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Best ram for overclocking GIGABYTE GA-965P-DS3?

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April 26, 2007 8:48:42 PM

I'm new to this site and over-clocking.
Tons of great information on these forums. :) 

I just wanted some experienced opinions.
I'm planning on ordering some parts this weekend.
I was going to get the GIGABYTE GA-965P-DS3 mother board, and a Core 2 duo e6600 intell chip. I plan on overclocking this chip to 3.0Ghz with the help of a ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler.

I was planning on ordering G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-6400CL5D-2GBNQ from newegg.com. Would that be the proper RAM for my intended over-clock from 2.4-3.0Ghz?
I couldn't find any specific timming that I would need for 3.0Ghz over clock.

Should I go with a different brand? Anyone use this memory in over-clock?
Any opinions good or bad are helpfull to me at this point.
Thanks everyone.
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April 26, 2007 11:14:02 PM

Problem with that thread, and perhaps yours is that too many people who don't run that board (DS3) are proffering recommendations. I originally posted that thread so that primarily users of the GB DS3 could post what has worked and perhaps what didn't.

Hopefully, this thread will be more successful. Let me know if people who don't run the DS3 continue to post the "I think this will work" type recommendations. I'll make a point to keep an eye on it.
April 26, 2007 11:54:53 PM

Technically I don't even care if I get the "best" ram for that board.
I just want Ram that will work good without any issues, and will
a) work on initial boot even if settings need to be changed in the BIOS
b) allow me to over-clock the e6600 to a modest 3.0Ghz
c) be reasonably priced

Hopefully a few people that run the board and over-clock will post what RAM they are successfully using.

This is the RAM I was going to get.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E1682...
I saw it in the other thread as well.

Thanks
April 27, 2007 12:59:06 AM

did anyone check out newegg's Memory Configurator System Tool
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April 27, 2007 3:05:48 PM

I put that exact memory in a buddy's e6400 setup in a DS3 and worked just fine. No overclock though. I would recommend getting memory with a little tighter timing. Like one of these from g.Skill. They are only $15 or $45 more but the timing is much better.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You actually could clock your memory at 667 and try to tighten up the timing because at 3GHz your FSB would be 333 and if you set the divider/multiplier for the memory at (2, or 1:1, both the same depending on what the settings show on your MB) you would be running PC5300 speed instead of PC6400. This is actually probably a better setup because you don't have the off sync timing and lower latency 667 at 1:1 would probably do better than off-sync 800 running a divider.

Im not sure if you are on a budget or not that is why i threw that other memory in there.

By the way G.skill is actually pretty good memory and at their prices you can't beat it.
April 27, 2007 11:12:34 PM

I got a DS3 last summer, and it's served me well ever since. It was a good price then so you should be able to get a real bargain on one now. I got a 1gb stick of Corsair XMS2 667mhz RAM, which was rated at 4-4-4-12. It makes for an excellent overclocking combination, with my E6300, as the board lets the RAM get up to 940mhz with timings only relaxed to 5-5-5-12. The processor can comfortably manage a 70 overclock too, so as far as I can tell you can't go wrong with it. I have heard that some fast RAM modules need 2.2v to get going, and the boards default is 1.8, but I think that if you get some similar RAM to mine, (I'd go with some 800mhz stuff though as its a lot cheaper now), you will have a little more overclocking headroom.
April 30, 2007 2:15:57 PM

Quote:
I put that exact memory in a buddy's e6400 setup in a DS3 and worked just fine. No overclock though. I would recommend getting memory with a little tighter timing. Like one of these from g.Skill. They are only $15 or $45 more but the timing is much better.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You actually could clock your memory at 667 and try to tighten up the timing because at 3GHz your FSB would be 333 and if you set the divider/multiplier for the memory at (2, or 1:1, both the same depending on what the settings show on your MB) you would be running PC5300 speed instead of PC6400. This is actually probably a better setup because you don't have the off sync timing and lower latency 667 at 1:1 would probably do better than off-sync 800 running a divider.

Im not sure if you are on a budget or not that is why i threw that other memory in there.

By the way G.skill is actually pretty good memory and at their prices you can't beat it.

What is the difference between the two Gskill memory kits you linked... besided the $20.

I just bought the cheaper one (your first link).

Anyhow, I'll report back on that Ram and the DS3 board in a week or so...
May 2, 2007 5:28:15 PM

Placed my order to Newegg.com on monday.

Here is what I got.

