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7900GS or 8600GT?

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May 4, 2007 10:57:48 PM

I'm rebuilding my system from it's current 754 agp board and cpu to a 939 dual core system (I can't make the AM2 jump just yet) with PCI-E and I'm stuck as far as the Video Card goes. I'll be running XP until I have no choice but to install vista, so DX10 is not a requirement. I plan on spending no more than 160.00 on a gc and I'm trying to figure out which way to go.

Evga has a 7900GS with 256 mem and a 256 interface that has gotten great reviews from other buyers.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

There are a few 8600GT cards at newegg as well that are within the same range, although they are all 128 interfaces (which seems to be the norm for this card).

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E1681... is one of the 2 I was looking at.

Which direction will provide the most performance for the best price? Or should I drop the Sata 3.0 HD I was going to pick up to replace my sata 1.5 and up what I can spend on a gc? Would that bottle neck the system?

The rest of the system:

Biostar 939 Geforce 6100 M9
Toledo 3800
Corsair XMS 2gb
2 optical drives
1 IDE drive for storage
either 80gb Sata 1.5 or a 160 GB Sata 3 HD
580watt Mushkin PS quad rail 20 amp per

Thoughts and suggestions are greatly appreciated!

Jas

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May 6, 2007 2:08:47 AM

Out of the two: 7900GS. If you can spring just a tad more go for the X1950pro. It's only slightly more than the GS and will perform better.
May 29, 2007 4:21:33 PM

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Out of the two: 7900GS. If you can spring just a tad more go for the X1950pro. It's only slightly more than the GS and will perform better.
I don't get it -- why go with old technology? The 8600 chipset is the newest, and is even superior to the 8800 chipset in that it includes H.264 decoding. This is already a significant feature in that all HD video decoding for the foreseeable future is in H.264 (Blu-Ray, HD-DVD, etc.) and the 8500/8600 series offloads that from the CPU onto the video card. The 8800 series isn't even capable of that.
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May 29, 2007 6:57:39 PM

Because that old technology performs better. The 8600GT is on par with the 7600GT and X1650. If he is looking for performance he should get the 7900GS, which is also cheaper than the 8600GT at this point.
May 29, 2007 7:35:36 PM

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Out of the two: 7900GS. If you can spring just a tad more go for the X1950pro. It's only slightly more than the GS and will perform better.
I don't get it -- why go with old technology? The 8600 chipset is the newest, and is even superior to the 8800 chipset in that it includes H.264 decoding. This is already a significant feature in that all HD video decoding for the foreseeable future is in H.264 (Blu-Ray, HD-DVD, etc.) and the 8500/8600 series offloads that from the CPU onto the video card. The 8800 series isn't even capable of that.Just don't pretend like this added functionality (together with Shader 4.0/DirectX 10) doesn't exist. Not all of us are gaming geeks trying to get a maximum framerate from gun derbys.
May 29, 2007 7:40:05 PM

To the OP, I'd suggest this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I was going to get the EVGA, but it doesn't support HDCP. You need the one that has 625 in the model number, not 624. Yea, the Leadtek is $20, but it'll last you a bit longer... especially if you get a HD-DVD or BD player.

Btw, it performed very well under XP! (S.T.A.L.K.E.R., BF2142, F.E.A.R., HL2, Far Cry, etc.)

I'd highly recommend the Leadtek!

Btw, the fan is extremely quiet!!! And it does not run that hot! My computer runs 24/7 and I've had it since the end of March and no problems at all!
May 29, 2007 7:56:01 PM

There is absolutely NO guarantee that the 8600GT will be able to handle DX10 games anyway. I'm not ignoring the enhanced DVD playback features. The 7900GS can still play HD content and beats the 8600GT in all performance aspects and it's cheaper (in most instances) to boot. Why would I buy the 8600GT?
May 29, 2007 7:56:44 PM

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Out of the two: 7900GS. If you can spring just a tad more go for the X1950pro. It's only slightly more than the GS and will perform better.
I don't get it -- why go with old technology? The 8600 chipset is the newest, and is even superior to the 8800 chipset in that it includes H.264 decoding. This is already a significant feature in that all HD video decoding for the foreseeable future is in H.264 (Blu-Ray, HD-DVD, etc.) and the 8500/8600 series offloads that from the CPU onto the video card. The 8800 series isn't even capable of that.Just don't pretend like this added functionality (together with Shader 4.0/DirectX 10) doesn't exist. Not all of us are gaming geeks trying to get a maximum framerate from gun derbys.

