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May 3, 2007 1:57:20 PM

What is the difference between the e6700 and the xeon 3070. I have had a look my self but stuggled abit when it started talking about PECI.

I am only a gamer but I can get the Xeon a bit cheaper but I was wondering if that it would be worse for games.

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May 3, 2007 3:02:31 PM

The 3070 is just a higher binned e6700. The clocks and cache are exactly the same, but the 3070 will run cooler and usually will overclock slightly better. It is never guaranteed because every CPU is different. But since the bin is higher this will most likely be the case.

So if you need the coolest running Conroe you can get, the 3070 would be your choice.
May 3, 2007 3:04:10 PM

So what is the PECI
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May 3, 2007 3:10:31 PM

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So what is the PECI


No idea but these processors are identical in spec except the xeon will be the "better quality" part so to speak.
Server components are assumed to be in use 24/7 so the requirements to "make the team" are slightly higher.

If you can get the xeon version cheaper get it. Usually they are more expensive. You are lucky ;) 
May 3, 2007 3:14:17 PM

If anyone is interested you can get them from here.

Xeon 3070
May 3, 2007 3:44:07 PM

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If anyone is interested you can get them from here.

Xeon 3070


That equates to $370 USD... Newegg offers them for $349.00 in the states.

However, the E6700 C2D is going for $323 USD currently. Things are a little different over here. :wink:
May 3, 2007 3:46:24 PM

channels I can get it though make it a bit cheaper for me. but the stuff in the stats is cheaper ther in the UK
May 3, 2007 5:54:53 PM

Hmm... accept Mercedes... and how much do you pay for healthcare over there??? :p 
May 3, 2007 10:08:56 PM

Hmm this a good thread because I had my mind set on the 6700 but if the X3070 is better I would like to know too :) 
May 3, 2007 10:36:25 PM

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channels I can get it though make it a bit cheaper for me. but the stuff in the stats is cheaper ther in the UK



or gas. :) 
May 3, 2007 10:53:31 PM

What about standard 775 heatsinks? Will they fit with the Xeon? Will they perform as well with standard ddr2-800? If so I might get one of these myself instead of an e6600.
May 3, 2007 11:09:17 PM

Already picked up a pair of crucial ddr2 1000 1gb modules during the last batch of price slashes on newegg. $330 something msrp.. I got em for $150. <3 newegg I'll deffinitely go with this chip then. ~$10 more than the c2d equivelents and Xeon sounds much cooler :D 
May 4, 2007 1:06:58 AM

You're making not buying a 2nd pair very hard for me Tacos.. I'm trying to save up for a new pc here you know! Damn, that price is insane... Must... not.. reach... for... debit card.....
May 4, 2007 1:17:27 AM

Would love to, but my room gets so hot in the summer, my case would probably have a foot deep pool of condensation at the bottom after a few hours. :lol:  Though I don't plan on running the rig here untill I figure out a better cooling situation. Good luck with the build though, make sure to post some pics.
May 4, 2007 4:00:38 AM

Just to be sure, the xeon conroe is supported by any board that supports socket 775 right? Most of them don't list it in their 'supported processors' specifications.
May 4, 2007 7:17:40 AM

[code:1:7406fb8d35]Hmm... accept Mercedes... and how much do you pay for healthcare over there??? [/code:1:7406fb8d35]

Personaly I don't because I just go on Nhs but I have heard it being about
£40-60 a month for 1 adult and 2 children.
May 4, 2007 7:54:24 AM

That has sorted it I will go for the Xeon 3070 heehehe.

I would still love to know what the hell the PECI is on Intel stats for the C2D
May 4, 2007 8:34:23 AM

Ok thanks for the useful webbys as well they will come in handy
May 4, 2007 11:06:02 AM

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Just to be sure, the xeon conroe is supported by any board that supports socket 775 right? Most of them don't list it in their 'supported processors' specifications.


If the chipset supports Conroe, then it will support a Xeon Conroe. :) 
May 4, 2007 1:04:07 PM

Hmm... 195 is still more than 183... last time I checked :wink:
May 5, 2007 1:15:54 AM

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Hmm... 195 is still more than 183... last time I checked :wink:


Yes but his link says 212 ;) 
May 5, 2007 5:46:05 AM

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Hmm... 195 is still more than 183... last time I checked :wink:


Yes but his link says 212 ;) 

Hmm... was 183 when I checked it. **Shrugs** Sorry
May 5, 2007 10:05:16 AM

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Ok thanks for the useful webbys as well they will come in handy


Sorry to give the company I work for a shameless plug but you can get E6700's for cheaper than the Xeon 3070 you've linked to :) 

http://shopping.moneysupermarket.com/cl/40/CPUs?search=...

Even for an increase of £10-15 I think the Xeon sounds like a better option. The link was just an exsample of a company the sells it at not a bad price. Sometimes depending on if you have an account with those guys you may get it cheaper.
May 5, 2007 2:21:30 PM

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Perhaps, but the xeons are the better ocers if that means anything to the op

Depends on the OC you're looking to pull off. A couple of °C isn't really worth the higher (unless the price is only $20 different like when I bought my 3060 to $40 higher) prices. You don't really see the benefits until you start doing extreme overclocks, where ever MHz and °C counts.

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May 5, 2007 4:36:25 PM

Hnn.
May 5, 2007 9:48:28 PM

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Perhaps, but I find when the price difference was so minimal, the xeon would have been the better choice, though if I recall correctly, only the regular conroes were affected by the price drop, so now I would say e6700 over 3060, but at the time the price between the e6700 and 3070 was about the same, then I'd say it was a no brainer for an ocer


The Xeon's have also gone down in price also.
May 5, 2007 11:35:24 PM

Xeons are inferior to Core 2 Duos for single user operation. Not only are they more expensive clock per clock, but they do not perform as well for single user scenarios. I am of course talking about the Woodcrest version. This topic seems to be refering to the Conroe version, which I must admit, just sounds like a marketing ploy. I think the only real purpose to the Conroe version is that by having the name Xeon, people think theyre more stable. Are there any studies that show this to be true?
May 6, 2007 1:14:28 AM

Ok, that makes sense. The conroe versions are then a good purchase. The Woodcrest versions are not, I think we can agree on that.
May 6, 2007 1:44:10 PM

I wouldnt go so far as to say that.

http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_content.asp?id=5160vs68...

I would say that clock per clock, they perform just about the same, with a very very small nod going to Conroe. However, Conroe has one distinct advantage over the Woodcrest and that is the DDR2 memory, which is designed for single-user. Woodcrest uses FBDIMM memory which is great, if youre running a server, but not so great when you are running memory sensitive applications, such as Winrar.
May 7, 2007 9:54:01 AM

Intel have only steoed upto the pace of AMD in my mind for gamers. For a company the size of Intel is pritty poor. Just feel sorry for AMD after all that hard work and starting to progress in market share they are now loosing out to Intel again. I would rather be talking about an AMD now but I am now going to buy an iferior CPU. Will be first Intel build for me.

I am definatly an AMD fan boy but as I say not so much that I buy an inferior CPU.
May 8, 2007 1:08:09 AM

Head to the Structure section in Community and you'll find others that agree.
May 8, 2007 1:15:33 AM

Meh. You'll get used to it. I just want them to change the code to fit widescreen. It looks scrunched now.


But I digress. Speak about this in the Structure section.
May 8, 2007 1:35:49 AM

I don't notice them. *Shrugs*

Seems pretty quiet nowadays. The same kind of noobishness happens wherever you go.
May 8, 2007 2:04:43 AM

Erhmm. Keep private thoughts private.
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