DVD_BURN SAMSUNG|SH-S182M/BEBM BK 1 $31.99
HD 250G|WD 7K 16M SATA2 WD2500KS 1 $69.99
CPUCOOLER|ARCTIC P4|ACFZ7-PRO R 1 $59.99
MB GIGABYTE GA-965P-DS3 P965 775 1 $124.99
CASE APEVIA(ASP)|ATXA8NW-AL/500 S/B 1 $149.99
VGA EVGA 512-P2-N548-TX 7600GS R 1 $112.99
MEM 1Gx2|G.SKILL F2-6400PHU2-2GBHZ 1 $154.99
CPU INTEL|C2D E6600 2.4G 775 4M R 1 $230.00

I am hoping to have this stuff by the weekend.
Hopefully I can start putting it together and installing stuff soon.
I am away this weekend, but hopefully I can post some updates next week.

Thanks for the responses guys.
May 2, 2007 7:24:03 PM

I can confirm that the aformentioned Gskill is compatible with the DS3... no tweaks necessary. :lol: 

This weekend, I'll overclock the e4300 -let you guys know.
May 2, 2007 8:50:07 PM

Well, I see you've placed your order. Guess I'm too late then, but perhaps for others reading this thread... Nothing wrong with your components that I can see, by the way. Built a similar system myself recently, OK DS4 (rev. 3.3), not DS3, but perhaps close enough to be relevant? Got Crucial Ballistix PC6400 (800MHz) RAM, which I'm running at 2.1V as per spec. No problem. Motherboard originally defaulted to 1.8V with relaxed timings. Also no problem. Tried it at 1000MHz (333MHz FSB * 3) with relaxed 5-5-5-15 timings. Still no problem. Now running with 400MHz FSB, 1:1 800MHz memory (2.1V) and 1.375V on the CPU for 8x400 = 3.2GHz. Stable.

The ease with which all this could be done has taken me aback. You may be worrying too much ... certainly I did. I think you could get away spending less, like many in these forums are already doing, and get an equally powerful system. Minus a few intangibles like virtualisation. Were I to do it again I would probably go for the 1.8GHz Allendale and shoot for 3.0GHz with 333FSB and 667MHz memory. Everything else being equal, I think you'll want to run the memory 1:1. It seems to be marginally recommended for speed and stability. This means you only really need faster memory, if you want/need to push the FSB speed.
May 2, 2007 9:42:34 PM

I'm new to the overclocking thing.

So if I can get to 3.0Ghz with low temps and very stable, I will be very happy. Not sure what settings I need to achieve that. I guess I have more reading to do. :) 
Any recommendations?
May 2, 2007 9:54:49 PM

I still say the geil. lol Yes i didn't overclock it, but it works great in the ds3 board. My friend who is a gamer has an E6600 with that board and i made him a geil fan. Not saying it is best overclocker , cause frankly i don't know, but runs great. And if you look around the net there is some articles on it being overclocked and seems to do well. just incase you didn't look at other thread.
geil

I wouldn't recommend if i didn't use it myself and considering me and my friend had good luck i asume they are decent. My opinion. :p 
May 2, 2007 11:28:39 PM

I've got Corsair Value Select DDR2 667 at 5-5-5-15 OCing my E4300 on the Gigabyte 965P-DS3. Rock stable at 2.97Ghz.

EDIT: Additional specs.

My board is Rev 3.3 and the ram is the 2*1Gb kit of Corsair Value Select
May 3, 2007 12:45:50 PM

Hi guys, i also own 1 of this mobo...
the problem is my cousin bought me some stupid 2gb kingston value ram
667mhz n cl5 timing... how much can i oc?? realy frustrated...
i told him to buy me a pair of corsair...
May 3, 2007 3:14:01 PM

Impressive.
What settings would you recommend for a 3.0ghz over clock?

Quote:
Well, I see you've placed your order. Guess I'm too late then, but perhaps for others reading this thread... Nothing wrong with your components that I can see, by the way. Built a similar system myself recently, OK DS4 (rev. 3.3), not DS3, but perhaps close enough to be relevant? Got Crucial Ballistix PC6400 (800MHz) RAM, which I'm running at 2.1V as per spec. No problem. Motherboard originally defaulted to 1.8V with relaxed timings. Also no problem. Tried it at 1000MHz (333MHz FSB * 3) with relaxed 5-5-5-15 timings. Still no problem. Now running with 400MHz FSB, 1:1 800MHz memory (2.1V) and 1.375V on the CPU for 8x400 = 3.2GHz. Stable.

