic, so how many brownies, lids and teas does this R600 work out to?

If I know that, then I can calculate relative local value. :twisted:
April 25, 2007 6:06:47 PM

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This question is for SirKillAlot and might slightly debunk the thread, but you said you're getting a 24" monitor. What manufacturer are you getting? I've been looking at getting two 24" monitors but I need a quick ms for gaming and I've read a lot of reviews where most 24" have some light bleeding from the edges things of that nature.


Yep im getting a DELL2407wfp seems to be one of the better ones in that size the 27" is to high in price and the dot pitch is a bit bigger.
It will do for now :)  With the HD X2900 XTX when it comes out.
http://www.dvhardware.net/review93_dell_2407wfp.html
April 25, 2007 6:13:22 PM

Did you guys even see that link about overclocking it? I saw that last night and posted it in another forum.... if that sucker really does get those numbers and it's actually stable, we'll be seeing a bunch of people buying these and getting damn near GTX numbers for $100 less... Personally I will be picking up one of these monsters.... hell of an upgrade from a 7800GT lol :twisted: :twisted:
April 25, 2007 6:15:45 PM

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More like $350-400 if we use USA pricing.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

man, $325 AR is a good price.


This card is amazing at that price.
Damn, with this kind of price, I feel a little worry for AMD with their product/price. If the benches prove out, this is a GTX competitor, not the GTS, and to me one helluva buy

Thats the 320MB version though. I still think its going to be $425-475. I know Best Buy will probably sell at $475
April 25, 2007 6:18:05 PM

No i didnt see the link about it, i dont normally oc ,but even without oc it will be pretty good. especilly from my 6800gt :) 
April 25, 2007 6:20:14 PM

Yeah that's how I am... I really don't like to overclock... like you said though, without overclocking these numbers are still amazing.... I wonder what the XTX can do.... The person who wrote that article said he's in the process of benching it... so we will see soon enough.... lets hope these are real numbers lol
April 25, 2007 7:13:00 PM

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Thats the 320MB version though. I still think its going to be $425-475. I know Best Buy will probably sell at $475


Best Buy will probably sell it for $975!!!
:evil: 
a b U Graphics card
April 25, 2007 7:25:18 PM

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i`m from holland, but you don`t need a translation : you are correct! it does state 1-10 working days so that`s max. 2 weeks.

The working part looks like english and the dagen is so close to Norwegian I was pretty sure I had the working days part. Just not sure if that was delivery time, shipping time, time they expect them to be in stock, etc. :D  Thanks for confirming it.

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also, when i read news about prices in dollars, we usually pay the same in euro`s so yeah, 380 dollars could very well be the introduction price!
That's good to here for us over here. That VAT for you is aweful though.

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very nice find btw. i live here for crying out loud and read EVERYTHING i can find about r600 and barcy but i certainly missed this one.....
You know, I even beat Fudzilla to this one. :p  But it came from another forum, so I can't take too much credit. Not for lack of Googling and ATI partner site searching though. I was up early today and decided to try and find something new worth reading about R600.
a b U Graphics card
April 25, 2007 7:28:46 PM

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However if you consider it as 20 Euros below hte 399€ MSRP, that's a good sign.

Interesting price either way.

Those were my thoughts exactly. Either this site is just looking for hits, or there may be huge supply and retail or below launch prices. *sweet thought*
April 25, 2007 7:41:47 PM

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Which would be around $450


bfellow... you're not getting it. If they are selling a piece of electronics for 380 euros in europe other retailers will sell it for about 380 USD in USA. Seriously, we aren't lying to you. We know how to look up exchange rates and we're telling you that, for electronics, euros in europe = dollars in usa. 1:1 ratio. Really, it's true. The taxes and such are different.

So if you're ever in Europe and desperate for cash: sell your laptop ;)  It's not legal but if you have a buyer set up ahead of time no one will notice if you fly in with a laptop and fly home without one. Same goes for cell phones, digital cameras, and portable media players. Buy a fancy international cell phone at a steep discount with a service and MIRs, get it unlocked, buy a cheap prepaid phone from the same carrier and switch out your SIM cards, sell the fancy phone in Europe while on vacation for a couple hundred in profit...

Consumer electronics market in USA is so messed up you're practically obligated to defraud it. You wonder why so many foreign manufacturers don't even sell their stuff in USA even though it's the biggest market? Or launch someplace else first even though a launch event in the USA would yeild the largest profit margins? Cause our market is chaos and crap and our consumers are more interested in "sales" and "image" then they are in buying the best fit best value product. Maybe if enough people rip them off we can get them to stop and have stability and some proper competition and quality in our market instead of rabbid marketing and crazy gimicks (cars would be another great place to have that. They have new cars from dealers sub $7000 in europe and they are better than most of the $15k-$25k models we have to choose from here in USA. We're supposed to get some in 2010. Until then we get americanized Minis, americanized Toyota Vitzs, and americanized Smarts :roll: ).

More on topic: I hope the launch goes well for AMDTI :)  Even $380 is more than I want to spend though. Still waiting for x1950pro to drop in price here.
April 25, 2007 7:45:25 PM

Seriously, it depends on the vendor not on 1:1 ratios or such. If MSRP is like $14,999 for a car its almost never going to be that unless its the barebones. It's most likely $18,000.
April 25, 2007 7:47:49 PM

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I assume you mean hijack because I don't see how Sirkillalot getting a Dell would 'debunk' the thread.

Anywho, the Dell's are ok for bleeding, but if you care that much you need something LEDlit really IMO.


OK, back on topic, so how many brownies, lids and teas does this R600 work out to?

If I know that, then I can calculate relative local value. :twisted:


Brownies are a baseline valuator of currency in Canada? I knew there was something insidiously odd about our neighbors to the north...

Also... what is a "lid"?
April 25, 2007 7:53:23 PM

I think local value should be in Tim Hortons Large Coffees and toques, eh?
a b U Graphics card
April 25, 2007 8:04:02 PM

44 double-doubles, 27 Family packs of timbits, and 72 Blueberry Fritters. :twisted:
April 25, 2007 8:11:53 PM

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Thats the 320MB version though. I still think its going to be $425-475. I know Best Buy will probably sell at $475


Best Buy will probably sell it for $975!!!
:evil: 


then we all agree that we should NOT buy from Best buy!
a b U Graphics card
April 25, 2007 8:15:26 PM

You guys lost me at Brownies. :lol: 
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