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May 6, 2007 5:39:57 PM

So my budget is around 450 dollars and don't know what to buy, Xbox 360 or parts to upgrade my computer, so if i upgrade my computer i will have:

mobo-Msi p965 neo-f
cpu-Intel core2duo e4300
ram-2x1gb a-data 800mhz
vga-Sapphire x1950xt 256mb

So what do you think will have better graphics, and be better for gaming?

More about : xbox 360

May 6, 2007 6:07:25 PM

Well, the 360 is going to better for games, because that's what it's designed for. But, you can do a lot more with a PC, and you can always upgrade it when it starts getting out of date.
Prozac is right, though - you'll need an 8800GTX to get some serious gaming power (more than a 360, I think).
May 6, 2007 6:17:00 PM

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Well, the 360 is going to better for games, because that's what it's designed for. But, you can do a lot more with a PC, and you can always upgrade it when it starts getting out of date.
Prozac is right, though - you'll need an 8800GTX to get some serious gaming power (more than a 360, I think).
The 8800GTX is multiple times faster than the GPU in the Xbox360, but even the X1950XT would show it's advantages over the 360 in titles like F.E.A.R. and Oblivion.
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May 6, 2007 6:18:08 PM

Same in what way? It's just that, I've usually seem same spec PC's run slower just because the 360 is designed and optimized for gaming in particular.
May 6, 2007 6:19:35 PM

My vote is the PC, you can do much more with it then just game. But if gaming is all you really do, then the 360 might be a better option for you.
May 6, 2007 6:37:24 PM

I don't know what to get because i'm both a geek and a gamer, also i don't own HDTV so i can't run the games at 1920:1080 with the xbox 360 i can only run them at 480i which is i think lame.
May 6, 2007 6:48:38 PM

I probably enjoy building and refining my PC to play games more than I actually enjoy playing the games. Only you know what will give you the best experiance. Also, rememeber each system will have a few exclusive titles. Are any of these games a deal maker/breaker for you?


An afterthought: What is the deal with this tech darling junk on a website whose target audience is (in my estimation) composed mostly of male PC eunthusiast?
May 6, 2007 6:49:40 PM

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I don't know what to get because i'm both a geek and a gamer, also i don't own HDTV so i can't run the games at 1920:1080 with the xbox 360 i can only run them at 480i which is i think lame.


Then for the love of your geekness upgrade your computer. :wink:
May 6, 2007 10:04:42 PM

Well, it terms of image quality, an upgraded computer will far out-do the 360 if you don't have a HDTV. But, you might want a 360 for stuff like Halo, and X-Box Live (which I've heard is very good). There's also stuff like the Marketplace where you can buy add-ons for games. For example, you can buy more cars for Test Drive Unlimited on the 360.
May 6, 2007 10:32:56 PM

With the PC there are allot of games that can be modded, and you'll find most of them free.
May 6, 2007 11:00:58 PM

yes there are great games only for Xbox 360, if Kotor 3 is announced only for the Xbox 360 that would be a console selling game for me.
May 6, 2007 11:42:26 PM

Make your decision based on what you want to play.

An enthusiast PC is the worst bang-for-buck platform out there. You have the WORST games (not only do most of them suck, but most of them are buggy, run like crap), and the highest price since the PC hardware cartel is composed of for-profit corporations.

I'd only recommend PC gaming at this time if you have specific titles you really want to play, and have deep pockets.
May 6, 2007 11:47:47 PM

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and have deep pockets.


For?
May 6, 2007 11:53:46 PM

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and have deep pockets.


For?

You want to build a PC gaming rig, it costs ~$1500.

An Xbox360 costs $400.
May 7, 2007 12:03:18 AM

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and have deep pockets.


For?

You want to build a PC gaming rig, it costs ~$1500.

An Xbox360 costs $400.

PC games ~$50
Xbox: games ~$70.
Xbox: gamming, music, slide shows, and playing movies.
PC: Gamming, music, slide show, video editing, video capture, Music editing, free online gamming, free game mods, chatting, Forums, web browsing, typing anything, 3D rendering, Internet videos, research, Movies, Programming, Need I keep listing.

