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Take a see for powerful R600 dynamic light effect!!

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While on the Radeon HD2000 series of performance tests we can only wait until May can be unveiled. But now we have the first opportunity to look at the performance of some HD2900XT display--Global Illumination!

Earth - (Global Illumination) is a based on DirectX10 API prepared the 3D demo program, and its focus on the performance of dynamic objects in the source of the light irradiation even transform, moving, extremely realistic lighting effects.

We can only platform in Windows Vista and DirectX10 to cope with the latest system under Win The DEMO trip procedures, although the procedure is very small with less than 10M. But running through HD2900XT DEMO view with the new generation of graphics in the DirectX10 lighting upgrade the shock. DEMO entire objects in the model design, texture memories are simple, but it does not matter. the biggest bright spot in the whole dynamic lighting transform aspects. Below we look at the DEMO actual operation of the screen.

here:
http://www.hardspell.com/english/doc/showcont.asp?news_id=479&pageid=580

video:
http://www.hardspell.com/english/doc/showcont.asp?news_id=479&pageid=584

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Performance wise the R600 is lagging behind the 8800GTX but I'm now wondering if ATI's new GPU will offer stunning visual quality. The demo looks nice by the way.

Reply to chuckshissle

looks nice
but again i wait for info from more trusted sites and benchmarks

Reply to anticupidon

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Performance wise the R600 is lagging behind the 8800GTX but I'm now wondering if ATI's new GPU will offer stunning visual quality. The demo looks nice by the way.


I think ati might have designed their card to be optimised for dx10, so this is going to be interesting to see which card will win in dx10, that will matter the most for ati

Reply to I_Love_Tacos

OMFG, you have a R600!!!!

i am assuming you do since you know how it performs and the NDA has not expired yet.

Reply to strangestranger

Well, maybe ATI knew all along they could go head to head with the 8800GTX in performance and framerates. So I guess they're going for visual quality and features on their cards. This could be a good choice for Crysis, I hope. Don't let us down ATI.

Reply to chuckshissle
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umm that's suppose to be impressive ? looks pretty normal to me, i must be missing some thing.

Reply to kagai

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umm that's suppose to be impressive ? looks pretty normal to me, i must be missing some thing.



Dynamic lights = killer.

Besides, the image quality does look quite nice.
Lookin' forward to a REAL benchmark!

Reply to sirrobin4ever

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Take a see for powerful R600 dynamic light effect!!

We can only platform in Windows Vista and DirectX10 to cope with the latest system under Win The DEMO trip procedures, although the procedure is very small with less than 10M. But running through HD2900XT DEMO view with the new generation of graphics in the DirectX10 lighting upgrade the shock. DEMO entire objects in the model design, texture memories are simple, but it does not matter.



Ok, can someone please translate this for me? I'm afraid that I'm not following the platform, or how to upgrade the shock under DX10. :lol:

Reply to DJ_Jumbles

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umm that's suppose to be impressive ? looks pretty normal to me, i must be missing some thing.



Normal!? :evil: Imagine playing Pacman with dynamic lighting and shadows!

Reply to chuckshissle
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umm that's suppose to be impressive ? looks pretty normal to me, i must be missing some thing.


I was thinking the same thing until I saw the video. The screenshots are quite misleading.

Reply to Peffse
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It's not the simple dynamic lighting and shadowing that's the highlight here. It's the global illumination, or indirect lighting. Notice that the whole room has a hint of red in it, and that the lighting in shadowed areas has subtle variations in luminance. Radiosity.

Reply to Arklon

Pretty impressive video. The pics dont do it justice. The dynamic lighting effects are spectacular, especially given the rate of travel on the lighting source and the fall of the shadows. Makes me wonder what's around the corner... 8)

Reply to DJ_Jumbles
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Woohoo!!...
This video Rocks!.
Man, X2900XT must be monster! :twisted:

Reply to Farhang

um... maybe its just me... but NONE of the links work :cry:

Reply to lordaardvark2

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umm that's suppose to be impressive ? looks pretty normal to me, i must be missing some thing.



Normal!? :evil: Imagine playing Pacman with dynamic lighting and shadows!

Pacman u say?
http://nintenblog.free.fr/images/pacman_world_3_20050422.jpg

Cant wait for those benches to come out soon....

Reply to nukemaster

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OMFG, you have a R600!!!!

i am assuming you do since you know how it performs and the NDA has not expired yet.

You have to admit things don't look good as of recently.

Reply to Heyyou27

well, they don't look too good for the HD2900xt, but i don't think its all over. i'm not calling it quits yet. (do we even know the price of the 2900 yet?) i still have hope, especially in ATi's midrange.

Reply to lordaardvark2

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um... maybe its just me... but NONE of the links work :cry:




Yep. Just you. They work just fine for me. :?

