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Fudzilla:Radeon HD 2900XT needs 750W+

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May 3, 2007 8:59:15 AM

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could be the reason why they're trying to scale to 65nm.
so folks, you can expect a PSU upgrade if you really want the card... :roll:

EDIT: the news does not say whether you'll have to have a 2x4 pin connector in order for 2900XT to function, but the possibility is pretty high.

i'm currently running 8800GTS + liquid cooling + 4 fans + OCed E6300 and other peripherals on a single 500W PSU.

not trying to be an a$$ here, but 750W+ just for 2900XT is a little asking too much.
May 3, 2007 9:23:59 AM

Good old FUDZILLA, ever ready with their ATI FUD ;-)
May 3, 2007 9:25:47 AM

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Good old FUDZILLA, ever ready with their ATI FUD ;-)

maybe true, maybe not. But i thought Fudzilla is more... AMD oriented than Intel oriented...
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May 3, 2007 9:44:22 AM

LOL FUD.

250Watts is the maximum possible power draw for the HD2900XT.

PCI-express slot = 75W max
6-pin (2x3) connector = 75W max
8-pin (2x4) connector = 100W max

75+75+100 = 250W. There has to be room for overclocking so in my opinion the card would probably use 70% of the max possible under load, i.e. about 175W.

According to playtool.com, the 8800GTX pulls 122W under load, out of a possible 225W (PCIe + 6pin + 6pin)
a b U Graphics card
May 3, 2007 10:25:15 AM

could this be the prescott of the video card industry?
May 3, 2007 10:59:36 AM

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not trying to be an a$$ here, but 750W+ just for 2900XT is a little asking too much.


They say recommend a total of 750W not only for the card. I guess they putted more to be safe. Ive read the OEM card alone consume 240W, the retail should consume about 200-220W I guess a PSU of 500W would be just fine if you doesn't have 5 hard drive and million fans etc..
May 3, 2007 11:43:31 AM

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not trying to be an a$$ here, but 750W+ just for 2900XT is a little asking too much.


I agree with you, hopefully that news turns out to be false. I would rather not go any higher than 500W, although I have a 650W psu in my closet.
May 3, 2007 12:04:11 PM

As for me I'm building a new system by years end.IF AMD and ATI can get their act together by then I just may buy from them.But at this point it looks like I may be going with the other camp.Hey i'm not trying to build a rocket ship with after burners.
May 3, 2007 12:09:47 PM

Looks like there won't be a direct competitor for the 8800GTX from ATi - the 2900XT only just beats the 8800GTS and the cost of the XTX (particulary the memory) means it's unlikely to see the light of day.

Clicky
May 3, 2007 12:58:06 PM

Soon video cards will require 1.21 gigawatts (pronounced jigawatts) of electricity. Thank God for the new power supply from Corsair. I think it's called "Mr. Fusion".

Edit: For those of you that are doubters, I offer the following link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnqtXOi1iaY
May 3, 2007 1:30:30 PM

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Soon video cards will require 1.21 gigawatts (pronounced jigawatts) of electricity. Thank God for the new power supply from Corsair. I think it's called "Mr. Fusion".

Edit: For those of you that are doubters, I offer the following link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnqtXOi1iaY


thats funny..., I think they were probably quoting recommended overall system power but still a little high. That XTX will need a "jigawatt" though. 8O
May 3, 2007 2:59:02 PM

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Looks like there won't be a direct competitor for the 8800GTX from ATi - the 2900XT only just beats the 8800GTS and the cost of the XTX (particulary the memory) means it's unlikely to see the light of day.

Clicky


That article is all specualtion surrounding the Daily Tech 'review'.

Crap.
May 3, 2007 3:02:54 PM

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Looks like there won't be a direct competitor for the 8800GTX from ATi - the 2900XT only just beats the 8800GTS and the cost of the XTX (particulary the memory) means it's unlikely to see the light of day.

Clicky

well we'll see XTX from ATi, its just that they won't launch until Q3. its probably due to power consumption (175W~220W!!), and heat dissipation (100C?), so they'll have to migrate XTX to 65nm.
May 3, 2007 3:05:35 PM

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LOL FUD.

250Watts is the maximum possible power draw for the HD2900XT.

PCI-express slot = 75W max
6-pin (2x3) connector = 75W max
8-pin (2x4) connector = 100W max

75+75+100 = 250W. There has to be room for overclocking so in my opinion the card would probably use 70% of the max possible under load, i.e. about 175W.

