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September 13, 2007 5:39:30 PM

Hi there everyone I just built a new computer and was hoping that I could install my old version of win98 and just use a $99 upgrade to winXP so that I don't haved to spend the $200 that it normally costs. however now that I have put it together I can't seem to get my system to even read the win98 disk, at first it would say that it cannot boot from CD/DVD but now it just dosnt say anything if I try and boot from CD.
My computer parts are as follows:

GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3R LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor
EVGA 320-P2-N811-AR GeForce 8800GTS 320MB 320-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 SLI Supported Video Card
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3250410AS 250GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
2GB DDR2
CD/DVD read/write drive

I don't know if this system is too new to support win98 or, as I was told at best buy, possibly cause a problem because it can run 64-bit windows. If there is anything I can do in order to use win98 I would really like to save the money with only an upgrade to winxp instead of the full version.

PS: Both HD and DVD drives are SATA only which was a problem because I have never used it before but I am able to get both recognized and they seem to be working now.

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Anonymous
September 14, 2007 11:08:29 AM

You don't have to install Win 98 to use the XP Upgrade CD. Just boot from the XP CD and do a normal install. You'll be asked to insert the Win 98 CD to prove you own a previous version of Windows.

Grumpy
March 3, 2008 11:17:20 AM

I think he wants to instal 98 on his computer. For Sata I don't think 98 would work with it. XP you need to hit F6 to instal raid dirvers or you'll get BSOD on xp. That is why I have Vista Ultimate.
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Anonymous
March 4, 2008 11:42:05 AM

xhunterx405 wrote: "install my old version of win98 and just use a $99 upgrade to winXP" He wants to install Windows 98 so he can Uprgade it to Windows XP. Reread my post.

Grumpy
March 12, 2008 2:54:34 PM

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You don't have to install Win 98 to use the XP Upgrade CD. Just boot from the XP CD and do a normal install. You'll be asked to insert the Win 98 CD to prove you own a previous version of Windows.

Grumpy


I tried this recently on an old machine and a message came back something to the effect the XP upgrade was not a bootable CD. In the end I could not install XP this way, from the XP upgrade cd?
Anonymous
March 13, 2008 10:14:48 AM

Where did the XP upgrade CD come from? Is it a genuine MS CD? I've never had a problem booting from an Upgrade CD.

Grumpy
March 13, 2008 11:28:47 AM

Well, It is absolutely a legit retail copy of upgrade to Win xp home. I bought it years ago and still have it installed on a win 98, PIII, 450 MHz Gateway system I bought for my busines in 1999 I believe. I retired my home built PI, 100 MHz, 1 GB HD monster and upgraded to that beast. The computer still works perfect upgraded from 98 to XP. But, I have tried just installing that XP upgrade CD stand alone on a freshly formatted HD and the OS would not install. Microsft would not allow the CD to install XP stand alone from that CD. I was surprised myself, but it is true.
Anonymous
March 13, 2008 8:20:40 PM

You tried booting from the Upgrade CD? Every Upgrade CD I've used has been bootable. Want me to burn a copy of mine? You can use it with your Product Key. You also need a CD with a previous version of Windows.

Grumpy
March 13, 2008 8:36:26 PM

I have so many copies of Xp. It's no big deal. I had heard that I could boot from the XP upgrade install CD and just load Xp that way like you said, but the disk I have would not allow it. It doesn't matter, I have numerous XP home Cd's I have bought over the years. Maybe I'll have time to try and load the XP upgrade again sometime and confirm my experience a second time. I was surprised when it was disallowed the first time, but my attempt was shot down my MS.
April 6, 2008 10:12:32 PM

You cheap scape, just put vista on it £60/$120, look on scan.co.uk/newegg.com (UK/US)
Anonymous
April 7, 2008 11:00:11 AM

dobby said:
You cheap scape, just put vista on it £60/$120, look on scan.co.uk/newegg.com (UK/US)


Because Vista sucks! You couldn't pay me to Vista on a computer.

Grumpy
April 22, 2008 7:13:58 PM

You cannot install Windows 98 on a computer with a CPU faster than or equal to 2.0 GHz. I was going to do the same thing about 5 agos when I built a PC with a Celeron 2.4GHz in it. Took me about a week of being PC-less to find an article about the problem.
April 30, 2008 1:16:41 PM

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Because Vista sucks! You couldn't pay me to Vista on a computer.

Grumpy

vista doesnt suck. anything you dont like about it in comparison to XP can be turned off. eg, GUI, UAC...
Anonymous
April 30, 2008 11:04:38 PM

You can turn all that stuff off and it's still a pig. How many Vista computers do you work on in a week? 1?