You can't be a gamer, for sure. You'd better re-think what you said.

@ the OP - the 7900gs will spank the 8600gt and even the gts, although the 8 series card supports dx10. But even the powerful cards are struggling with frames in dx10, so you won't do much with it when titles are available...

get the 7900gs, or even better, the x1950pro.
May 29, 2007 8:14:07 PM

and theres also no dx10 games that are out, and im not talking about a patch, first true test of dx10 will be crysis and i really dont think that these cards are gona fail at it

8600gt is crap, the gts isnt so bad give it some time to be optimised and for one thing. theres no way u can say it wont perform in dx10 games considering the first true test will be with crysis, not dx10 patched games

the 7900gs does not spank the 8600gts
May 29, 2007 8:17:02 PM

Hope this isn't really off topic.

So, if the 7900GS outpeforms the 8600GT, would that be the same for mobile GPUs?

As of now, nVidia only has the 8600 GPUs out as top of the line. (Think they're having heat problems with the mobile 8800s).

So can you same that the performance difference would be the same ratio as the desktop counterparts?
May 29, 2007 8:20:36 PM

the mobile gpus are diff from the desktop ones

sad some of u slam the 8600s so easily
http://firingsquad.com/hardware/nvidia_geforce_8600_gts...

performance comparisons, your idea of better performance in every aspect with 7900gs is prety retarded. again i am telling u to get an 8600gts if u want to buy the cards because the 8600gt is not that great of a card to begin with
May 29, 2007 8:29:59 PM

I know that, but I was just wondering if the difference between the desktop GPUs would be identical for the notebooks GPUs.
May 29, 2007 8:31:58 PM

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the 7900gs does not spank the 8600gts


in fact they perform pretty much the same, but in some games at 1600x1200 and above I can see a nice ass spanking.

And if you overclock the 8600gts, an OCed 7900gs will beat it in every game because it scales better and the overclock margin is bigger. :wink:
May 29, 2007 8:35:20 PM

technically the differences should still be around the same, but sometimes the mobile version will be gimped so 7900gt for notebooks and 7900gt for desktops wont be the same so its hard to say

take into account that 8600s stil needs to be optimised, but honestly all i see is slamming of the 8600s and those performance numbers that are posted show it does quite well even though the drivers need work. if u base ur analysis of dx10 performance based on patches, betas and unoptimised code and conclude all the current dx10 cards will hav poor performance. plz stop posting

edit* considering i just realised ur not running dx10, theres no reason for u to buy a dx10 card, go for the x1950pro
May 29, 2007 8:55:07 PM

I would get the xfx 7900gs. It is the best overclocking card in the world!!!
With standard cooling:

" The core was increased from 480MHz all the way to 658MHz (that is 208MHz over stock or a little over 46% higher) and the memory was increased to a very healthy 1648MHz DDR (that is 328MHz DDR or about 25% quicker than default). We continued to run our whole benchmark line up on the card due to these results and our overall opinion was changed in a heart beat. "

Thats from tweaktown. It will own that evga 7900gs. You shouldn't go with the 8600gts because:

A) The second gen dx10 cards are slated to be hugely powerful (see the 8900gtx preview)

B) the 8600 wont be great on dx10 so you would better off with a higher powered dx9 card.

C) What everyone else said about the previous gen having higher performance less features.

At the end of the day even your apsolutely desperate for dx10 wait for 6 months. Otherwise get the xfx 7900gs

hope that helps

patrick
May 29, 2007 9:23:11 PM

When I build my midrange pc (when my money gets better), I am getting the 7900GS because it has good performance at a great price. It will be a great placeholder until I can afford 8800 320mb model.
May 29, 2007 11:06:05 PM

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take into account that 8600s stil needs to be optimised, but honestly all i see is slamming of the 8600s and those performance numbers that are posted show it does quite well even though the drivers need work. if u base ur analysis of dx10 performance based on patches, betas and unoptimised code and conclude all the current dx10 cards will hav poor performance. plz stop posting



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