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February 13, 2007 1:20:00 PM

I read a couple of post regarding XP Black Edition an I've even heard talk here about it, but when I went to torrentspy, alot of users commented about it being bundled with malware. Is there a cleaner version somewhere that you guys can testify to, or should I just keep XP until Vista matures.

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February 14, 2007 4:45:19 AM

You should purchase the software... then you don't have to worry about it being loaded with trojans, viruses, etc.
February 15, 2007 5:35:25 PM

With all the problems with Vista, it would be best that you wait till Vista matures and all the companies can catchup with drivers for it. :idea:
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March 2, 2007 4:40:51 AM

i actually use XP black... i dual boot it, and i like it. It runs well, and i like the UI. Very nice. Lots of nice software included as well....

HAvent noticed any viruses, spyware, or anything of the sort.

But as always, you should buy your software... honostly, you will always get the support you need.
March 19, 2007 3:39:34 PM

:?: I've heard very little on the subject. I will research it and repost.
March 20, 2007 9:33:46 AM

From the Ineternet I got the following :
Quote:
Office 2007 Enterprise
Acrobat 8.0
Photoshop CS2
Diskeeper 2007
OO Defrag 8.5.178
WindowBlind 5.04 Enhanced plus many new themes
Open Office 2.10
TuneUp Utilities 2007 English
Norton partition Magic 8.05
Registry Mechanic 6.2
IS****** 10
Microsoft Java VM Build 3809
Sun Java 2 Version5.0.6 W/SP2
Azureus 2.5.00
IE 7 Final Activated
Firefox 2.01
THunderbird 1.5.0.9
Opera 9.02
WsFTP Pro
BS Player Pro 2.12.942
Klite Codec Pack 2.80
Shockwave/Flashplayers
Win DVD 8 Platinum
WM Player 11
Nod32 2.57
ZoneAlarm 6.5.737.2006 Pro
ZoneAlarm Internet Security Suite 7.0.279 Beta (ROCKS!!)
Blindwrite 6.0.1.19 By eXperience
Nero 7.590A Premium Full
Nero 7.59 Lite
Poweriso 3.5
UltrIso 8.6.0.1936
DivX Create Bundle 6.4
Fraunhofer IIs MP3 Codec
Quicktime Alternative
Adaware SE Pro
Acrobat Reader
DVD DEcryptor
DVD2One
FlashFXP
GetRight
Magic Isomaker
PeerGuardian 2
VmWare 5.53
WinRAR
Winzip 10
Windows Vista RTM sidebar plus extra gadgets


Basically it is a pirate distro of XP with a lot of additional stuff (also pirated.) While it may not contain known viruses or malware, there is always a risk of custom created malware turning your system into a bot.

If you want a certain guarantee buy your software legally
March 20, 2007 4:07:44 PM

I have also come to the conclusion that it is not an operating system itself but merely just a theme, also known as the Zune Theme. This theme is a black/orange version of Media Centre edition.

You're welcome.
Hope that helped.
March 20, 2007 5:01:50 PM

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I have also come to the conclusion that it is not an operating system itself but merely just a theme, also known as the Zune Theme. This theme is a black/orange version of Media Centre edition.

You're welcome.
Hope that helped.


But it's not just a theme. As my post stated it is a total package windows +apps. True there is a theme manager there but i don't think it automatically changes the look (means user has to install it manually)

Anyway this is just speculation since i haven't tried it but everything seems to point to that.
March 20, 2007 5:02:40 PM

Hi :D 

I use Zune its freely available in the UK

click on image to zoom


Babe
May 26, 2007 5:52:59 AM

My neighbor mentioned this today. He's installed it as XP Pro 64 bit edition with all of the software mentioned. No malware, bots, etc. to mention and he loves it. I'm still a bit wary of using it, for a number of reasons, but he's working at a very high skill level.
June 12, 2007 10:00:15 PM

You know you shouldn't be posting links to warez here !!! :evil: 
September 24, 2007 8:52:33 PM

This thread has been marked for moderation.

I have removed the links to the warez. I welcome the option discussion about warez but I will not tolerate links being posted or flaming against reasonable answers.

