Pump selection for MCT-5 and dual TMG2 radiator setup

[neurobashing]

Since I am having a real hard time finding place where I could order ThermoChill radiator and Lian Li case I wanted I hoped for Thermaltake since the local pc shop here can order them.

I already have a Apogee GT CPU(E6600) block and a single BFG WC OC 8800 GTX

http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/product/Chassis/fulltower/Mozarttx/ve1000sna.asp
1 x Thermaltake Mozart Tx VE1000SNA (CASE)

http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/product/Liquid/Upgrade/cl-w0032/cl-w0032.asp
1 x Aquabay M1 (CL-W0032)
Water level/flow indicator
use's 2 x 5.25" drive bays

http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/product/Liquid/Upgrade/cl-w0103/cl-w0103.asp
1 x AquaBay M5 (CL-W0103)
Liquid level/temp alarm/monitor

http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/product/Liquid/Upgrade/cl-w0098/cl-w0098.asp
Aqua T.M.G Series - TMG2 (CL-W0098)
2 x Dual radiator (12cm fan)


I would be using the 2 radiator on top of the case where there is the 4 fan exaust.

I would be using MCT-5 coolant and since all the radiator are Alu and my CPU/CPG use's copper since the MCT-5 I wont have to worry about metal mixes..(oxidation) and will the MCT-5 fuild will flow in those thermaltake radiator since the fluid is thick will it cause flow rate problem?

I haven't yet selected the pump but I am looking to get one of those 2

http://swiftnets.com/products/mcp655.asp (10 ft of head / 50 PSI (3.5 BAR))
or
http://swiftnets.com/products/mcp350.asp (13ft of head /22 PSI (1.5 BAR))

Witch pump would you chose?
and you guys think those radiator will have the power to reduce my temperature for my CPU/GPU for some little OC ?

 

[Rugger]

finding place where I could order ThermoChill radiator

Where are you? In the US, the best place to get them is from Danger Den. Beyond that you can go to the Thermochill website and try to order from them - here is a link to the PA160 for sale on their site. They are based in the UK, so if you are not there, you may be looking at some not-so-nice shipping charges.

Before w go any further you need to list your PC components and tell us the reason that you are water cooling. Are you looking for high-end OCs or do you want to quiet, high-end performance? Will you run a constant, extreme OC on the CPU/GPU?

 

[neurobashing]

I live in Canada and most computer store don't have them in stock I could order them but none of those know when they will be available and since I know the thermaltake dual radiator will fit on that case I am not sure if the Thermochill will fit there since I haven't found good information on the size.

Reguarding OC I will for sure try to get as high OC possible with good temp and will use a fan controler on all the fan that are connected on the radiator so when I don't need to push the system i can lower the fan speed (7v) and when load is needed switch them to (12v) I still haven't found the fans I will use since the default thermaltake are noisy but will see how it perform and reguarding mix of metal in a loop like Alu rad and copper cpu/gpu block since I will use MCT-5 I should not have to worry about corrosion from mix copper/alu.

Thermochill Pa 120.2
http://www.thermochill.com/guides/PA120-2.pdf
Dimensions : 304(L) x 128(W) x 61(H)

http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/product/Liquid/Upgrade/cl-w0098/cl-w0098.asp
Dimensions : 273(L) x 120(W) x 28(H) mm

This is the problem I realy don't know if there is space in that Mozart TX case to handle 2 PA120 where there is the 4 exaust fan location on top..
http://techgage.com/viewimg/?img=/reviews/thermaltake/mozart_tx/mozart_tx_04.jpg
2 thermaltake radiator fitting they seem pretty fit so using longer radiator I am not too sure if they will fit but for sure i would prefer thermochill over the thermaltake but will they fit?
http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/produ...Mozarttx/+_image/02_liquidcoolingsystem_2.gif
since the Thermochill is longer then the W0098.. that's my main issue and this is why I was going to go complete Thermaltake with a good pump still not sure witch one from the 2 in my previous post..

If someone can confirm that those Thermochill will fit in that location I would use 2 PA120 in a push/pull config to cool down the cpu/gpu and possibly will add a second GTX 8800.. just the wait time after ordering those Thermochill are nearly a complete month or possible more and waiting so long for parts....aint too happy with the computer store in Ottawa or even the online resellers to take months after you pay for a peace of equipement to get it.. this is why I changed my mind of selecting Thermochill order time more then a month.. when I could get all the Thermaltake stuff in less then 2 weeks.. or anyone know bether online resellers then ncix/bigfootcomputer..or even stores in Ottawa area.

 

[Rugger]

The Mozart is probably made to be able to neatly fit the TMG. The Thermochill rads are larger than most other rads on the market, but they perform so much better. I personally wouldn't put two 120.2 rads in a rig. I just wouldn't like the added setup complexity and a single 120.3 will perform about as well. With the case you are considering there is no good place to be able to mount a 120.3 rad. For the price you are paying for that Mozart, you could get a Stacker 830 or a Thermaltake Armor. They take up more room, but can handle a 120.3 rad.

I like quiet more than I like extreme OCs. So if the Mozart was the case that I had to deal with, then I would go with a PA160 and mount it in the area that is available for the two 120.2 rads. Put a good Yate Loon D12SL-12 fan on it with a fan controller. Crank up the speed to OC and if you can't OC quite as high as a 120.3 , then so be it. You can easily slow her down for quiet and quiet won't be easy for two 120.2 rads with four fans.

For the pump, you can go with either of those pumps, but make sure that you get some Petra's Gel Stuff or similar type of product for vibration absorbtion from the pump. Given, the choice between those two pumps I would get the MCP 350 (it is a Laing DDC-1) and put a Petras Top on it. Or simply get the pre-modded top/pump together. It's actually cheaper to get them together/installed.