Apple isn't even large enough to acquire ATi from AMD.. let alone AMD itself.
| Quote : Apple isn't even large enough to acquire ATi from AMD.. let alone AMD itself. |
Apple is worth more than AMD by a factor of 10+
| Quote : Apple isn't even large enough to acquire ATi from AMD.. let alone AMD itself. |
What are you talking about???.................
APPLES market cap is $ 86.27B ...
AMD Market cap: $ 7.44B
thats not really how the stock market works, just coz apple is bigger doesnt mean it is a worthy investment and can afford something like that
Another clueless columnist doesn't realize that Apple is with Intel because they want the best low power processor solutions out there. AMD is not competitive in notebook processors and is falling further behind. Apple won't touch AMD with a 20 foot pole.
I would say they can afford it, no problems there and it could be a worthy investment because what the guy said in the link:....
Apple will reap out of this (other than adding another revenue stream) is to have complete control over its hardware from a cost standpoint. If it can convert Macs to AMD and ATI chips, all the key components are being developed in-house. Talk about increasing margins. Apple could either squeeze out higher margins-per-PC to lower the cost-per-Mac to allow for affordable switchover from Windows or improve its bottom line directly. Regardless of which way you cut it, Apple is going to be a winner in all of this
PS.not that i think this will happen.
Which would mean if AMD/ATI/APPLE turns out a suerior cpu wed have to buy an apple os? ohhhhh noooo
We could call them AAA(Triple A). HAR HAR HAR.
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| Quote : Apple isn't even large enough to acquire ATi from AMD.. let alone AMD itself. |
Apple has $12bn in cash sitting in the bank and a market cap of more than $85bn.
Of course, suggesting that Apple should buy AMD is just plain stupid. Why pay for all the CPU R&D and manufacturing costs when they can just buy the CPU straight from Intel?
wait apple has what kind of marketshare in the computer biz? its in a better position now than it would be if it acquired amd.
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NOONE can afford to buy AMD
Interesting idea but why? What would Apple gain? Right now Apple can wrap shiny plastic around any off the shelf components and find buyers.
If AMD ends up in play there are far better names to pull out of the air; TSMC, (not seriously, just throwing a name out there)?
Would that make them a Green Apple?
Give it a rest.
I second that!
Wombat2 is the new 9inch.
Here's an argument for me to buy Apple:
I like apples and I'm hungry. Done, I've decided to buy apple (just one).
I had a friend whom i told AMD acquired ATI, so he said 'why dont they also acquire Asus and make mobos?' this article comes in the same manner as wat my friend said.
I don't want Steve Jobs anywhere near my PC.
then I'd have to buy Gigabyte mobos..
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Apple isn't thriving by saving on component prices. If they had acquired the powerPC business from Motorola or IBM, they would be trying to sell their powerbooks as space heaters. It isn't in their best interest to own their own chip manufacturing because it makes them hostage to those chips whether they are a good choice or not.
Samsung and IBM would both be better suited to acquire AMD, because they would both gain synergies from the acquisition, IBM in particular. I would have added Freescale to the list, but I'm not sure taking AMD private for ~$9Billion is a good idea. There would end up being way too much debt involved considering how the private equity guys like to do business.
This whole discussion could very well be moot if the terms on AMD's new $2.2Billion in debt are unfavorable toward early payment or the delisting of AMD as a publicly traded entity.
except all that money saved on margins from making everything in house will be spent on r&d and fab development.
Editorial was poorly written. It doesn't even break the ice over the fact that Apple and Dell are PC/consumer device assemblers, whereas AMD is a silicon manufacturer - almost wholly separate industries requiring different expertise. At the surface it doesn't look strategic at all.
There's no accounting for the scenario that AMD develops chips inferior to Intel's (historically at the process, not architectural level) - wouldn't that put Apple in worse position than simply leaving AMD alone?
Jobs is an interesting executive and can probably pull off things we don't imagine, but I doubt we would be the first ones seeing the light in taking over AMD. A decade ago Apple was hardly bigger than AMD-ATI in terms of revenue, stock value, or cash on hand/assets. Losses were staggering and bankruptcy/acquisition rumors were ubiquitous - a similar position to AMD today. Jobs turned all that around, but the difference is he co-founded Apple and basically grew up with it. All along his company has left it to others to do the nitty-gritty manufacturing.
amd being mostly a semiconductor manufacturer aquired by apple would subvert the somewhat adverserial arrangement between retail product manufacturer and component supplier. If you own the entire process you assume the liability for the availability deadlines of everything and are not able to get compensation when a deadline is not met. AMD may be experiencing some of this phenomenon.
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With a market cap of a measly $7.4Billion, AMD is an easy acquisition. The only problem is that they are heavily in debt.
I'm not willing to pay $100 more, for AMD and ATI, over what there CPU's and Graphics cards cost now.
I have questions about the sanity of those considering this.
Hiya Ninja, how are ya doin? hope you'll be fine.
Alright! I think Microsoft should Acquire AMD instead of Apple. lol! just a thought.
I'm all well and good. About to head off for the day.
As for MS acquiring AMD... I'd have a heart attack.
I still don't know why anyone thinks it would be a good idea for Apple to buy AMD!?!?! Never mind if they can afford it or not.
Apple has never made it's own CPUs (always been either 68k or IBM PPC, and now Intel), why oh why would it make it's first move into CPU manufacture by purchasing a currently sub-standard and heavily in debt chipsmith...never mind the fact that they've barely 5 minutes ago signed a deal with their vastly superior rival Intel.
What is this 'CoolTechZone' anyway? It sorta sucks.
Yes, it's true, Apple could aquire AMD without having to obtain financing even. Like someone else mentioned, they are sitting on 12.5 billion cash. They could buy out General Motors right now, if they wanted to.
Having said that, buying AMD would be an incredibly dumb thing to do.
I could see Apple buying Creative though.
very stupid idea, Apple has no business or interest of making its own chips. Samsung makes sense, IBM ummm, don't know maybe if they spun off their chip division to be standalone and merge with AMD.
I think AMD is being a little disingenuous in letting these private equity (or other) takeover rumors swirl. Before you seriously think they may happen, you should google "Intel AMD patent cross licensing agreement termination" and see what might happen. Not saying it would be terminated, but there might be some hidden costs to keep those agreements in place...
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Actually, they do make mobos, they just send the reference designs to major manufacturers.
I dont think Apple would do that, but on the other hand it would make more sense than some private capital buying out AMD. If Jobs would do this, I bet he would think off something to make of AMD pure cash cow, he is genious in tech. in the same way as B.Gates is genious in marketing.
Tbh I think AMD would suffer from such deal, since Apple would make from it some very cool but niche and proprietary products. Intel would only love it. We dont...
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