Also, please feel free to use the Exclamation Mark to bring topics like this to a moderator's attention.

Thanks everyone.
December 16, 2007 8:34:02 PM

I am running black xp ver 6 ultimate and it runs sweet as. not had a problem with it, but I have vista in my labtop and it is the biggest pile of crap i have come across, wish I had never got a labtop with it on, it is a disaster waiting to happen
December 21, 2007 1:10:13 AM

XP Black is no more than a well thought out skin. In the most basic sense this is true.

Windows XP was designed to allow network administrators (and others who like to tweak with their software and hardware) to customize and automate installation for multiple installs (usually with multicomputer license on a network). Windows XP professional (the one I own, I don’t know about XP Home), on the installation disk, has instructions and files to customize and automate your install. Additionally, there are dozens of free and share ware programs available to increase this functionality beyond the standard (or modified) installation. Microsucks own packaging development tools are an example to be found at:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyI...

Windows XP Black is indeed a well thought out semi-unattended installation package. There is nothing illegal about this, in fact see this url for Microsucks own guided tour of how to create an install exactly like Windows XP Black:

http://unattended.msfn.org/unattended.xp/

With, of course, one exception: The CD-Key Code.

However, any mild tech and net (that’s internet, not .NET) savvy individual, could easily find the one file containing the instruction script for the XP install (WINNT.SIF) and edit the file (it is only a .txt file with a different extension) to include your own Windows XP CD-Key Code. Re-burn the DVD and voila you have a LEGITIMATE copy of windows XP with the “Black” skin and mods.

In theory (that is the “letter-of-the-law”) you cannot legally do this without violating copyright laws. However, Microsucks provides a walkthrough of exactly ho to do this, so they have provided their own work around for the copyright laws. It’s like copying your DVDs and CDs to back them up to protect your investment — theoretically it’s illegal, but software companies provide you the means (legally) to work around copy protections with their software and codecs.
January 2, 2008 12:44:34 PM

i downloaded xp black edition just out of curiosity, 'cos it does look pretty cool. i am fully aware of the trojans etc but i have faith in my virus checker.

i downloaded xp black as an iso, so i extracted the files onto my pc and burnt them onto a blank dvd. however, when i restarted my pc and changed the boot sequence to read from the dvd drive only, it doesn't pick the dvd up as being bootable, even tho i can see the autorun files on the dvd.
does anybody know how to create a bootable dvd from an iso file? any help would be much appreciated. ps i'm using poweriso and nero

cheers

funkyspaceman
January 7, 2008 3:39:45 PM

funkyspaceman said:
i downloaded xp black edition just out of curiosity, 'cos it does look pretty cool. i am fully aware of the trojans etc but i have faith in my virus checker.

i downloaded xp black as an iso, so i extracted the files onto my pc and burnt them onto a blank dvd. however, when i restarted my pc and changed the boot sequence to read from the dvd drive only, it doesn't pick the dvd up as being bootable, even tho i can see the autorun files on the dvd.
does anybody know how to create a bootable dvd from an iso file? any help would be much appreciated. ps i'm using poweriso and nero

cheers

funkyspaceman

it won't boot if ya just extract the files from the ISO, the ISO image needs to be burnt direct to disc, just open the image file from within Nero.
Then it will pop up a dialog box, set whatever options you want set, but best to leave it as the current settings are except for the burn speed and also make sure you checkmark the box to confirm data verification.
January 22, 2008 2:36:31 AM

meman887 said:
it won't boot if ya just extract the files from the ISO, the ISO image needs to be burnt direct to disc, just open the image file from within Nero.
Then it will pop up a dialog box, set whatever options you want set, but best to leave it as the current settings are except for the burn speed and also make sure you checkmark the box to confirm data verification.