The ease with which all this could be done has taken me aback. You may be worrying too much ... certainly I did. I think you could get away spending less, like many in these forums are already doing, and get an equally powerful system. Minus a few intangibles like virtualisation. Were I to do it again I would probably go for the 1.8GHz Allendale and shoot for 3.0GHz with 333FSB and 667MHz memory. Everything else being equal, I think you'll want to run the memory 1:1. It seems to be marginally recommended for speed and stability. This means you only really need faster memory, if you want/need to push the FSB speed.
May 3, 2007 3:35:33 PM

LOL i just got above 3ghz totally stable!!!! ds3 rocks!!!
May 3, 2007 3:39:07 PM

still cant believe i got 3ghz with some dumbass ram XD
May 3, 2007 7:00:59 PM

Should I get the same RAM compatibility with DS3 rev. 1.3? I bought that one to save some money, so I'm hoping I can get similar results.
May 3, 2007 7:39:34 PM

Does anyone know if there is a big difference between 3.0 and 3.2Ghz with this motherboard and the e6600?
May 3, 2007 7:50:30 PM

I got 400fsb on a ds3 3.3 with ddr800 geil. Had to up the voltage by 0.2 from the 1.8 default to keep it stable, but its fine now.

Since youve already bought your ram, hope it gives you the results you want and it all goes smoothly :) 
May 3, 2007 8:13:34 PM

According to the tracking numbers, the parts came today.
Damn, newegg is fast!!

I should have a little time tonight to start assembly of the hardware.
I'm so excited!! :D 
Like a kid on christmas.
May 3, 2007 8:42:33 PM

Quote:
Impressive.
What settings would you recommend for a 3.0ghz over clock?

I'm not near my PC right now ... there is an overclocking guide in these forums ... a few tips from memory:

Gigabyte deliver an easy "just key in the speed you want" type overclocking program. I haven't tried it, but went into the BIOS settings instead. On the main BIOS screen hit Ctrl-F1. This should unlock otherwise hidden settings in the sub-menus (if DS3 = DS4). Might look for the EIST option and disable it. If enabled CPU multiplier and voltage will automatically drop when CPU is idle. I actually left it enabled and it still works for me, just picked up this tip from the forums.

Overclocking options have their own BIOS sub-menu. Unlock the FSB speed option and set to 333MHz. Set memory timings and voltage to whatever recommended for your memory. Might leave it at 666MHz for your first try, then play around with it later. Might up CPU voltage to 1.375 (I did), but is reported to work at stock voltage (1.325) up to 3GHz in many cases. Anything over 1.425 and it will start getting seriously hot under load, but that should not be necessary.

Get Intel Thermal Analysis Tool, TAT.EXE from Internet. In my albeit limited experience this will stress test the CPU the quickest way. Windows may boot, but this tool will bring your system down pretty quickly, if it isn't 100% stable. Also it monitors the temps of the 2 individual cores, which is better than the Gigabyte tool. Temps up to mid 60s C should be OK under full load. Idle is mid 30s with my PC.

If bad. config, Gigabyte board will cycle through a handful of boot attempts, then disable the FSB overclock (at least DS4 F8 BIOS). Check with TAT.EXE that you are actually still overclocked. It did that once when I had mine set to 3GHz.
May 3, 2007 9:01:19 PM

The above post was helpful.
Thank you. The temperature range information is helpful.

There needs to be a sticky in the forums that lists each chip, and the settings people are using to get to certain Ghz with their hardware.

That would make life very easy for us noobies. :D 
May 3, 2007 9:08:52 PM

i would get some xms as it is really cheap right now and overclocks like a bastard
May 4, 2007 6:36:05 AM

i got 430+ fsb on ga ds3 with 2gb of stupid kingston with cl5 timings and 667mhz~
May 4, 2007 2:17:19 PM

All the parts arrived yesterday (newegg rules).
Put the machine together and installed the XP pro.

Going to try to finish installing all the other crap I have to install this weekend. THen I will mess with overclocking.

Bottom line the Ram I bought
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
worked fine on initial boot with the DS3 3.3 mother board.

DAMN! price of the memory dropped $23 in 2 days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ah

I'll update again when I overclock, or if I experience any other issues. So far I am very happy granted it is at stock speed.
May 7, 2007 1:53:30 PM

I have the CPU overclocked to 2.997Ghz and have not experienced any issues yet.

Followed the instructions on the sticky and disabled all the crap in the BIOS. I set the bus to 333mhz, and memory is at 4-4-4-12.
I left all the voltages at stock levels and everything seems to be chipper.
Is that normal? Should I have had to raise the voltages?

I ran orthos for 20 minutes and there were no issues. I can run it longer tonight.
However I installed COD2 and played for a couple hours and I haven't had any problems yet.
The best part the CPU temps are cold!

Maybe I should move this post as a new thread in the overclocking forum.
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