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I'm going for a $2k or so gaming machine, I plan on overclocking eventually, but not by too much. I'm hoping to order it some time within the next month.

CPU -
Intel Core 2 Duo E6700 Conroe 2.66GHz

Motherboard -
MSI P6N SLI Platinum LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 650i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard

RAM -
Patriot eXtreme Performance 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory

Video card -
EVGA 768-P2-N831-AR GeForce 8800GTX 768MB 384-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Video Card

Power supply -
OCZ GameXStream OCZ700GXSSLI ATX12V 700W Power Supply

Sound card -
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer 7.1 Channels PCI Interface Sound Card

Hard drive -
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3320620AS (Perpendicular Recording Technology) 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive

Case -
COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-UW Black Aluminum Bezel, SECC ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

DVD drive -
Sony NEC Optiarc 18X DVD±R DVD Burner




Monitor -
SAMSUNG 226BW Black 22" 2 ms (GTG) DVI Widescreen LCD Monitor

Headphones -
SENNHEISER HD 280 3.5mm Connector Circumaural PROFESSIONAL Headphone


And for an operating system I was going to get 64 bit Vista, so that I can easily add another 2 gigs of ram if ever I need. I'm pretty scared about compatibility issues with Vista, especially 64 bit, is there anything that might not work with it? Will I be able to get all the latest drivers?... and I've heard that Creative has working drivers for the X-Fi in Vista?

So, any suggestions on things that I should change, or things that won't work?

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All are very good parts.
Go with the e6600, you will get as good of gaming at half the cost.
The case is up to you, kind of a low budget item on an otherwise top end list.
I would wait on Vista for gaming, you can upgrade when the drivers get better, if not then dual boot and use Vista when it works and XP Pro when it won't.

Reply to alcattle

I'm running 64bit Vista, I haven't logged on to XP for about 2 weeks now. Now that I have Vista set up the way I like it's really cool. It took quite a bit to become familiar with it, everything is different. There are only a couple of thing not working correctly for me yet, my scanner (no drivers or software) and my Ipod (same). My X-fi works better than in XP (odd that Creative could make better 64bit drivers than 32bit.). And finally just the other day I got a really good Nvidia Graphics driver (G80 drivers still don't do SLI though). My games all work fine, but a few fps less, that's probably just because of Aero, but I like it. FSX is actually better for some reason on Vista.

Lately I have been thinking about deleting XP and just dual booting Vista and Ubuntu.

Reply to cutthroat

e6600 would be good enough if you don't o/c much.

I'd change the case to this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 34&x=0&y=0

You won't know what I mean until you installed everything & tried to not break anything while removing the harddisk from the case.

Reply to akhilles

Definitely look into getting the 6600. The performance difference between the 6600 and the 6700 isn't really justified in the price difference. Also check out Corsair or Crucial for memory. I know Patriot isn't a bad brand, but when it comes to memory you really want to get something reliable. Although, I've never used Patriot so they may be more reliable than I think. Corsair tends to have better performance than most, but Crucial is extremely reliable memory. OCZ is fairly good on the performance side also. Your setup looks very close to what I want to build. You might want to wait on Vista. I keep hearing mixed reviews about gaming performance. Eventually Microsoft will release a new service pack that will probably address the issues a lot of people are having. For right now XP is better for gaming than Vista. Nice setup though.

Reply to TBYamahaFZ1

Ok then, so, I guess I'll go with the E6600, possibly change my memory... And I guess I'll risk Vista, if I have too many problems get a copy of xp... or something...?

And I'll think about that case, or maybe find some other one I like with good air flow...

Reply to Awake

Both are excellent choices, you are moving into top notch system territory. You might look at the Antec 182, some people say it is a better one of the two. Still one great build.

Reply to alcattle

So if I go with the Antec case, how do I make sure everything will fit? Because it seems sort of tight on space in there with the separate compartments. And how do I make sure the power supply's wires will be long enough to reach everything, which is apparently something you have to make sure of with this case...