I have tried both:
1-burned directly from nero express from the iso image option,without chaning anything (but with "confirm data verification" box unchecked)
2-then I mounted the iso file to daemon, copied them to a dvd on nero express, and burned by selecting the bootable cd (nero detected that it was not a cd, and turned to dvd, asking me to select something, some boot default file or so, but with one single option. I just "went the straight way" and burned)

result: in both dvds, I get some strange dos version caldera or so when booting, and though I have c and d, and the dvd drive is e, it just sees c, and thinks d is the dvd drive...

what could/should I do?? just open the dvd in windows, and install it from there??
February 1, 2008 12:36:57 AM

making a bootable windows xp boot disc is a pain in the butt.

The best thing you can do though is pick up nlite. http://www.nliteos.com/

This will allow you to make additions to the iso, slipstream services packs drivers etc. but it will also handle the issue of getting an iso bootable.

There are other ways, like getting iso buster, getting an original xp install disc, grabbing the bootable information, then using nero etc etc. it is a real pain.

Just use nlite. Save yourself some trouble.
March 13, 2008 7:45:31 PM

Udnuttin said:
XP Black is no more than a well thought out skin. In the most basic sense this is true.

Windows XP was designed to allow network administrators (and others who like to tweak with their software and hardware) to customize and automate installation for multiple installs (usually with multicomputer license on a network). Windows XP professional (the one I own, I don’t know about XP Home), on the installation disk, has instructions and files to customize and automate your install. Additionally, there are dozens of free and share ware programs available to increase this functionality beyond the standard (or modified) installation. Microsucks own packaging development tools are an example to be found at:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyI...

Windows XP Black is indeed a well thought out semi-unattended installation package. There is nothing illegal about this, in fact see this url for Microsucks own guided tour of how to create an install exactly like Windows XP Black:

http://unattended.msfn.org/unattended.xp/

With, of course, one exception: The CD-Key Code.

However, any mild tech and net (that’s internet, not .NET) savvy individual, could easily find the one file containing the instruction script for the XP install (WINNT.SIF) and edit the file (it is only a .txt file with a different extension) to include your own Windows XP CD-Key Code. Re-burn the DVD and voila you have a LEGITIMATE copy of windows XP with the “Black” skin and mods.

In theory (that is the “letter-of-the-law”) you cannot legally do this without violating copyright laws. However, Microsucks provides a walkthrough of exactly ho to do this, so they have provided their own work around for the copyright laws. It’s like copying your DVDs and CDs to back them up to protect your investment — theoretically it’s illegal, but software companies provide you the means (legally) to work around copy protections with their software and codecs.


OK, I'm not sure, but I think a lot of you posting on this thread either don't have much experience with not only slipstreaming, but automated application silent installs. XP Black Edition, as of this writing, version 10 is 8 GB and burns to a DVD DL disc. In fact it is a bit oversized, and I have yet to find a way to burn it even with overburning options. DL isn't too overburnable from what I've read on several forums, and even if so, it requires a burner that allows for overburning of this format.

I downloaded Black XP 10, and extracted it to disk, to trim some of the files out. After scanning, 10 virus were found in keygens for multiple products, as well as silent installers for other products. After removing all references to the infected software, I was able to fit the resulting ISO onto one DL disc. Black XP 10 uses WPI (Windows Post Install) to install applications. You pick the apps you want it to install, and it installs them silently, including the necessary keys. It's not just some "theme". In fact the themes used are based on Stardock's Window Blinds software, and a ton of themes are included, however Stardock's software was loaded with trojans, so I removed it, personally.

One of the things I did not like about the install was the excessive use of transformation packs to make it look like Vista. In fact there were a couple of WPI's, the first was to apply all the transformation packs, so it may be possible to bypass all the Vista crap by choosing not to install any of it, I'll have to give it another go later. If I want Vista, I'll install Vista. Keep it XP for crying out loud. In addition to many transformation packs, there are Vista icon packs, logon software and sidebar to make it look just like Vista. Waste of time and system resources if you ask me. I'll be modifying my build of Black XP to exclude all that crap. WPI is very easy to work with to remove menu items, just double click on WPI.hta to configure the menus and remove the excess and delete the application from the folder indicated under the menu configuration, mostly under the install folder.

All in all, it is a very nice, up to date, collection of software with automated installation. So the thing I like about it, is the ability to autorun the CD on an existing version of XP, and install all the software you need in one pass. For this reason alone, it is worth the download.