According to playtool.com, the 8800GTX pulls 122W under load, out of a possible 225W (PCIe + 6pin + 6pin)

well I certainly hope this news isn't true, or Hector will have a lot more things to worry about.

having a 175W drawing card that's slower than 122W card is a little embarrasing :roll: ... probably the reason why they were so eager to migrate that onto 65nm.
May 3, 2007 3:13:41 PM

Well in his update Faud posted this screenshot which seems to back up the 750w power supply as a minimum requirement.
May 3, 2007 3:20:36 PM

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Well in his update Faud posted this screenshot which seems to back up the 750w power supply as a minimum requirement.

That looks so ridiculously fake.
May 3, 2007 3:25:30 PM

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Well in his update Faud posted this screenshot which seems to back up the 750w power supply as a minimum requirement.

That looks so ridiculously fake.

It cannot possibly be fake, I was informed FUDZILLA was predominately ATI biased webbies, why would they diss the compnay they sleep with? ;-)
May 3, 2007 3:35:07 PM

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Well in his update Faud posted this screenshot which seems to back up the 750w power supply as a minimum requirement.

That looks so ridiculously fake.

It cannot possibly be fake, I was informed FUDZILLA was predominately ATI biased webbies, why would they diss the compnay they sleep with? ;-)
Maybe ATI gave them some strange STD...
May 3, 2007 3:41:38 PM

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Well in his update Faud posted this screenshot which seems to back up the 750w power supply as a minimum requirement.

That looks so ridiculously fake.

Will I don't speak to it's authenticity but if I follow Faud's pattern he probably did find that somewhere. He is terrible for not linking to the source. Maybe I will throw 5 min. into this and see if I can find the source.
May 3, 2007 3:50:00 PM

Bvidia were overly cautious when they launched their 8xxx range - their just covering their arse.
May 3, 2007 4:17:55 PM

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Good lord people. The same idiot who made these claims posted this the same day.

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&ta...

It's clear he doesn't know what's going on, and rather is simply grasping at straws, so let's not be swayed, ok? The truth will come out eventually

More like Fraud Abazovic.
a c 110 U Graphics card
May 3, 2007 4:44:30 PM

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Soon video cards will require 1.21 gigawatts (pronounced jigawatts) of electricity. Thank God for the new power supply from Corsair. I think it's called "Mr. Fusion".

Edit: For those of you that are doubters, I offer the following link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnqtXOi1iaY

Thank god for mr fusion. less polution more power

a b U Graphics card
May 3, 2007 4:54:46 PM

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I agree with you, hopefully that news turns out to be false.



It is.
May 3, 2007 5:27:41 PM

Why do people keep posting shite from this guy?

It appears he's handy with PhotoShop now too.
May 3, 2007 5:29:53 PM

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Why do people keep posting shite from this guy?

It appears he's handy with PhotoShop now too.

well currently he's the only one with R600 updates... :roll:

however, i do agree that everything is just speculation and FUDs before NDA's lifted.
May 3, 2007 7:15:51 PM

The sheer fact that he's the only one should tell you something in and of itself. Why does no one else have updates? Why only him? Is he violating his NDA all by his lonesome? Doubtful, because once the NDA is busted EVERYONE could legally violate it. Could he possibly be doing this to jack up his hits? Sounds like a pretty slick move right? Could be economically viable for him.

It's clear from the type of stuff he posts that he really has no clue, and is just assembling whatever bits and pieces of what might pass as data that he comes across in an attempt to stir up interest and increase hits to his site.

Now is all of this crap false? Maybe, maybe not. There could be bits of truth scattered in among the ca-ca. But the sensationalist headlines and some of the more bizarre assertations completely discredit whatever he's trying to accomplish.
May 3, 2007 7:58:31 PM

I'll believe it when I see it.
a b U Graphics card
May 3, 2007 9:05:33 PM

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Well in his update Faud posted this screenshot which seems to back up the 750w power supply as a minimum requirement.


Just curious how FUAD says there's no PSUs out there with the 8pin connector, "The only problem is that no one has one available today, but we heard that there will be at least a few PSU manufacturers that will offer one. We are not sure if ATI will offer a 2x4 pin to two Molex adaptor, but it sounds very unlikely to us." when there were a bunch listed by mpilchfamily last week from his list?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

That looks like a bunch of them that would be ready to go right now.
Crosffiring these and overclocking them though might be an issue.

As for the 750W number I think that's supposed to include crap power supplies, in the same way the GF6800 was recommended 500W PSUs.
May 4, 2007 2:01:26 PM

yes very funny all the 750w is for a crossfire setup and remember it does have other things onboard that uses power it will work fine on a 500w psu
May 4, 2007 2:04:08 PM

The latest from Fudzilla is that 500W is more than OK but you need 750W for crossfire
a b U Graphics card
May 4, 2007 5:37:19 PM

So if the threshold is no 500+W there's a bunch of 600W PSU that can be added to that 8pin list above that I tried to restrict to the ~750W range (one enermax is 720W was included in that range IIRC).
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