BTW, You can build a good gamming PC for less then $1,000 and it will be better then the Xbox 360.
May 7, 2007 12:44:20 AM

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Make your decision based on what you want to play.

An enthusiast PC is the worst bang-for-buck platform out there. You have the WORST games (not only do most of them suck, but most of them are buggy, run like crap), and the highest price since the PC hardware cartel is composed of for-profit corporations.

I'd only recommend PC gaming at this time if you have specific titles you really want to play, and have deep pockets.


Ermmm, a lot of console games are ported to PC. I've never had buggy problems with games (maybe you should trying buying a game instead of illegally downloading it!). They only run like crap if you don't build a decent PC in the first place, or if the software is messed up.
I built a PC for my housemate recently and I've not seen a single frame skip with Test Drive Unlimited running maxed out...
May 7, 2007 2:33:43 AM

I found the HDR in TD:U a bit overblown on the 360 (as in "I can't see the friggin' road" overblown), but you can switch it off on the PC.

Also, you can get mods when they inevitably arrive. And you can plug in the 360 controller as well to play it, which I highly recommend (unless you have a good steering wheel).
May 7, 2007 11:53:09 PM

I'd spend the money on PC upgrades especially because you dont have a high def TV to hook the Xbox up to......
May 8, 2007 12:34:43 AM

It depends on what you like doing. For me, half of the fun is building/tweaking the computer. However, if you have a game that only runs on the 360 that you want to play, buy the 360. I am currently into M2TW, a PC only game, so I would never even condsider a 360. I did buy the PS2 because I wanted to play GT4. The best performance is the PC, the best value is the 360.
May 8, 2007 12:35:02 AM

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Make your decision based on what you want to play.

An enthusiast PC is the worst bang-for-buck platform out there. You have the WORST games (not only do most of them suck, but most of them are buggy, run like crap), and the highest price since the PC hardware cartel is composed of for-profit corporations.

I'd only recommend PC gaming at this time if you have specific titles you really want to play, and have deep pockets.


I totally disagree with the worst games statement I find it the opposite bought a gaming pc and a xbox 1 and I hardly touched the xbox the games are over simplified and aimed at younger audiences, most of the best games start out as pc games then get ported to consoles when they get offered a load of money eg elder scrolls games-oblivion, morrowind ,rainbow six and they even tried to cash in on total war with that awful total warrior game.

In my view pc games are alot more open ended and innovative the only console I would own would be a Wii. I'm a converted console buyer I owned a nes, mega drive, ps1, xbox but would never go back.
May 8, 2007 12:43:09 AM

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I am currently into M2TW, a PC only game, so I would never even condsider a 360.


My favourite game of all time even better than the original, sorry totally off topic but I love it, prime example of why you should have a pc its the closest to being a general and as complex as chess but in real time (when against human opponents AI can be a bit predictable but its still really good).
May 8, 2007 12:47:11 AM

Yeah, even with the glitches I have been addicted to that game since its release. The expansion pack (kingdoms) sounds even better!!!!! :D  :D  :D 
May 8, 2007 12:47:23 AM

I would by Xbox 360 for GTA 4 i never liked playing Grand theft Auto on PC, but also building and tweaking the pc is quite fun
May 8, 2007 1:07:55 AM

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Yeah, even with the glitches I have been addicted to that game since its release. The expansion pack (kingdoms) sounds even better!!!!! :D  :D  :D 


*Droools* almost forgot about that. :D 
May 8, 2007 1:29:48 AM

well it depends on what games you are playing. I mean if it sports games then get a 360 if its RTS then get PC upgrades.
May 8, 2007 1:56:24 AM

actually i hate sports and rts games, my favorite genres are rpg, simulation, action and fps.
May 8, 2007 2:00:51 AM

well 360 will have mass effect GTA IV, halo 3 that wont be on PC inititally.
May 8, 2007 2:31:14 AM

If you want to do more then just game, play music, and watch movies, then focus on your pc, if that's all you want to do, go 360. It's a toss up with the games you like to play. All though you can buy a whole bunch of old games that will work on the pc, were the Xbox 360 only has the Xbox library and Xbox online, and even then it's not the full libraries.
May 8, 2007 2:44:22 AM

You said FPS. Therefor, PC wins. Console FPS = Using a Controller... Mouse and Keyboard = Win.
May 8, 2007 2:55:05 AM

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You said FPS. Therefor, PC wins. Console FPS = Using a Controller... Mouse and Keyboard = Win.