In addition to the spyware and virus found on the build, one of the infected files was found in the windows\system32 folder called HideCMD.exe. This, coupled with a user account that was created by default with administrative privileges, seems pretty dangerous to me. Deleted the user account, disabled the administrator account and renamed the account I was logging in under and set a password on it. I recommend anyone else do the same.

Please research before just posting what you speculate to be the case. As for not being bootable, I had similar issues after shaving down the distro, so nLite is your friend. Use it, love it, simple.
April 16, 2008 3:50:10 PM

hello i been using black xp for 2 year now .# 1 it 20x faster then xp and vista .# 2 need to use the right tool to burn the image file not just copy them .# 3 all the tool like side bar and RL bar will not slow down the computer at all .#4 their is no trojans, viruses, etc.at all your viruses tool will only pick out the keygem this is not a trojans, viruses, etc..# if you want real info and help about this super op then go here www.deploymentcommunity.com. you will be glad you did .so s--t on m$ .alot of post here on bxp are all wrong ..thank ,a happy bxp using for 2 year now .black xp is at ver 14 not on 4.7 gig
April 17, 2008 1:41:13 AM

rachana said:
hello i been using black xp for 2 year now .# 1 it 20x faster then xp and vista .

What did you smoke before posting this? 20x faster??? Are you nuts? :pt1cable: 

If anything at all its guaranteed to be slower just by all the extra crap it adds. :sarcastic: 
April 17, 2008 9:01:17 AM

Anyway my XP install CD is not reading again so I downloaded one incase I need one in the future. It has a black install screen instead of the standard blue one when the CD boots and installs the RAID devices. Is thia XP black edition? The file size is similar to normal XP and SP2 on a CD so I can't see how there is loads of crap bundles with my copy.
April 25, 2008 1:04:36 PM

Just stumbled on your post. Yeah I'm familiar with XP Black. It's basically a trimmed down version of XP. I remember reading posts by it's author talking about the unneeded crap that he cut out of a regular XP Pro installation to create it. And yeah, those who use it all seem to claim it runs much faster than standard XP. Please don't tell me that I should run out and buy XP. I bought and paid for Windows XP way back when it first came out. I can no longer get a working installation off my disk though, and the only option Microsoft gave me was to repurchase another copy... not gonna happen. I'll make no comment about about the things the author bundled it back up with, but yeah everyone who I've heard from that uses it claims that it runs much much faster than standard. I'm thinking about trying it myself. Wanted to leave my condolences over the abusive replies you got such as the one claiming you must be smoking something. Hope such posters always remain in their ignorance, while they pat themselves on the back for how savvy they are.
April 25, 2008 1:30:31 PM

"After scanning, 10 virus were found in keygens"

Seems like every keygen I've ever scanned popped a virus flag, though did nothing harmful to my comp.
April 25, 2008 3:42:16 PM

Okay, I had to catch up on the whole subject. Forget Black XP, it's rather being left behind now. There's a better streamlined XP out. It's called Vision XP. Also, it doesn't come with a whole bunch of pirated ware. I'm not advocating pirating anything. I've paid Microsoft to use XP, and I'm gonna assume that others have as well.
May 1, 2008 4:23:28 PM

Wow guys!
why debate the isuse.
B Xp is writer buy many people but the originals have been writen with
unchanged XP copys with a WPI that with assist the tweeks/changes etc.
I beleave it is ifaster a little bu there are some many things that change the speed, amount of partictions, locatrion and amount of apps and fragmintations ect. I used it fo a few years and will not use others 14 it very good depending on your needs- little large but good for me.
May 16, 2008 2:14:37 PM

XP Black 8 is fine, other than some of the less than useful software that comes with it.

Keygens are always recognized as virus by many av scanners. It works A-OK if you ask me.

I have an idea, just use Ubuntu 8.04. Then you get all the "pretty" of vista, better performance with less hardware footprint (it SCREAMS on a P4 2.6/512mb compaq...), oh, and then you don't have to pirate everything because IT'S ALL FREE!!! I hate to make my first post something like this, but C'mon this is an easy one. Oh, and Ubuntu forums has an answer for just about any issue you come up with. So where is the problem? Take a week to learn the new software and you'll be glad you did. Nero costs ~$100, K3B does exactly the same thing, except IT'S FREE...

