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2 8800 GTX's. What can power them? Now a moniter hunt.

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what can power this system I am going to build:

1) I am going to get a 8800GTX superclocked http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... and want to get another one later to run in SLI

2) The EVGA nforce 680i MB.

3) e6600 overclocked to ~3.0GHZ with Tuniq Tower

4) 2 gb of patriot extreme performance DDR2 1066

5) WD Raptor 150gb. (May get another one if needed)

6) This Samsung DVD burner http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E1682....

7) View Sonic VX922 2ms 19 inches

8) Creative sound blaster X-fi xtreme gamer 7.1 ( Why is the 8 turning into a smily???)

9) P7800 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E1682...

10) Through it all in in an antec 900 case. With a logitec g5 and logitec g15 keyboard


So what power supply should I get for what I have now and what I will get in the future? And also is there any recommendations or problems with my system? Thanx for reading.

Tough stuff you got there. For the SLi part, just get 1. The monitor you selected only supports 1280x1024. SLi won't be fully expressed with that resolution.

Here is one that I recommend:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Only if you decide to SLi, then I advise something like that for a monitor. Otherwise the Viewsonic one you selected is just fine for 1 GTX.

Powersupply wise, I'd vote for a Enermax Galaxy if you use 2 GTX's.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Bear in mind, this thing is rather long, but will fit in the Antec 900 no problem.

But if your only going to use 1, then here is this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Good luck. :D 
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Here, this should definitely have enough power for that system
http://www.xoxide.com/silverstone-strider-sst-st1000.ht...
Plus it's modular and has pcie 2.0 rails

PS: Consider the sata version of that drive, it's a nice one, though x64 doesn't like it. And dump the raptor for two larger drives, I've personally tested this and raptors won't make a noticeable difference in boot times or most applications as long as you get one of the newer sata 300 (3gb/s) 7200.10 drives. And also check out the pc-v2000b case by lian li (newegg doesn't carry it, but many other shops do), very expandable and upgradeable one, that or go with the p182, can't go wrong with either of them, though I would go with the v2000b if you plan to watercool or phase change.

almost forgot, for gaming, I would get a slightly larger monitor for the resolution, no amount of eye candy imo can make up for the tiny resolutions on the 19", go for a 22 or 20.1, especially with 20.1 sceptres being dirt cheap with pretty darn good quality

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That monitor is a waste of a single 8800GTX, so why would you consider two?


He said "later". Maybe hell buy a new monitor by then.

I sure hope he does!

Yeah, the 8800 GTX <i>does</i> fit in the Antec Nine Hundred. With a little bit of room to spare too. It even fit in my Cooler Master Mystique 632 - which is even a bit more shallow than my new Nine Hundred.

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Good to know thanks. Back when i first got the 900 i did measure to make sure i could at least get the 8800GTS in there in case i ever upgraded. Nice to know that the GTX will fit.


You're kidding right?
The 900 is one of the highest-end cases on earth.

Its.. its like asking if a 1000w PSU can handle an FX 5600.

everyone is yelling at me for wanting 2 for a 19 inch moniter. The resean I will get another would be after a year or so when games get a little more demanding. I would like to have a PSU that could handle SLI when I do. But seing how I guess it would help to have a bigger moniter can someone recommend one 20-22 inches big. I dont want a HUGE one because I like to go to my friends house and have LAN parties and stuff. And what response time do I need to have no ghosting. The 2ms response time is mainly why I chose the veiwsonic.

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19" for 8800GTX in SLI? Are you mad or something?


its gonna be needed if he wanna play crysis with everything on full detail :) .. do you think you will play crysis with a 1920x1200 res with 2 gtx's?

Theorectically it is said that Dirext X 10 can process graphics 8 fold what DX9 games can, due to the processing efficiency.

I',m guessing two 8800GTX's OC'ed with a quadcore proccessor (for the Physics) will be able to run Crysis Maxed at 2560x1600.

I hope.

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everyone is yelling at me for wanting 2 for a 19 inch moniter. The resean I will get another would be after a year or so when games get a little more demanding. I would like to have a PSU that could handle SLI when I do. But seing how I guess it would help to have a bigger moniter can someone recommend one 20-22 inches big. I dont want a HUGE one because I like to go to my friends house and have LAN parties and stuff. And what response time do I need to have no ghosting. The 2ms response time is mainly why I chose the veiwsonic.


At that point when you think your rig is too slow to handle games they probably won't be selling 8800GTX's or they will be so scarce the price you will pay will be more than a newer single card that produces less heat, consumes, less power and performs a lot better.

