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I bought a Seagate 7200.10 250GB 16MB SATA hard drive from newegg last week and found out its transfer rate never exceed 60MB/s. I feel kinda cheated since i bought this hard disk simply because i heard it is fast but now see it is certainly 1 of the slowest you can get. :evil:

upon searching i found more victums suffering from the same problem. These hard drives can never attain a transfer rate higher than 60Mb/s and from what i heard the major cause of these slow disks is that the newer firmwares limit the drive's transfer rate. I cant update the firmware myself and obviously seagate is doing nothing to deal with this problem.

Is anybody here have the same issue?

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it is best to check reviews from independent sites before ponying up the cache...

Reply to RichPLS

Before you damn Seagate, look around at what others do, too. From all the items I've read, in the real world the average data transfer rate to / from a hard drive is about 60 to 80 MB/s. Everyone agrees the maximum speed is 'way beyond actual performance over an extended copy operation.

Some tests I saw found that, if you copy large amounts of data from one disk to another, the average data transfer rate ranges from 30 MB/s for external HDD's on a USB2 port up to perhaps 80 MB/s for a drive on a Firewire 800 (IEEE 1394b) connection. Typical value for internal HDD on EIDE or SATA (I or II) is around 60 MB/s.

The root problem is makers quote maximum rates from design parameters because they all look impressive. Don't get sucked in that way - read reviews with actual performance tests.

Reply to Paperdoc

Umm... yes, they are very fast for 7200RPM Drives.. take a look at my transfer rate vs a 74 Gig raptor.


http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/b5c0fa88dd.jpg

Reply to PSYCHoHoLiC

It seems to be on par with the 8mb cache version. Cache usually doesn't make much difference anyhow.

Reply to Hawkeye22

I dont have personal data to back it up but from what I see it's a good drive all around. I have NEVER had a Seagate die on me I've had all other brands die exept Seagate. I am a faithful buyer and will take one over another brand anyday. Sorry you have a bad taste in your mouth from them

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it is best to check reviews from independent sites before ponying up the cache...



exactly, AFTER you buy something is not the time to do the research. you do the research FIRST

Reply to valis

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it is best to check reviews from independent sites before ponying up the cache...



exactly, AFTER you buy something is not the time to do the research. you do the research FIRST

I love researching my hardware after I bought it.
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w224/petevsdrm/10146.gif

Reply to petevsdrm
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I luv the checking how fast the price drops once I buy it...

Reply to RichPLS
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i agree, but see even now NO ONE HERE KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT! that means there is virtually no reviews on this hard drive on its recent transfer rate problem :evil:

Reply to dido
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I am sorry may be I didnt make it clear
i cant post a pic here so i will just post the link
pic 1
pic 2
pic 3

There is noway a harddisk can stay at the same transfer speed for the first 70% of its space. Maximum speed of 5x MB/s is even more ridiculous. And this does not just happen to the harddisk i bought from newegg, it also happen to some other country.
i really want to know what the hell is going on :cry:

Reply to dido

That drive should perform better. THG HDD Benchmarks. Should get about 63MB/s average, which you can see on the chart as being one of the fastest drives around.

Probably a limitation on your controller or its running the drive in the wrong UDMA mode.

In all likelyhood you have no idea what you are doing and are trying to place blame elsewhere other than the real culprit. YOURSELF.

Reply to sandmanwn

Does your motherboard support SATA 3.0Gb/s or is it only 1.5Gb/s? If it is 3.0Gb/s, did you remove the jumper from the back of the hard drive that restricts it to 1.5Gs/s? Also, you said in your original post that it is a 250GB drive, but the screen shots you posted are for a 320GB model. Which is it?

Reply to orangegator

Should have went with WD!

Reply to soldier37
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ok, not sure what your complaining about but it is probably the jumper.

Also are you sure it's the 7200.10 becuase i didn't think they made the 7200.10 in 250GB capacity i thought the 250Gb ones were the 7200.9 version.

Also my 7200.10's are very fast. I currently have 9 seagate drives running and not a single issue with them, while my wd/maxtor drives (raptor excluded) are all either busted or to slow.

Reply to lcdguy

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lol benchmark any other hdd in the same becnhes you used and you'll see something different than what your saying... again LOL

your the man saying "oh **** that car doesn't brake its bullshit it should have brake even though I was on an ice floor 8O "


Thats all well and good but we are not talking about the other hard drives. We are speaking directly about the hard drive the OP is complaining about.

I looked at the benchmarks for all the other test. The drive consistently places near the top.

It also completed the average write benchmark at the same speed as the average read benchmark that I posted above.

Dolt.

Read. Comprehend. Post.

Reply to sandmanwn
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To the OP.

If you do have a 320gb drive there is something wrong with your setup.

Looking at the Hd tune pics you posted it looks like the drive is being bottlenecked by something. It should start out at around 80+ MB/s and then curve down towards the 40 MB/s towards the end of the test. Your pics don't look normal and I would suggest checking your BIOS, Driver settings etc.

The shape of your results graph should look more like this

http://images.betanews.com/screenshots/scaled/1141220325-1.jpg

(taken from a google image search and is not from a 7200.10)

Reply to Scooby2

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Also are you sure it's the 7200.10 becuase i didn't think they made the 7200.10 in 250GB capacity i thought the 250Gb ones were the 7200.9 version.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822148144

I have one

Reply to jay2tall
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The reason why i am blaming on Seagate is I have another 7200.10 on my computer which i bought 6 months ago is running completely normal.