Peace
SJ

July 20, 2008 5:20:51 AM

Hi, ive had XP Black for about 6 months now. It works great. I had gotten the CD from a friend who had burned it. basically, xp black is just xp, with a slightly modified GUI, some fully cracked software and windowblinds. You can just not use windowblinds and it will look almost exactly like XP. another thing great about it is that with the automated install, you can choose exactly what you want and dont want, including GUI modifications. The version that i have has no viruses, malware, or trojans on it that i have found. the only problem i have is that the stupid sidebar ( i thought it was cool when i tried it out on vista, turns out its not that cool) sometimes gives an error which is easily debugged. other than that, this is simply just a slightly modified XP with a bunch of pirated software.
July 20, 2008 3:44:51 PM

funkyspaceman said:
i downloaded xp black edition just out of curiosity, 'cos it does look pretty cool. i am fully aware of the trojans etc but i have faith in my virus checker.

i downloaded xp black as an iso, so i extracted the files onto my pc and burnt them onto a blank dvd. however, when i restarted my pc and changed the boot sequence to read from the dvd drive only, it doesn't pick the dvd up as being bootable, even tho i can see the autorun files on the dvd.
does anybody know how to create a bootable dvd from an iso file? any help would be much appreciated. ps i'm using poweriso and nero

cheers

funkyspaceman


here is the link for boot.ima file use this file in boot tab of nero and burn the cd/dvd... It worked for me...

http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/sf/m/mg/mgos3/BOOT.I...

or find boot.ima here

http://www.tacktech.com/display.cfm?ttid=297
September 19, 2008 2:10:40 AM

I've been using Black Windows XP for months now. You said you saw some people post that there are Trojans on there.
It's because some of the - not so great - anti virus programs flag false positives on some of the key generators and cracks which are included in the O.S. package as malicious software. It is all clean (at least the one I downloaded). If you want to be paranoid, you can scan the iso before burning it, and after scan remove all the threats (can do this with AVG and some other anti viruses).

Anyhow, the new 23 build of Black XP runs excellent, and I very much prefer it over vista and over the regular Windows XP.

I encourage everyone to give it a try.

Cheers
- Paul
September 21, 2008 10:51:28 PM

Hiya Guys :) 

I've got one question - I've got SATA disk (thus Vista installed :D ), and I know that XP doesn't have drivers for this kind of disks, though you can install XP on sata, but it's quite longer process as proper drivers are needed prior to system installation.
Does the XP Black go with SATA drivers?
TIA
:) 
September 22, 2008 3:35:16 PM

Nikky said:
Hiya Guys :) 

I've got one question - I've got SATA disk (thus Vista installed :D ), and I know that XP doesn't have drivers for this kind of disks, though you can install XP on sata, but it's quite longer process as proper drivers are needed prior to system installation.
Does the XP Black go with SATA drivers?
TIA
:) 

SATA works just fine with XP. you dont need drivers for XP/SATA unless you are running in a raid mode.

SATA was out long before Vista. I dont know what gave you this idea that SATA means Vista but its wrong.
September 23, 2008 2:48:36 AM

might want to check your link. i dont know what a panasonic toughbook has to do with either sata drivers or xp black edition.

xp black edition has a lot of built in sata drivers.

i say again, if there is only one sata drive in your system then the built in sata/ide driver will work perfectly. you will only need additional drivers if you have some sort of raid array.

you do not need additional drivers for a system with only one sata hard drive.
September 23, 2008 10:11:42 PM

sandmanwn said:
might want to check your link. i dont know what a panasonic toughbook has to do with either sata drivers or xp black edition.

xp black edition has a lot of built in sata drivers.

i say again, if there is only one sata drive in your system then the built in sata/ide driver will work perfectly. you will only need additional drivers if you have some sort of raid array.

you do not need additional drivers for a system with only one sata hard drive.