I prefer a keyboard and mouse, I suck with a controller, but I have plenty of friends that can't use the keyboard/mouse set up, and can only use a controller in a FPS. A plus for PC is that you can plug a controller that looks much like the Xbox, ps1/2/3, and cube controllers to the pc and play games on the pc that way.
May 8, 2007 4:02:03 AM

well if he wants halo 3, gears of war or CoD 3 and possibly 4 he will want a 360.
May 8, 2007 4:07:52 AM

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You said FPS. Therefor, PC wins. Console FPS = Using a Controller... Mouse and Keyboard = Win.


How many nights have we all stayed up playing Goldeneye, Halo & Halo 2,
Rainbow Six?

One element we're missing is your friends. Do you have friends over to game? That's always fun when you have a crew over. Or, if you go XBOX Live, then you don't necessarily need people at your house.
May 8, 2007 4:09:07 AM

Yeah, you really don't need to spend THAT much to get more power then a 360 I'm sure.. I prefer PC as you can tell, I can't aim with a controller for crap.

@darkangelism.. Who would want to play COD3 lol.. COD2 is MUCH better, and now COD4 is coming out, by Infinity Ward no less.
May 8, 2007 10:12:35 AM

yeah with computer i can play with my friends only online which sucks, with consoles you can play games in your home in front of a TV, personally i think multiplayer gaming is better with consoles.I love consoles but i also love PC's.Now I'm going to upgrade my PC but in summer i will get Xbox 360.
May 8, 2007 3:05:33 PM

this same old thread is started once again. both totally different experiences, both have pros and cons. only similarity is can game on both.

i have both. my 360 hooked up to a 65" 16:9 hdtv at 1080i. gears, rainbow6 vegas, graw, fight night 3 all look amazing on it. it very fun "pick up and play" and wireless controllers are very appropriate in living room. i also have a harmon/kardon avr6xx (forgot acutal model) with 5.1 infinity setup. i can literally shake the couch when i chuck a grenade. i had my tv and stereo well before my 360 to watch movies and football in hd so wasn't part of my 360 price equation.

i also have a decent pc and that is awesome as well (although my xbox and home theater beat it in wow factor). it obviously does way more than just game. photo & video editing, asian porn downloading, dvd burning, web surfing, taxes and bills, etc. i also enjoy tinkering and tweaking as well.

last thing is the unique experiences each brings in the form of exclusives. guitar hero and halo are amazing. sports, fighting and racing games are also better suited on 360. however, rts just don't stand a chance on 360. company of heros and warcraft3 are unbelievable and can't be played on 360. shooters are better suited on pc but i am really comfortable playing them on 360. co-op play with friends on couch with a beer is great easy fun, but so is a 64 player game of bf2 on pc. as far as people complaing about cost of console games vs pc, i haven;t paid more than $45 for any game yet except guitar hero ($90 because of controller). look for sales and be patient. i have gotten most around $35 & i picked up graw for $20
and cod2 for $15.

when it comes down to it, get both if can afford it. both have different experience to offer with common thread being gaming. if only choose one, choose by style and types of games you enjoy the most.
May 8, 2007 3:22:20 PM

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Make your decision based on what you want to play.

An enthusiast PC is the worst bang-for-buck platform out there. You have the WORST games (not only do most of them suck, but most of them are buggy, run like crap), and the highest price since the PC hardware cartel is composed of for-profit corporations.

I'd only recommend PC gaming at this time if you have specific titles you really want to play, and have deep pockets.

