C2D vs Duel Core Xeon

What is the difference between the e6700 and the xeon 3070. I have had a look my self but stuggled abit when it started talking about PECI.

I am only a gamer but I can get the Xeon a bit cheaper but I was wondering if that it would be worse for games.

So what is the PECI

If anyone is interested you can get them from here.

Xeon 3070

channels I can get it though make it a bit cheaper for me. but the stuff in the stats is cheaper ther in the UK

Hmm this a good thread because I had my mind set on the 6700 but if the X3070 is better I would like to know too

xeon, then build a custom phase change/chiller or get someone at xs to build it for you, you can build one for as little as $100 if you build your own evap, or for I'm guessing around $200 if you get someone at xs to make the evap for you and braze it to the cap tube before hand since that's the hardest part

Standard hsf works fine, but I would go aftermarket or water/chiller/phase for extreme overclocking. Any ol' ddr2 will work, but check out crucial, they have a massive sale going on their top end 1000mhz and 1066mhz chips. You will lose roughly 5-10% with ddr2-800 instead of 1066 though

That's what I was talking about, and they go even lower for the standard editions, the lighted ones cost around $140 though
Here's their 1066 kits
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] (PC2+8500)
The regular is just $130 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O

lol, you minding sponsoring for a phase changing I'm building while you're at it? I could make a second one for you if I am able to get it down right and have the time....

I will, but don't expect them for another couple of months

I wouldn't worry so much about condensation because of the way it works, so when it's well insulated, the most condensation you would get is probably on the cpu die itself, as if you insulate correctly, the backside of teh mobo and the vrm shouldn't freeze, though it would be nice to consider phase changing a nb to just see what the max fsb of the p965 chipset is


Tell me more about what you're planning to do with your new computer's cooling, I can probably be of assistance there, I tend to know a thing or two in that area

[code:1:7406fb8d35]Hmm... accept Mercedes... and how much do you pay for healthcare over there??? [/code:1:7406fb8d35]

Personaly I don't because I just go on Nhs but I have heard it being about
£40-60 a month for 1 adult and 2 children.

Platform Environment Control Interface.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platform_Environment_Control_Interface

Ok thanks for the useful webbys as well they will come in handy

Sorry to give the company I work for a shameless plug but you can get E6700's for cheaper than the Xeon 3070 you've linked to

http://shopping.moneysupermarket.c [...] 3B&q=e6700

Yes but his link says 212

Yes but his link says 212

Hmm... was 183 when I checked it. **Shrugs** Sorry

Sorry to give the company I work for a shameless plug but you can get E6700's for cheaper than the Xeon 3070 you've linked to

http://shopping.moneysupermarket.c [...] 3B&q=e6700

Even for an increase of £10-15 I think the Xeon sounds like a better option. The link was just an exsample of a company the sells it at not a bad price. Sometimes depending on if you have an account with those guys you may get it cheaper.
That's what I would do, the xeons run with less voltage, meaning longer life and cooler running, plus as I already mentioned they will oc higher too

Perhaps, but I find when the price difference was so minimal, the xeon would have been the better choice, though if I recall correctly, only the regular conroes were affected by the price drop, so now I would say e6700 over 3060, but at the time the price between the e6700 and 3070 was about the same, then I'd say it was a no brainer for an ocer

The Xeon's have also gone down in price also.

Xeons are inferior to Core 2 Duos for single user operation. Not only are they more expensive clock per clock, but they do not perform as well for single user scenarios. I am of course talking about the Woodcrest version. This topic seems to be refering to the Conroe version, which I must admit, just sounds like a marketing ploy. I think the only real purpose to the Conroe version is that by having the name Xeon, people think theyre more stable. Are there any studies that show this to be true?

Ok, that makes sense. The conroe versions are then a good purchase. The Woodcrest versions are not, I think we can agree on that.

I wouldnt go so far as to say that.

http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_co [...] 800&page=1

I would say that clock per clock, they perform just about the same, with a very very small nod going to Conroe. However, Conroe has one distinct advantage over the Woodcrest and that is the DDR2 memory, which is designed for single-user. Woodcrest uses FBDIMM memory which is great, if youre running a server, but not so great when you are running memory sensitive applications, such as Winrar.

Intel have only steoed upto the pace of AMD in my mind for gamers. For a company the size of Intel is pritty poor. Just feel sorry for AMD after all that hard work and starting to progress in market share they are now loosing out to Intel again. I would rather be talking about an AMD now but I am now going to buy an iferior CPU. Will be first Intel build for me.

I am definatly an AMD fan boy but as I say not so much that I buy an inferior CPU.

You guys did that one a while ago, I remember dario was still around back then

And am I the only one that thinks this new look sucks horribly?

Man, thg is slowly turning to sh!t, first the cpu forums, then the gfx, and now the site's image itself