I can see your message ;) 
but sorry, I think you're wrong

never mind
best regards
September 24, 2008 1:23:05 AM

thinking and knowing are two different worlds.

im not asking the questions here. you are.

ive used black edition for many years and i know, but keep thinking whatever you wish. the answer might illuminate your search for the answer you want to see eventually.
October 8, 2008 4:19:53 PM

well lets start with ,,theres alot of xp black editions and they are all not filled with malware and etc. cause i use three different editions and i have not had any problems all they are is xp pro modified now dont get me wrong there are some editions that are malware and those are very easy to tell but all in all xp black is very nice to have and makes ur computer look alot better ,,well hope this helps if u need help just let me know
November 14, 2008 10:40:40 PM

Ok i need help, hope this topic is still looked at. I have all the files from Fullandfree.com all the interchangable ones. and i am still haveing issues getting xp black to work. And i am a modest computer guy. this is still new to me on how to use BIOS and all that. i jsut know how to upgrade so now i am learning how to restore them.
November 15, 2008 1:58:19 PM

Why do people expect help with Pirate Software?
Anonymous
December 7, 2008 4:34:01 PM

I am running XP Black as we speek. I am running it on a dual partition next to vista.It has all the stability of XP pro and alot of the xtras that vista has.It is not just a skin it is a complex merge of the two os.It comes with quite abit of extra software plus it auto updates and is seen as genuine.This is a must have for anyone considering vista It blows vista and XP out of the water!!If microsoft was as smart as the think they are they would take pointers from the developer of XP Black Ultimate. Yes it is a pirate but the version that I am using is clean and stable. no reboot isues like vista but alot of xtra security like vista ultimate.All in All I 100% approve of XP black big thumbs up!!
December 8, 2008 12:23:36 AM

I just put XP black on one of the computers I maintain, and it is working great, except I can't get it to find the LAN network all the other computers around are on. I removed some of the bundled software, but a lot of it I like, although it took me some time to get used to them. The computer I put it on has a vaild Vista license, but due in part to the low RAM on it, Vista is not pleasant to run. If anyone has any ideas as to why the local network isn't showing up, please enlighten me, but beyond that consider this a post that XP black is sweet, and I haven't been hit with any noticeable spyware/malware.
~Scott
December 8, 2008 4:46:49 PM

another version i can recommend is XP Pro Performance Edition October 2008
which is available from a swedish site we all know.

honestly the fastest installation of xp i have ever seen.
January 2, 2009 12:41:41 AM

hey guys how can i get XP Black Edition can any body please let me know you can send an e-mail to me at spiderweb80@ymail.com thanks
January 2, 2009 5:43:52 AM

Oh and incidentally... sometimes you do need SATA drivers even with a single hard drive installed. Some older boards that included a third-party SATA controller or SATA added in as an afterthought (Asus A8V motherboard, for example). These boards required additional drivers to allow installation of XP.

Now, with a lot of motherboards having native SATA support... you usually don't need additional drivers upon install as long as you're not running in RAID mode.
Anonymous
January 23, 2009 12:31:56 PM

Are in the image any viruses or spyware and how can I delete them?
I don´t want to crash my os again. :cry: 

Anonymous
January 24, 2009 5:22:16 AM

I am actually looking for another copy of this os, I lost my copy in the move. I read most of the posts in this thread; and I never had any problem with my version, it was fantastic. Was the versions you all had running on Corporate edition, like the one I had? I got mine from torrentdmg, no longer a member, could anyone recommend a good copy for me?

`Nbryson
January 24, 2009 5:40:48 PM

Take your trusted full copy of XP (legit or not) and customize it using nLite. Software is very intuitive and easy to use. If you do it yourself you know exactly what is going into it.
January 26, 2009 12:37:22 PM

Is there an x64 version of it? I've always loved BLACK XP but I didn't get it this time knowing it was 32bit. But everyone here is talking about so many versions I didn't even know about. Just wondering if an x64 existed.
Anonymous
January 26, 2009 11:40:53 PM

sometimes i wonde what people reall want, you give them mac they complain, xp they complain,vista they complain,linux they complain, what the hell you people want, :pfff: 
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