While I disagree with your entire statement, the part in bold made me laugh. Like Microsoft isn't looking to make as much money as possible and their founder and CEO isn't the richest man in the world.
May 8, 2007 4:00:40 PM

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You said FPS. Therefor, PC wins. Console FPS = Using a Controller... Mouse and Keyboard = Win.


How many nights have we all stayed up playing Goldeneye, Halo & Halo 2,
Rainbow Six?

One element we're missing is your friends. Do you have friends over to game? That's always fun when you have a crew over. Or, if you go XBOX Live, then you don't necessarily need people at your house.

PC, invinted online gameing. :p 
May 8, 2007 4:09:42 PM

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You said FPS. Therefor, PC wins. Console FPS = Using a Controller... Mouse and Keyboard = Win.


How many nights have we all stayed up playing Goldeneye, Halo & Halo 2,
Rainbow Six?

One element we're missing is your friends. Do you have friends over to game? That's always fun when you have a crew over. Or, if you go XBOX Live, then you don't necessarily need people at your house.

PC, invinted online gameing. :p 
Seriously. I was using MPlayer for my Quake2 clan meetings back in '98, which was an entire software sweet that allowed people to download games, chat in lobby's and specific user created rooms, start games, join games, talk via microphone and tons of other things. This was back in '98. PC users have had what console users are just now discovering.
May 8, 2007 5:21:13 PM

As the others have said, it depends on what games you're into.

To me, Guitar Hero II on the 360 is the most fun and addictive game since CounterStrike: Source (on the PC, obviously). That was worth the price right there, but I also have a nice 50" HDTV.

Sometimes its just nice to relax in the recliner and game on the big screen.

Overall, though, I think the better games, by far, are on the PC. The best RPGs, FPSs (I say this because IMHO playing with the xbox360 controller in R6: Vegas was aweful and turned me off of 360 shooters (perhaps because I am decent at CS:S but slow with the controller, who knows?)), adventrure games, RTS, and especially sims. And todays midrange PCs are more powerful gaming machines than the 360.

Plus there's all the other stuff one can do with a PC.

Oh, and it does NOT cost $1500 for a nice gaming rig. I'd say you start seeing diminishing returns above $1000 if you can OC a bit.

Guitar Hero II is pretty awesome though.
May 8, 2007 6:18:05 PM

If stability/durability is of importance to you, I would advice against a 360. I myself own a 360 and I can say with confidence that they use very cheap material to build it. Don't expect to buy one 360 and be set for the next 3 years. You will most likely get problems with the 3 red lights and dvd reader (laser). During the warranty, all is good but after that, you are on your own.

I realize it is the same for a pc, but I have owned several pcs (more than 4) over the last 12 years and I have never had to replace a part (except for a hard drive once). I cannot say the same for the 360 however (I have add it since launch...
May 8, 2007 6:28:56 PM

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You said FPS. Therefor, PC wins. Console FPS = Using a Controller... Mouse and Keyboard = Win.


How many nights have we all stayed up playing Goldeneye, Halo & Halo 2,
Rainbow Six?

One element we're missing is your friends. Do you have friends over to game? That's always fun when you have a crew over. Or, if you go XBOX Live, then you don't necessarily need people at your house.

PC, invinted online gameing. :p 
Seriously. I was using MPlayer for my Quake2 clan meetings back in '98, which was an entire software sweet that allowed people to download games, chat in lobby's and specific user created rooms, start games, join games, talk via microphone and tons of other things. This was back in '98. PC users have had what console users are just now discovering.

You guys missed the point I was making. I wasn't saying console games invented online gaming. I was simply saying an area to consider is whether or not the OP games with friends at his house or is more into online gaming. If he's more inclined to have friends over than to play online, than console would be the way to go. And, once again, depending on the games, online gaming could be better either way.
Let's also consider that not everyone games online (although it is growing considerably on both PC and console)
I know I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed but I am well aware of internet gaming for PC.
May 9, 2007 5:29:08 AM

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I would by Xbox 360 for GTA 4 i never liked playing Grand theft Auto on PC, but also building and tweaking the pc is quite fun


What about mouse aiming? Once you play with mouse and keyboard you just can't go back.
May 9, 2007 3:38:01 PM

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I would by Xbox 360 for GTA 4 i never liked playing Grand theft Auto on PC, but also building and tweaking the pc is quite fun


What about mouse aiming? Once you play with mouse and keyboard you just can't go back.

