EDIT: Since I wrote the below post, I have lapped my ultra-120 x as well as lapped my Q6600. The decrease in temps have been amazing for about 5 hours of careful lapping, and $20 worth of sandpaper. The most recent temp data can be found the q6600 lapping post. I will say that after a few days of load/idle, the temps have dropped even more as the AS5 breaks in. Also, I discovered I don't need to run with a 1.310 vcore to keep the 9x333 stable. It's been stable now for >5 h on 2x orthos with a vcore of 1.3250 in the BIOS which is, according to CPU-Z and speedfan, 1.232 under load, and 1.260 @ idle.
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Finally got all the parts and the system is built.
Current settings are stock (9x266 and mem is 1:1).
I have four copies of orthos running small FFT and I split the CPU affinity evenly between the core. I get 100 % CPU usages across all 4 cores. I have been running Small FFTs test on each copy of orthos for an hour now. Here are my temps, please let me know if I understand this correctly:
Speedfan: 39-45C (coolest core and hottest core); system temp is 33C
TAT: CPU0 temp is 60 and CPU1 temp is 57.
So the speedfan is giving me tcase = temp at heat spreader and values are 39-45C and anything under 50 is "good."
TAT is giving me tjunction = temp within the cores and values are 60 and 57 and anything under 65 is "good."
Am I understanding this correctly and would you consider these good temps for a stock q6600? I will try an O/C once I figure out the BIOS and which settings I need to use.
I'm having mixed results with it actually. I have been up at 4-4-4-12 @ 9x333 for about 12 h then for no reason it rebooted. I'm @ 4-4-4-13 @ 9x333 now testing. It's certainly not a heat issue.
Keep us up to date bro. I have all my new parts (in sig), but havent assembled it yet. You get us the OC settings on air, then Ill go from there on my water set-up. Peace
Yeah, 9x333 @ 4-4-4-12 is perfectly stable. Coretemp was crashing my machine. I have since switched to TAT and haven't experienced a problem. I suspect I can push it beyond 9x333 since my hottest core is <65 C but I don't care really. 3.0 GHz x 4 cores is pretty darn fast
By the way, I didn't change anything in the BIOS beyond the FSB and the mem timing, voltages are all stock values as are all the stuff "they" recommend you disable like C1E, speedstep, etc.
By the way, I didn't change anything in the BIOS beyond the FSB and the mem timing, voltages are all stock values as are all the stuff "they" recommend you disable like C1E, speedstep, etc.
Hi, just finished my build last week with a Q6600.
What I found was there are certain holes that if found you can get a good overclock.
I'm at 1535 FSB, x9 on multiplier, buss-384, core-3454.
memory unlinked crucial Ballistic DDR2 8000 4-4-4-12 @1000, volts 2.2
CPU FSB voltage raised to 1.5. CPU core in auto 1.39 in bios but shows 1.26 in windows.
super pi, 1m-14.765
super pi, 32m-15.55.297
Max temperature is 61C running dual prime95's.
So try some higher FSB settings, I could not even get into windows at 1400 but 1500 went right in.
This is all stable with 6 hrs prime95, and just finished playing 3 hours Call of Duty on line. I have the EVGA 122-ck-nf68 a1 board.[/img]
Speedfan: 39-45C (coolest core and hottest core); system temp is 33C
TAT: CPU0 temp is 60 and CPU1 temp is 57.
So the speedfan is giving me tcase = temp at heat spreader and values are 39-45C and anything under 50 is "good."
TAT is giving me tjunction = temp within the cores and values are 60 and 57 and anything under 65 is "good."
What's your ambient temperature?
I am interested in getting the Q6600, but I have heard that they can get pretty hot. That's a little worrying for me, as I live in a place where it gets very hot in summer.
I am interested in getting the Q6600, but I have heard that they can get pretty hot. That's a little worrying for me, as I live in a place where it gets very hot in summer.
I can't remember what room temp was when I posted this. Lately here it has been 75-78F in the room which is I think 23C-24C or so? When I first built the machine it was closer to 65F in the room. If your room temps are that high, you'll definitely want to invest in a well ventilated case like the P182.
I edited the first post in this series, but decided to write it here too just to update the community:
Since I wrote this post about 1-1/2 weeks ago, I have lapped my ultra-120 x as well as lapped my Q6600. The decrease in temps have been amazing for about 5 hours of careful lapping, and $20 worth of sandpaper. The most recent temp data can be found the q6600 lapping post. I will say that after a few days of load/idle, the temps have dropped even more as the AS5 breaks in. Also, I discovered I don't need to run with a 1.310 vcore to keep the 9x333 stable. It's been stable now for >5 h on 2x orthos with a vcore of 1.3250 in the BIOS which is, according to CPU-Z and speedfan, 1.232 under load, and 1.260 @ idle.
I'll run the same x264 encode I did in the threads above with the new vcore tomorrow and post the results in a new thread.
So whats the maximum temperature that you can take a q6600 to? Mine is at 38C right now in a Thermaltake Armor with a mini typhoon heatsink, only OC'ed right now to about 2.63. I would like to take it to 2.8 or 3.0.