Grumpy
June 1, 2008 4:33:26 PM

xhunterx405 said:
Hi there everyone I just built a new computer and was hoping that I could install my old version of win98 and just use a $99 upgrade to winXP so that I don't haved to spend the $200 that it normally costs. however now that I have put it together I can't seem to get my system to even read the win98 disk, at first it would say that it cannot boot from CD/DVD but now it just dosnt say anything if I try and boot from CD.
My computer parts are as follows:

GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3R LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor
EVGA 320-P2-N811-AR GeForce 8800GTS 320MB 320-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 SLI Supported Video Card
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3250410AS 250GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
2GB DDR2
CD/DVD read/write drive

I don't know if this system is too new to support win98 or, as I was told at best buy, possibly cause a problem because it can run 64-bit windows. If there is anything I can do in order to use win98 I would really like to save the money with only an upgrade to winxp instead of the full version.

PS: Both HD and DVD drives are SATA only which was a problem because I have never used it before but I am able to get both recognized and they seem to be working now.


Quote:
You don't have to install Win 98 to use the XP Upgrade CD. Just boot from the XP CD and do a normal install. You'll be asked to insert the Win 98 CD to prove you own a previous version of Windows.

Grumpy



Grumpy is dead on with what he told you however the Win98 installation CD has to be a genuine MSFT installation CD, [Not a copy], or it will not accept it!

And to you, Installing Win98 in the first place and using FDISK and such is done first through the Floppy Drive using a Win98 Start up disk, but as Grumpy said, you do not have to install Win98 first, however even if you do, the upgrade is still going to ask you to insert the original Win98 Installation CD to verify your original copy of Win98 is legit, and it will not accept a copied disk.

If the install goes OK with a genuine Win98 installation CD, keep the Win98 disk with the upgrade disk, in case you have to reinstall later on.
August 5, 2008 10:51:40 AM

As far as i know it is not legal to transfer OS from old pc to new one. Legally you can use upgrade only on your old computer. With your hardware and judging by your VGA card you planing on playing some games, so it you will be better of with Vista. As for the "Vista hater", it a known fact that most of the "Vista haters" are technophobes or just blame Vista for their incompetents, Which one are you.
August 5, 2008 11:55:04 AM

arkadi said:
As for win 98 as far as i know it is not legal to transfer OS from old pc to new one. Legally you can use upgrade only on your old computer.



Its not illegal to transfer from one machine to another, its illegal to have one copy on more than one machine at the time. Transferring an OP/SYS because of an upgrade or component failure replacement is done all the time and its allowed by MSFT up through WinXP, however with Vista it will be a completely different story because besides the EULA, MSFT has plainly stated at the website the OEM version of VISTA is M/B specific, however the retail version of Vista can still be transfered to another machine.

A good example of the use of an upgrade disk is if you wanted to go from XP Home OEM to XP Pro and not loose any of your old files, under those circumstances a Repair installation of XP Pro does not work, so you'd be forced to go the upgrade route, I guess the best way to look at it is if MSFT allows it, its not illegal no matter whats written in fine print somewhere.


arkadi said:
As for the "vista hater", it a fact that most of the "Vista haters" or technophobes or just blame Vista couse of their incompetents, Which one are you, of may be both.



As for that comment all I have to say is Vista is new completely written from scratch, as with anything brand new it takes time to get the bugs out, by the time MSFT has released SP2 for Vista, it hopefully will have gained its Sea Legs, [FYI, Thats a Maritime Term], just because a lot of older programs will just flat not work with Vista period and a lot of people spent quite a chunk of change on these programs, and they continue to run XP doesn't mean they're incompetent, so your little comment there is completely a childs rant.

By the way its Incompetence not "incompetents".

Most people sticking with XP for the time being have the skills to know the difference between the two operating systems, and choose their course of action based on the facts of their own discoveries, I'm personally not a Vista hater but I'm presently choosing not to run Vista, I have the Ultimate version but its presently not installed on any of my machines, it just doesn't perform as well as XP does, pretty simple reasoning Eh!

I guess IYO that makes me incompetent, however I have the choice between the two and at this time I choose not to run Vista.




August 5, 2008 6:54:32 PM

I think you still need to give it a shot... newer drivers and updates have really narrowed that performance gap.
August 5, 2008 8:17:43 PM

@Zoron

I am when I can afford to get another HDD to install it on, because I will be dual booting Vista and XP on independent drives, and right now thats kinda low on the priority pole if you know what I' mean.

The HDD I had first bought to run Vista on got moved to external backup HDD status, so its completely not in the running for OP/SYS status.

I'm extremely curious as to how the X-FI Extreme Gamer Fatal1ty soundcard I bought does with Vista now since it actually came with XP and Vista individual installation disks.

Surely Creative has the issues resolved by now?

Hopefully

!