Also, is there any particular reason to get that corsair ram over the patriot ram, other than the fact that it's a more reliable brand? That's a good enough reason for me, but I'm just wondering...

Reply to Awake

I've heard that the P182 is easier to manage your cabling than the P180, plus you can get that really cool limited edition mirrored finish if you hurry. It's a really big case, you will have no problems fitting things in.

IMO Patriot RAM is just as good (if not better) than the Corsair RAM, and much cheaper.

Reply to cutthroat

I'm sure the P182 is better, $100 better, unfortunately I can't afford it :?

Reply to Awake

If you forget about the silver one, the difference is $40. Also watch for sales on Antec cases, they happen all the time.

Reply to alcattle

For gaming, I've always used Corsair, maybe just because of it being trusted and reliable. Recently, however, I've been looking at Mushkin memory sticks 2 x's 1 GB rated at 4-4-3-10 DDR2 800. It looks good for lower latency, but might be a bit more expensive than other dual channel sets.

Reply to ira176

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Speaking of Muskin, the RAM is on sale.
mushkin 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800


But that has worse timings than both the Patriot and Corsair memory...?

Reply to Awake

I think it's about time for me to order, especially since there's a nice rebate on the p180 through the 24th, so here are the items that are changed from the original list -

CPU -
Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 Conroe 2.4GHz 4M shared L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor

Motherboard -
GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3R LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard

Power supply -
OCZ GameXStream OCZ600GXSSLI ATX12V 600W Power Supply

Case -
Antec Performance One P180 Silver cold rolled steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

Does everything look good, is there anything I should change?

Reply to Awake

I've done some more looking around and this is I believe going to be my final list, I would greatly appreciate any feedback on it.

CPU -
Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 Conroe 2.4GHz 4M shared L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor

Motherboard -
GIGABYTE GA-P35C-DS3R LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard

Power supply -
OCZ GameXStream OCZ600GXSSLI ATX12V 600W Power Supply

Case -
Antec Performance One P180 Silver cold rolled steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

RAM -
CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory

Video card -
EVGA 768-P2-N831-AR GeForce 8800GTX 768MB 384-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Video Card

Sound card -
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer 7.1 Channels PCI Interface Sound Card

Hard drive -
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3320620AS (Perpendicular Recording Technology) 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive

DVD drive -
Sony NEC Optiarc 18X DVD±R DVD Burner




Monitor -
SAMSUNG 226BW Black 22" 2 ms (GTG) DVI Widescreen LCD Monitor

Headphones -
SENNHEISER HD 280 3.5mm Connector Circumaural PROFESSIONAL Headphone


So, with that motherboard I should just be able to throw in a Penryn or some DDR3 memory when the time comes, right?

Everything will work? The power supply will be sufficient? And the power supply will be able to reach the cpu power connector way on the other side of the board in the p180 case?

Thanks anyone that helps!

Reply to Awake

Well, I got it and everything's working great, the computer's incredible, in case anyone was wondering...

On a side note, is there a way to check gpu temps in Vista? And what's the best program for checking cpu temps?

Also, seems like my hard drive's being accessed all the time, is that normal in Vista?

Reply to Awake

You can use the Nvidia monitor that comes with nTune to monitor your GPU temps.

And yeah it's normal for Vista to access your HDD all the time, it's the prefetcher, superfetch, search indexer and the volume shadow copy service that is using it all the time. They are pretty smart though, they only use idle resources, so if you start something else they will likely stop.

Reply to cutthroat

I tried Nvidia monitor, it didn't work, it kept crashing, I'm not sure if it's because it doesn't work with 64 bit Vista... or I heard it doesn't work with dual core machines.. which seems odd...

And what's a good program for checking cpu temps?

And about the hard drive access, seems like the light flickers every second or so, even when I'm not doing anything...

Oh, and does anyone know what normal temps are for an 8800 gtx?

Reply to Awake
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