Dunno about the max temp. I've had it up to 9x400 and it rebooted after about 50 minutes. I was ignorant about vcore when I did this and left it to auto. I also wasn't logging the vcore. I'm happy running 9x333 and having load temps under 45C -- that's really fast enough for me
have you done anything with the vcore at this point or do you still have it at auto? Also what method of cooling are you using? I might give your way a try, just want to make sure my mini typhoon will do its job right.
Manually set my vcore 1.3250 in bios and temps have dropped by an average of 3.5 C (7 %) across all 4 cores. It's stable as judged by 2x orthos for > 5h doing small FFTs. If I drop it to 1.3000 in the BIOS, one of the orthos gives a math error after 40 min or so. I can obviously go back and select the intermediate voltage (1.3125) but this is fine for me.
I've been playing around with my Q6600 for a few weeks here are a few tips:
I don't know about the 680i borads but the P965's seem to have some FSB "holes." Here are a few numbers that I have found to work well.
330Mhz x 9
375MHz x 9
401Mhz x 8 (400 wouldn't post) 401 like magic
425MHz x 8 worked but haven't tested stability
All of the above with the exception of 425 (just haven't had time yet) have been stable running F@H for several days. Much tougher than prime95 and Orthos.
I'll post voltage settings, observed temps and more details later... (took forever to get registration email and I need to run)
I don't know about the 680i borads but the P965's seem to have some FSB "holes." Here are a few numbers that I have found to work well.
330Mhz x 9
375MHz x 9
401Mhz x 8 (400 wouldn't post) 401 like magic
425MHz x 8 worked but haven't tested stability
You mentioned that 400 didn't POST, but 401 did. What are you using to determine that these work well? In other words, why 9x300 and not 9x333?
HI supaMASS, Think I was one of the first to find these sweet holes and report.
I'm currently running 384X9, (3454 core), 1535 FSB and everything is stable so far. I just did a bios update on my EVGA A1 and doing some stress test as I write with orthos and superpi 32 m same time. My temps will get a little high 60-61c when I run dual orthos one set at affinity 0-1 cpu and the other 2-3 cpu.
It's really funny how 1435 FSB will not work but go to 1535 and your in.
I don't know if it is the FSB or actual cpu core speed, where the holes are at.
I'm thinking it is the cpu with the quads that have a sweet spot. Finding it and stable is a lot of work.
I would be interested in what voltages you end up at even though we have different boards.
I don't remember where I read about the holes, but as an example the post said 401 works and 400 doesn't. I had been trying to get 400 from the third day I had the CPU and tried every combination of volatge settings, bios options, memory ratios, timings, even memory brands. No matter what I tried couldn't even get 400 to post. It seemed to good to be true (too easy). I set to 401 and boom first try!
It's my understanding that the "holes" are board issues not CPU as newer boards and bios updates have fixed some of these issues. While initially the 680i was supposed to be "THE" chipset for overclocking the P965 has had time to learn and revise both the boards and bios and has proven to be very OCable.
I have the Gigabyte DS3 actually as of tomorrow I will have 3 of them and for a no frills board I don't think you can beat the quality and price. I personally would like to see firewire on it...I mean come on it's 07 but the ove machine I wanted it on I had an old at the time $30 1394 card laying around so I just popped it in.
I set my CPU voltage to 1.45 and from day one and haven't touched it since. Actually I kicked it up for a couple of tries at 400 but since it didn't I've only run at 1.45.
I have patriot PC2-8500 RAM and it's rated at 2.3V but it runs fine @ 2.2 and I've had it up to 2.4 running @ 1200MHz but I'm in So Cal and it's been getting into the 90's the last few days so I knocked "down" to 1003MHz @ 2.3 probably would be fine @ 2.2 also. I run the BUS @ +1 for 340 and over. My NB has been getting warm so I temporarily (and in a sloppy way rigged an 80mm fan to the back side of the graphics card to get good airflow across the passive stock cooler. The position is actually great because it doesn't disturb the airflow from the front mounted 120mm to the 120mm rear exhuast fan. It works kind of like a "repeater" with boosting properties on the push pull setup. Until I can get my hands on a Thermalright 120 Extreme, I'm making due with a Zalmann 9500 which thermally limiting the CPU.
EDIT: I forgot to get into temps.... I've had a long day To Be Continued....
little preview - These things can handle high temps!
...and last thing for the night a new Q6600 will be out in July with new stepping and TJunction rated 11C higher than the current model and probably with a nice price cut... Even so I have another one coming tomorrow
I was thinking the holes would be a cpu issue with the quad. Only because different boards with different chipsets can hit the same hole.
The boards chipsets are not the same but the cpu is. Board or cpu hope this helps others.
Edit: I was reading they are rated at 100C so, slap one in a laptop no problem.
My voltage on vcore is 1.481 in bios but 1.42 real time. 64c max uunder load.
This was done with the last update p-28 on board.
Here are the voltages:
cpu core-1.48125 (1.42)
cpu FSB - 1.5
spp-1.5
mcp-1.525
ht nforce -auto
SCORES:
SUPER PI 1 MEG 14.875S
3DMARK 06- 13,151
3DMARK 05 -19,071
Video card 8800 GTX KO
Ram, Crucial Ballistic 8000, timings 4-4-4-12 at 1007 mhz.
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