Reply to sirrobin4ever

personally i think it really comes down to perspective. i am in no need of an upgrade and so if ATI chooses to delay things that is their choice. if i was wanting to do a new build or upgrade i may be a little more impatient.

now, when i see proper specifications and real world in game benchamarks, then i will decide. i am no a man of speculation. i do not know the age and education of people on here but i would hope both would be high enough for people to get a grip of themselves, take a look at themselves in a mirror and remember that this is only about bits and pieces that go in a computer.

christ the amount of people alone quoting fudzilla, the inq and the dailytech show just how much people actually know about these cards. any other time these sources, apart from perhaps, and i say perhaps dailytech, would be derided and laughed at and yet i head people going on about soundcards, ppu's and 320 stream procs. none of this has anything to do with factual evidence and even then what rumours are being buffeted about the web are being misunderstood and reiterated as fact.

some people shopuld be ashamed of themselves. just because this is a web forum does not mean any behaviour opr attitude goes.

i would avoid posting in these threads if i didn't know that unless someone posts somehting with commonsense and keeps a cool head noobs arned with rumours will be hailed as tech gur's.

p.s yes i know people do not like the word noob but it suits some people so well.

Reply to strangestranger

dammit, that sucks. ARGH. stupid intarweb. am i missing out on a lot?

yeah, StrangeStranger, i know what you're saying. and its not just GPUs that this is happening to... AMD is getting the same treatment with their new procs. i mean, i'm young, but i've been through the release of new tech before... i don't remember it being this bad EVER. maybe its just because i'm more mature now or something... but all i see is people screaming illogically about retarded stuff stuff. there is so much rumor spreading and FUD and pointless statements, its really frustrating. makes me never wanna come back here.

i keep forgetting that there are people here that care SO MUCH about these PCBs... i mean i love tech and all, but if someone tells me that the GPU i like isn't the bestest-est thing ever, i'm not going to flame them or cry about it. all this hype is really pissing me off, and it doesn't seem like people are regarding these bits and pieces as the material things they are.

Reply to lordaardvark2

lol, but that pac man did look pretty nice

Reply to I_Love_Tacos

Looks impressive. Might actualy be MUCH better than a OC'ed GTX8800

Reply to Shadow703793

wow, everything just started working (all the links), and that demo is pretty damn amazing. i'm impressed. we'll see how it goes.

Reply to lordaardvark2

Wow! Here's more DX10 demos leaked from HardwareTechOC.com

Amazing! You can really tell the difference in this one!

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DX9


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DX10
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Reply to chuckshissle

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umm that's suppose to be impressive ? looks pretty normal to me, i must be missing some thing.



Normal!? :evil: Imagine playing Pacman with dynamic lighting and shadows!

Pacman u say?
http://nintenblog.free.fr/images/pacman_world_3_20050422.jpg

Cant wait for those benches to come out soon....

haha, not quite, but a cute joke nonetheless. on a side note, i really enjoyed the pac man world games. good times, back when i cared about console platforming games

Reply to ninjaspa

Yup, DX10 is the way to go.

Reply to prozac26

Perhaps, but I'm not into the whole vista thing just yet, perhaps a bit down the road I might, and might get a cheap dx10 card to go with it


edit: Didn't see chuckshissel's post, now I get it :lol:

Reply to I_Love_Tacos
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Quite honestly, this does not yet impress me as to the R600's performance to the 8800's. Crytek has already shown a demonstration of DX10's Realtime Ambient light maps(what you saw in the R600 demo) in a ship's hull. a quick search of gamespot.com will provide numerous results.

Reply to UAL3312

That's enough deciding factor for me to upgrade to DX10 later down the road.

Reply to chuckshissle

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edit: Didn't see chuckshissel's post, now I get it :lol:


Kinda slow there. :lol:

Reply to prozac26

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well, they don't look too good for the HD2900xt, but i don't think its all over. i'm not calling it quits yet. (do we even know the price of the 2900 yet?) i still have hope, especially in ATi's midrange.

I don't mean ATI is going to die, but the 2900XTX isn't looking like a top performer.

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personally i think it really comes down to perspective. i am in no need of an upgrade and so if ATI chooses to delay things that is their choice. if i was wanting to do a new build or upgrade i may be a little more impatient.

now, when i see proper specifications and real world in game benchamarks, then i will decide. i am no a man of speculation. i do not know the age and education of people on here but i would hope both would be high enough for people to get a grip of themselves, take a look at themselves in a mirror and remember that this is only about bits and pieces that go in a computer.

christ the amount of people alone quoting fudzilla, the inq and the dailytech show just how much people actually know about these cards. any other time these sources, apart from perhaps, and i say perhaps dailytech, would be derided and laughed at and yet i head people going on about soundcards, ppu's and 320 stream procs. none of this has anything to do with factual evidence and even then what rumours are being buffeted about the web are being misunderstood and reiterated as fact.

some people shopuld be ashamed of themselves. just because this is a web forum does not mean any behaviour opr attitude goes.

i would avoid posting in these threads if i didn't know that unless someone posts somehting with commonsense and keeps a cool head noobs arned with rumours will be hailed as tech gur's.

p.s yes i know people do not like the word noob but it suits some people so well.