Soooo, true. :)  I can't play Halo, unless it's on the pc. I'll just miss out on the fps gaming on the consols untel someone finds a good, easy, non-anoying mod for mouse and keyboard on them.
May 10, 2007 1:52:35 AM

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I would by Xbox 360 for GTA 4 i never liked playing Grand theft Auto on PC, but also building and tweaking the pc is quite fun


What about mouse aiming? Once you play with mouse and keyboard you just can't go back.

Soooo, true. :)  I can't play Halo, unless it's on the pc. I'll just miss out on the fps gaming on the consols untel someone finds a good, easy, non-anoying mod for mouse and keyboard on them.

I always thought you could plug a USB mouse and keyboard into the 360 :?

Maybe not with XB1 titles?
May 10, 2007 2:10:18 AM

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I would by Xbox 360 for GTA 4 i never liked playing Grand theft Auto on PC, but also building and tweaking the pc is quite fun


What about mouse aiming? Once you play with mouse and keyboard you just can't go back.

Soooo, true. :)  I can't play Halo, unless it's on the pc. I'll just miss out on the fps gaming on the consols untel someone finds a good, easy, non-anoying mod for mouse and keyboard on them.

I always thought you could plug a USB mouse and keyboard into the 360 :?

Maybe not with XB1 titles?

Well the original Xbox was a pain from what I understand, you had to configure the drivers on a card and set things up a certain way, I haven't checked to see about the 360.

P.S. Your avatar reminds me of the black and white kittens that are under my desk. :) 
May 10, 2007 2:45:25 AM

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Make your decision based on what you want to play.

An enthusiast PC is the worst bang-for-buck platform out there. You have the WORST games (not only do most of them suck, but most of them are buggy, run like crap), and the highest price since the PC hardware cartel is composed of for-profit corporations.

I'd only recommend PC gaming at this time if you have specific titles you really want to play, and have deep pockets.
I disagree with almost all of your statement. First off, the "worst games" is subjective to each and every individual, which really is the ONLY reason to go console, IF theres a console ONLY game you have to have. And secondly your FOR PROFIT comments are bass ackwards. The consoles are sold cheaply, actually loses money (save for the wii). They make their money on the games, thus the 70$ console game vs a 50$ PC game. Oh and ummm, theyre all in business, so I guess profit IS the REAL name of the game
May 10, 2007 3:19:18 AM

It all depends on what you want to do really. I've always been a PC gamer and a console gamer(haven't yet acquired a newgen console). The only way I see it is that each have their ups and downs. "Gaming Power", if you're referring to the performance of the hardware, isn't important here. Check out the games on each and see which platform seems more appealing based on that. Also, do you prefer gaming sitting up straight at your desk or reclined in a couch in front of a large screen? I personally prefer the couch even if I currently do a ton more PC.

To the people complaining about aiming with a controller: You are whining noobs who need to learn to use more than one platform. Have a good day :) 
May 10, 2007 3:21:13 AM

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PC games ~$50
Xbox: games ~$70.

Actually, you can get them for fr-

*runs from mods*
May 10, 2007 3:24:56 AM

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PC games ~$50
Xbox: games ~$70.

Actually, you can get them for fr-

*runs from mods*

I agree.

Also, I'd like to add for the console's side, there's no installing or tinkering with settings when you get a game. Pop it in and it's good to go!
May 10, 2007 3:32:05 AM

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PC games ~$50
Xbox: games ~$70.

Actually, you can get them for fr-

*runs from mods*

True, but it's usually easier to get the pc kind near me....

*runs, and jumps in running car.*
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