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You could try Samsung 226BW. It's 22" and has 2ms response time.


I have read mixed reviews on that. Do you or know anyone else have it. I heard like the picture was not great and that it just wasn't all that great.


Also what about the fact that its widescreen. Would gaming with a widescreen be a pain?

I have the sceptre 20.1 inch and it has a great picture.
Im sure the samsung has a great picture too.

Dont worry about the 2ms response time, it is a marketing
gimmick.

I havent had any problems with widescreen gaiming.
You should be fine.

IcY18 you are right-I think....


I thought it over and you are probly right. So i think I will go for a ocz gamextreme 700W if that can power my system without SLI.



Well since only 2 people recommended me a PSU and everyone said stuff about moniters, can people help me find a better moniter. I am starting to like the samsung. Anyone recommend something else?? I am working on a 20 inch iMac and I guess I could lug a 22 inch LCD screen, because it would be much thinner than an iMac.


BTW what response time do I need for no ghosting?

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So i think I will go for a ocz gamextreme 700W if that can power my system without SLI.


That should work fine.


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BTW what response time do I need for no ghosting?


Dont even worry about that, the industry,s fastest is 3ms anyway.
you probably wont see any ghosting with a 6ms or higher response time
anyway.

I dont see any and my sceptre is a cheaper brand monitor.

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...And what response time do I need to have no ghosting. The 2ms response time is mainly why I chose the veiwsonic.


As a general rule of thumb, any monitor with 8ms or less response will provide little to no ghosting with gaming, and 4ms is ideal for gaming. 2ms response could be overkill...

back to the original topic. I've seen a core2quad, 2x8800gtx's, 4xhdd, 2gb ram, 3 case fans, 5 usb devices and some more powered by a decent 550W supply.

I dont have the link to hand but this was a labs test on a hardware site, they ran it 24/7 for a week without any trouble what-so-ever. A 'normal' pc rarely draws over 350w i believe

As far as psu's go, quality and aperage and number of 12v rails are what get my vote

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Jeeze guys I am feel'n the hate. Can't we all just get along. :lol: 


Rob or slinrob does in fact know what he is talking about/prettymuch.
he does have what he says he has.

Its just his attitude.

oh he is also a cop 8O or use to be.

wouldnt want to get pulled over by someone with his mentallity.
you would probably get some thing like this.

I would just like to point out that I know rob himself uses the pc power and cooling silencer 750w before the pcie 2.0 revision, and runs sli gtxs and a high clocked conroe, so you don't need all that much power necessarily, just amperes and efficiency

ya, i already apologized in the post above, apparently i got hte wrong link. The one he has is perfectly fine, thought he meant a different power supply. (i mixed up 2 threads). I've seen many people post information randomly that is "Questionable" at best, so when i saw 55 posts, i didn't bother double checking. I apologize again.

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You could try Samsung 226BW. It's 22" and has 2ms response time.

That's a top pick there, I've had my eye on it for a while

That's what I bought. Very good monitor so far. Its also the "S" model for those who think that's important. Of course, that leaves the question, to go SLI/Crossfire or not? Guess I'll have to see how the games work on it. The only problem I've had, per se', is getting used to the wide screen. It does stretch things out of shape a bit when they're meant for square screens.

Hey antonwalker,
Man, only a week back, i bought viewsonic vg1930wm that has a response time of 5 ms and I can see no ghossting whatsoever in anything I do(be it gaming or movies or visual studio or maya)...moreover a response time of 2ms is a myth(or a marketing gimmick as you can call it). some people say that 8ms or below is good for gaming,I would say " I dunno about 8 ms but I do know about 5 and it has no ghosting or anything even if you play the games at non native resolutions"...so mate this is my input for monitor....
Now for even one 8800gtx you wont buy a 19" LCD with the resolution of 1440*900...so please see other big monitors also and I recommend viewsonic...........
and happy gaming......... :D 

You, sceptre isn't half bad for the 20.1 series, though their 22 and 23" models tend to have dvi and hdmi port problems. Samsung, lg, benQ, viewsonic, and even acer (specific ones) offer pretty darn good products, so I would chose from one of those if I had the cash, but if I didn't, sceptre's 20.1 inchers at $170 are great value monitors

Not necessarily, many of the better monitors like lg's 22" using samsung's s panel (and you wonder where the panel shortage is coming from) have 1:1 mapping, and 4:# rescaling which help with that issue considerably, though I agree it doesn't beat a full screen crt

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I'd go better cpu first, you've been planning that for a while anyways


I've been buy one piece at a time for a new build. The main things I have left are cpu, motherboard and video card. I figure that after the benches come out next week on the X2900 XT, I can plan on buying that or a 8800 GTS, depending on performance. I just wish that AMD would hurry up and release their new cpu so I could make a rational choice between it or an Intel cpu.