I hear you but the evidence is becoming overwhelmingly clear. Either way, you've still got two X1900XTs and that pair is still quite a powerhouse.

Reply to Heyyou27
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I don't mean ATI is going to die, but the 2900XTX isn't looking like a top performer.



That won't matter if a) The price is right and b) the drivers are good.

Think I figured out why the cards are so late. AMD is so busy trying to keep up with demand for Wii GPU's that they can't manufacture anything else!

Reply to r0x0r

ROFL i'm buying dx10 today :wink:

Reply to lordaardvark2
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8800GTX's FTW!~!~!~! while everyone's been waiting i've been playing all my games maxed out since the 2nd week of the 8800's release. my only issue being a screen freeze caused by...........................................moving my Core clock from 660 to 665 i've had this card that does what you just showed and does it with awesome performance for the last 6 months. bought it for 650. it's dropped 100 bucks. and to be honest, i've gotten VERY good use from the card.

Reply to UAL3312
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correct me if I'm wrong, but don't other games already do dynamic lighting like that?

I have been playing S.T.A.L.K.E.R. (pain to type out) and it looks like its doing stuff like that already? Also FEAR lighting/shadows do that also that I can remember, realtime. ???, those are like DX9

Reply to warezme
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i agree that even if the r600 doesn t beat the 8800 at the dx9 benchmarks that will come very soon( and that a lot will base it s opinions on) it is still very plausible that the ati card might be a better buy because of the features and the yet to be seen dx10 performances. i think some might be surprised...

remember the hdr+aa from 7 series. As the complexity rises, the chances to get flaws rises too. maybe dx10will turn out to be a challenge. who knows

not over i tell ya

Reply to pidesd

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Good for you.



oops. nevermind. forgot that i don't have any money. and also that i can't fit a dx10 card into my agp slot. :lol:

Reply to lordaardvark2

And also, don't forget the r600 supports 24x aa, something the gtx could only do up to 16x, which is another plus in older games. So this may be a great card after all


lordaardvark2: bro, how many times do I have to tell you, all you need to do is bash it in with a hammer until the hsf breaks, and then you know it's in right :mrgreen:

Reply to I_Love_Tacos

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And also, don't forget the r600 supports 24x aa, something the gtx could only do up to 16x, which is another plus in older games. So this may be a great card after all


lordaardvark2: bro, how many times do I have to tell you, all you need to do is bash it in with a hammer until the hsf breaks, and then you know it's in right :mrgreen:



:cry: ...i can't even afford the hammer... :cry:

Reply to lordaardvark2

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Can't help you there

Reply to I_Love_Tacos

You can use a rock.

Reply to chuckshissle

or your older agp card, that way you can get them both working with one stroker :tongue:

Reply to I_Love_Tacos

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i agree that even if the r600 doesn t beat the 8800 at the dx9 benchmarks that will come very soon( and that a lot will base it s opinions on) it is still very plausible that the ati card might be a better buy because of the features and the yet to be seen dx10 performances. i think some might be surprised...

remember the hdr+aa from 7 series. As the complexity rises, the chances to get flaws rises too. maybe dx10will turn out to be a challenge. who knows

not over i tell ya

The Geforce 8800GTX supports FP16 and FP32 with antialiasing, as does the HD 2900XT and XTX.

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And also, don't forget the r600 supports 24x aa, something the gtx could only do up to 16x, which is another plus in older games. So this may be a great card after all


lordaardvark2: bro, how many times do I have to tell you, all you need to do is bash it in with a hammer until the hsf breaks, and then you know it's in right :mrgreen:

It's technically an advantage, but at that level of antialiasing, the difference will moot.

Reply to Heyyou27

I agree it would only be an advantage with lower grade games, but still, you could make even hl2 look great with that

Reply to I_Love_Tacos

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You can use a rock.

or your older agp card, that way you can get them both working with one stroker



but, wait, wouldn't it be more effective if i stuck my old card on...? if i kinda did a voltron thing with the two cards? see, i could like... cut off part of the r600 and solder on my older agp card... then it would run 2x as fast, right?

Reply to lordaardvark2

That's a new one, almost as interesting as how I found out the safest way to take off a soldered ihs is to literally cook it in a frying pan

Reply to I_Love_Tacos

Yep. Just like this one. 8) http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s278/TheGreatGrapeApe/JJMAN.jpg

I'd bet that thing is faster than hell. :lol:

Reply to sirrobin4ever

reminds me of wusy's modded 9800xt that he strapped on an amd cpu cooler

Reply to I_Love_Tacos
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