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Anonymous
November 30, 2004 2:57:55 AM

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A newbie question, pls forgive me:

I'm planning on getting a plasma, and I note the Panasonic user manuals say
sidebar brightness can be adjusted from light to dark, and even OFF (which
I imagine means black). I intend to be watching a lot of 4:3 media, and
wonder if black sidebars would NOT produce burn-in, or at least be better
in the long run. I prefer black sidebars.

Are black plasma pixels OFF, i.e. not creating burn-in, or are they
burning-in a BLACK ghost?

If there's a FAQ on this, would appreciate the URL.

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Anonymous
November 30, 2004 12:47:44 PM

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In article <Xns95B0F3D37D321gillen@216.194.192.13>,
Charles Gillen <see-my-sig@below.com> wrote:

> A newbie question, pls forgive me:
>
> I'm planning on getting a plasma, and I note the Panasonic user manuals say
> sidebar brightness can be adjusted from light to dark, and even OFF (which
> I imagine means black). I intend to be watching a lot of 4:3 media, and
> wonder if black sidebars would NOT produce burn-in, or at least be better
> in the long run. I prefer black sidebars.
>
> Are black plasma pixels OFF, i.e. not creating burn-in, or are they
> burning-in a BLACK ghost?
>
> If there's a FAQ on this, would appreciate the URL.

Supposedly, it should be about the same brightness as the rest of the
picture or you will burn in the edge. I have certainly seen this form of
burn in.

So pick grey, or better yet pick JUST you will get used to it
Anonymous
November 30, 2004 12:47:45 PM

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"SA" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:nospam-D446E5.01474330112004@newssvr14-ext.news.prodigy.com...
> In article <Xns95B0F3D37D321gillen@216.194.192.13>,
> Charles Gillen <see-my-sig@below.com> wrote:
>
> > A newbie question, pls forgive me:
> >
> > I'm planning on getting a plasma, and I note the Panasonic user manuals
say
> > sidebar brightness can be adjusted from light to dark, and even OFF
(which
> > I imagine means black). I intend to be watching a lot of 4:3 media, and
> > wonder if black sidebars would NOT produce burn-in, or at least be
better
> > in the long run. I prefer black sidebars.
> >
> > Are black plasma pixels OFF, i.e. not creating burn-in, or are they
> > burning-in a BLACK ghost?
> >
> > If there's a FAQ on this, would appreciate the URL.
>
> Supposedly, it should be about the same brightness as the rest of the
> picture or you will burn in the edge. I have certainly seen this form of
> burn in.
>
> So pick grey, or better yet pick JUST you will get used to it

The phosphors in the plasma cells age with use, in other words they loose
the ability to output as much light. IF you pick black sidebars then when
viewing a full size picture you will notice that the areas where the black
bars were will be brighter. Plasma is said to age quite quickly compared to
RPTV. Use grey sidebars as they will age at about the same rate as the rest
of the screen.

If you use a Plasma TV allot expect to want to replace it every three years
or so.

The advantage of LCD and DLP Projection TV is that there is no phosphor to
age. There is a lamp that needs to be replaced every three years (with
normal use) that costs about $200. Compare that to a Plasma that you
replace the whole set @ $3,000
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Anonymous
November 30, 2004 4:48:25 PM

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"Jeff Rigby" <jffg2@comcast.net> wrote:

> The advantage of LCD and DLP Projection TV is that there is no phosphor
> to age. There is a lamp that needs to be replaced every three years
> (with normal use) that costs about $200. Compare that to a Plasma that
> you replace the whole set @ $3,000

My son has a 50" Sony LCD projection which has neither the brightness nor
good black levels I appreciate. He keeps it in a darkened theater room,
while my large living room has more glass walls than solid, not to mention a
4' x 8' skylight. So, it has to be plasma for me :^)

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Anonymous
November 30, 2004 4:50:17 PM

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SA <nospam@nospam.net> wrote:

> So pick grey, or better yet pick JUST you will get used to it

Thanks... that seems to be the consensus, unlike my original inclination
toward black sidebars. Hope JUST will not be too distorted.

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December 1, 2004 2:41:09 AM

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In article <Xns95B18C7BE3AB7gillen@216.194.192.13>, see-my-sig@below.com
says...
> "Jeff Rigby" <jffg2@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > The advantage of LCD and DLP Projection TV is that there is no phosphor
> > to age. There is a lamp that needs to be replaced every three years
> > (with normal use) that costs about $200. Compare that to a Plasma that
> > you replace the whole set @ $3,000
>
> My son has a 50" Sony LCD projection which has neither the brightness nor
> good black levels I appreciate. He keeps it in a darkened theater room,
> while my large living room has more glass walls than solid, not to mention a
> 4' x 8' skylight. So, it has to be plasma for me :^)

Uh... DLP?

But whatever... it is your money after all. And someone has to buy them
for them to continue improving the technology to the point where it
makes actual sense to buy them :p 
December 4, 2004 11:10:49 PM

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"Jeff Rigby" <jffg2@comcast.net> wrote in
news:65WdnezKENwxxjHcRVn-sA@comcast.com:

>
> If you use a Plasma TV allot expect to want to replace it every three
> years or so.

Many new plasma units are now rated at 60,000 hours. So, even if your use
is "quite alot", the unit should last a good deal longer than three years.

This short-life warning is likely to be repeated long after it is no longer
true.
December 6, 2004 12:34:09 AM

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jimhill@swcp.com (Jim Hill) wrote in news:cou3oa$llj$1@iruka.swcp.com:

> JJ wrote:
>> [...]
>
> Third time's a charm: I use my plasma "a lot".

If I understand you correctly - did the first two fail outright or "fade
out"? I'm guessing they were early generations?
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