Well, supposedly the investors that saw the barcelona private demo in April were very happy with it, and the delay came from amd finding a way to get rid of the integrated mem controller bottleneck somewhat and boost barcelona stock clocks up 500mhz respectively, which can only be good, so I'm this will be worth the wait, but of course, this is theinquerer we're talking that posted this

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back to the original topic. I've seen a core2quad, 2x8800gtx's, 4xhdd, 2gb ram, 3 case fans, 5 usb devices and some more powered by a decent 550W supply.
Was the system idling? :roll:

So have I, it was something like a corsair 620w or 520w psu, don't remember where, but the psu managed to run the system, but I wouldn't bet my money on that system with anything below an 850w psu

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back to the original topic. I've seen a core2quad, 2x8800gtx's, 4xhdd, 2gb ram, 3 case fans, 5 usb devices and some more powered by a decent 550W supply.

I dont have the link to hand but this was a labs test on a hardware site, they ran it 24/7 for a week without any trouble what-so-ever. A 'normal' pc rarely draws over 350w i believe

As far as psu's go, quality and aperage and number of 12v rails are what get my vote


There is a very new article referring to just that, how much power does this system draw?

Core 2 Quad @ 3.5Ghz
2 8800GTXs
Asus Striker Extreme ( most power drawing mobo)
2 hard drives in raid0

the max power draw was 442 watts

While you wouldn't want to run a 500W psu on this thing constantly, any quality psu with accurate ratings of 600W could run this. Needless to say 1000W psu's are quite the hype lately and are more times inefficient because the power load on them is far less than on a 6-700W psu.

Not only on top of that the only time you would ever get that power draw is when your doing stress testing programs and such. No game or program would ever require that combination of power from the cpu or graphics at the same time.

Link is HERE

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I have this monitor, and it works very very well. A little more pricey than the samsung, but you dont have the whole dynamic contrast thing or have to worry about which submodel you get.


It doesn't say so in the newegg description, but 3000:1 on a 22" lcd means they're using dynamic contrast. Feel free to cross check that with LG's site.

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I have this monitor, and it works very very well. A little more pricey than the samsung, but you dont have the whole dynamic contrast thing or have to worry about which submodel you get.


It doesn't say so in the newegg description, but 3000:1 on a 22" lcd means they're using dynamic contrast. Feel free to cross check that with LG's site.

Hmmm, I checked their site because I began to wonder myself, and there isn't a single mention of DC being used anywhere. Maybe I missed it, but fromt he reviews I read of the Samsung monitor it seemed like it was their technology to step up 1000:1 to 3000:1 contrast. I have never seen an option for DC on my monitor either, but I could check when i get home. As far as I know its only 3000:1.

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Not necessarily, many of the better monitors like lg's 22" using samsung's s panel (and you wonder where the panel shortage is coming from) have 1:1 mapping, and 4:# rescaling which help with that issue considerably, though I agree it doesn't beat a full screen crt


One thing that surprised me, though I should have checked the measurements ahead of time, was how small the 22" LDCs are. I mean they sound big, but they aren't. Its actually the same height as my 19" LCD, but just a couple inches longer. Even more, its got a smaller screen size than the Sony CRT 22" that it replaced. It is a bit clearer than the CRT, but its biggest advantage is in having less weight, not in screen size. I though of exchanging it back for a 24" model, but those were at least $200 more, so I held off.

The point is not that if you can afford 2x8800GTXs you can afford a 1000W psu, the point is that people kicking and screaming like yourself are over exaggerating the power draw of such a system making people think they need a 1000W psu. Why is it that the cold hard fact that a Core 2 Quad @ 3.5Ghz and 2x8800GTXs only draws 442w is so hard to realize. And once again this is under stress testing of both the cpu and the grahpics cards, no such program or game would stress both the cpu and the graphics to 100% utilization let alone one of them to 100% utilization for any decent amount of time.

So 442w is the absolute MAX the system will draw its easily justifiable to say a quality 600W psu would be able to handle that system. Since high end systems like these don't last long, i.e. they get replaced sometimes as quickly as their bought cause their enthusiasts systems, long term use(more than 2 years) isn't even a worry.

i would gladly recommend this psu to run that system Corsair HX620W
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