My motherboard is AB9Pro and I connected both 7200.10 to the ICH8R chips so it fully supports SATAII. My hard drive is the on Pic 3 on my last post.
Plus I am not the only person having this problem, i have checked some forum over the pacific ocean and some people in asia are having the same issues as well, as you can see in the first two pic in my last post. they are from hongkong.

sorry if i offended anybody. Normally i wont put such a subjective topic but this time i am really ticked off as i am sure this is not my problem. and these speed-limited hdd are probably distributed all around the world.

Reply to dido

Perhaps it didnt cross your mind that this is nothing more than a bad hard drive???

Why is it everyones first knee jerk response to scream out "seagate sucks" "western digital sucks" blah blah blah.

Just return the damn thing and get another one. Sheesh. :roll:

Reply to sandmanwn
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Thank you for your help

This is the first 7200.10 i got, a lil bit slower than normal but at least the graph looks fine
pic 4

It is on the same computer on the same SATA controller as the one having problem, so it is unlikely i have set something wrong

Reply to dido

Uh you do realize that those are different models right???

The first images you posted pic1 shows a ST3320620A

Pics2, and Pics3 are ST3250620AS

This last one you posted, Pic4, was a ST3250620AS

A is a PATA model and AS is SATA.

Are you sure you have your model numbers correct?

Reply to sandmanwn
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Well spotted. That would explain the problem, a PATA drive on an a IDE controller thats limited to 66MB/s. (ATA66)

Reply to Scooby2
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Here are your BM pics you posted...

http://discuz.servehttp.com/attachments/Seagate7200_10_HDTune_Result_dQHgOldzDv72.gif


http://discuz.servehttp.com/attachments/3_5cHFXO6zTud6.jpg


http://discuz.servehttp.com/attachments/HDTune_Benchmark_ST3250620AS_oFUgCpZnLi39.png

Reply to RichPLS
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Your last image... Pic4

http://discuz.servehttp.com/attachments/HDTune_Benchmark_ST3250620AS-1_GCl43b1AtwrD.png

Reply to RichPLS

Compare 2 Raptor 150s in Raid 0 to those...

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i145/Soldier36/HDTune_Benchmark_VIASATARAID0.png

Reply to soldier37
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How does that relate to this thread exactly ?

Reply to Scooby2

Seagate.
Great price. Crappy product. Even crappier product support.
Endless menus without any help.
What the heck is their disk utility app?
Another product to BUY.
Returning the drive tomorrow.
Never buying Seagate again.
Will strongly recommend anyone who will listen that this is a BAD company.
Jorge.

Reply to Anonymous

Never had a problem with the Customer Service
I can say i have 10 320 GB Seagate Barracuda HDD's
I have had to Send 60% of them back on warranty
Got 2 going back for a 2nd time.
i still have 2 years left on my Warranties.
I have 2 WDC and 4 WDRaptors, Bought before the seagates.
I have not had one issue with them.
Draw your own conclusion.

Oh and P.S. a 160 GB came with my dell laptop, it has been failing for a year, also a seagate.


Message edited by scaldari anitoba on 09-02-2010 at 12:09:00 AM
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heyy calm down :)

stay cool,this is not serious problem

i'm sorry i never choose Seagate,i prefer Western Digital

i have 500 GB SATA 2 Caviar Black Extreme Perfomance

i agree with you seagate is sucks,but seagate is cheap :D

Reply to crooz1
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SEAGATE SUCKS. I tell you what though guys! Seagate does suck, and i tell you why. Firstly generally you would buy a Seagate HDD for reliablity and stability based on the assumption of a great warrentied product right?

Ok well heres the thing, lets firstly take a look at the Seagate Free Agent Go's, they are advertised as having a 5 year warrenty from my understanding anybody actually queried that warrenty? well here it is-it is not a total of 5 years it is in actual fact 3 years on the drive and 2 years on the casing therefore they advertisement is thus 2 years + 3 years = 5 years! 5 YEARS RIGHT! BS!

Another thing ever seen the policies you need to take in order to send a drive in for there warrenty? Trust me dont even go there! It is the biggest Process of anything i have seen in my life! Alos if you miss diagnose with there Seagate warrenty software they will charge you for the transport of the drive! WOW Talk abour customer support!

One other thing the new Seagate freeagent GO'S, anybody taken note on the advertised warrenty? Yip it is now 2 years and not there original "5Years" FUNNY RIGHT!

Im sorry guys but i used to big a huge Seagate fan, and have nothing but promoted and sold there product! Truth is they are nowhere near as good as they used to be, and as you can see they no it for themselves by lowering all there warrentys on there drives!

I am an IT Manager and have had more returns on Seagate drives then any other even SAMSUNG has become more reliable in there drives!

SO HERE IT IS, IT DOES NOT MATTER ANY LONGER WHICH DRIVE YOU BUY THERE IS NONE OTHER GREATER THEN THE NEXT! '

And maybe stay away from seagate this year, until they sort out there highly unreliable drives!

Im sorry if im hating Seagate but you guys neeed to know this, since the beginning of this year they have become extremly unreliable drives!

Let me know your thoughts.

Kindest Regards Rob."

Reply to Pilk

Yea... let's not drag the dead from their graves.

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