OCZ has today released a special model of it's Titanium series specifically for AM2 and up CPUs. It is said to accomodate the wider address range of the K8/K10 IMC.
It is also said to not support any Intel chips because Intel doesn't have 11 column bit with 16K pages but only 10 column bit with 8K pages.
The Inq seem sto think that others will follow suit soon. This new RAM shol dgive a boost to 3Dapps and PhotoShop.
Form OCZ site:
Quote :
The new PC2-5400 Titanium modules were designed exclusively for the AMD AM2 platform and are custom-tailored to the extended column address range of the AM2 memory controller. With a doubled page size, access penalties are reduced to ultimately improve system performance. Used on the AM2 platform, the architecture of these modules is particularly beneficial for large CAD model processing and memory intense graphics applications such as filters in Adobe Photoshop or video processing.
With 11 column address bit support by the AM2 memory controller, the number of addresses in each row or page can be as high as 2048 individual entries for a page size of 16kbit. Unlike modules based on standard 10-bit column address chips with an “8k” page size, the new Titanium AM2 Special modules take advantage of the AM2 controller’s feature set and provide a single rank solution with 2GB density using “16k” pages. This allows the controller to stay “in page” twice as long compared to standard memory architectures, thereby achieving unparalleled performance.
hmmm....i'm reall torn on my next memory upgrade...i either want corsair 675 ram (100 bucks 2 gigs!!!) or some really nice 1066 ram for when i buy a bearlake mobo.
now of course i have to reconsider everything...but this makes me want the cheapo 675 ram that will be plenty for my e4400...
OCZ has today released a special model of it's Titanium series specifically for AM2 and up CPUs. It is said to accomodate the wider address range of the K8/K10 IMC.
It is also said to not support any Intel chips because Intel doesn't have 11 column bit with 16K pages but only 10 column bit with 8K pages.
The Inq seem sto think that others will follow suit soon. This new RAM shol dgive a boost to 3Dapps and PhotoShop.
Form OCZ site:
The new PC2-5400 Titanium modules were designed exclusively for the AMD AM2 platform and are custom-tailored to the extended column address range of the AM2 memory controller. With a doubled page size, access penalties are reduced to ultimately improve system performance. Used on the AM2 platform, the architecture of these modules is particularly beneficial for large CAD model processing and memory intense graphics applications such as filters in Adobe Photoshop or video processing.
With 11 column address bit support by the AM2 memory controller, the number of addresses in each row or page can be as high as 2048 individual entries for a page size of 16kbit. Unlike modules based on standard 10-bit column address chips with an “8k” page size, the new Titanium AM2 Special modules take advantage of the AM2 controller’s feature set and provide a single rank solution with 2GB density using “16k” pages. This allows the controller to stay “in page” twice as long compared to standard memory architectures, thereby achieving unparalleled performance.
Am I the only one who sees this as a *bad* thing? Limiting compatibility in general is a bad thing since this would prevent you from migrating between platforms with your RAM and also limits the potential market. Smaller market = less volume = higher prices. Still... innovation is a GOOD thing for those willing to pay for it.
Its been the typical consensus for AM2 platforms that DDR2-800 is required for performance not DDR2-667. What would be ironic is that i'm sure DDR2-800, regular versions, would run faster than these "specifically tuned am2" ddr2-667 ones.
Am I the only one who sees this as a *bad* thing? Limiting compatibility in general is a bad thing since this would prevent you from migrating between platforms with your RAM and also limits the potential market. Smaller market = less volume = higher prices. Still... innovation is a GOOD thing for those willing to pay for it.
-mcg
How's this any different than RDRAM and FB-DIMMS. Albeit we know what happened to RDRAM and only time will tell how long FB-DIMMs will last.
Tailoring RAM to a specific platform, chipset, or cpu isn't really anything new. Seems like a "smart" move on AMD's part to ensure enthusiasts and users in general realize the full potential of their products. Besides, if Joe Average buys an AM2 system from Dell with this specfic memory, who would know the difference?
Am I the only one who sees this as a *bad* thing? Limiting compatibility in general is a bad thing since this would prevent you from migrating between platforms with your RAM and also limits the potential market. Smaller market = less volume = higher prices. Still... innovation is a GOOD thing for those willing to pay for it.
-mcg
It would be a limitation if you were switching platforms but possibly not if you are upgrading equipment from the same platform. K8 to K10. Pure speculation on my part.
Seems only fitting anyway. The PIII and P4 had RDRam. And of course the current Xeon platform has FBDimms.
Makes sense really. If they have the availability of getting you additional bandwidth why wouldnt some memory company try to take advantage of that and release a specialized product to make a little more money on.
Big words, no gains. DDR2 @667MHz CL5 5-5-15, really, rally unimpressive. :?
Why not DDR2-1067MHz CL3 3-3-9?
Baron, imagine 2xAgenaFX 2.9GHz OC-ed to 4GHz in QuadFX+ with 8GB(4x2GB) of this RAM. 8O
hmmm....i'm reall torn on my next memory upgrade...i either want corsair 675 ram (100 bucks 2 gigs!!!) or some really nice 1066 ram for when i buy a bearlake mobo.
now of course i have to reconsider everything...but this makes me want the cheapo 675 ram that will be plenty for my e4400...
It looks like it'll be a nice boost. I wonder if they'll do it for the new 1066 modules. That would be smoking.
OCZ has today released a special model of it's Titanium series specifically for AM2 and up CPUs. It is said to accomodate the wider address range of the K8/K10 IMC.
It is also said to not support any Intel chips because Intel doesn't have 11 column bit with 16K pages but only 10 column bit with 8K pages.
The Inq seem sto think that others will follow suit soon. This new RAM shol dgive a boost to 3Dapps and PhotoShop.
Form OCZ site:
The new PC2-5400 Titanium modules were designed exclusively for the AMD AM2 platform and are custom-tailored to the extended column address range of the AM2 memory controller. With a doubled page size, access penalties are reduced to ultimately improve system performance. Used on the AM2 platform, the architecture of these modules is particularly beneficial for large CAD model processing and memory intense graphics applications such as filters in Adobe Photoshop or video processing.
With 11 column address bit support by the AM2 memory controller, the number of addresses in each row or page can be as high as 2048 individual entries for a page size of 16kbit. Unlike modules based on standard 10-bit column address chips with an “8k” page size, the new Titanium AM2 Special modules take advantage of the AM2 controller’s feature set and provide a single rank solution with 2GB density using “16k” pages. This allows the controller to stay “in page” twice as long compared to standard memory architectures, thereby achieving unparalleled performance.
Am I the only one who sees this as a *bad* thing? Limiting compatibility in general is a bad thing since this would prevent you from migrating between platforms with your RAM and also limits the potential market. Smaller market = less volume = higher prices. Still... innovation is a GOOD thing for those willing to pay for it.
-mcg
I think it's a testament to the fact that AMD is getting partners like crazy. I wouldn't say it was bad though I cold see how you might say that. It would lock you in to AMD sockets and chips but how many people have had to sell their RAM anyway?
I just hope the tech makes it to higher speed grades. Hopefully AMD will have some to demo with on the 10th. OCZ has also released 1066 RAM for AMD.
Big words, no gains. DDR2 @667MHz CL5 5-5-15, really, rally unimpressive. :?
Why not DDR2-1067MHz CL3 3-3-9?
Baron, imagine 2xAgenaFX 2.9GHz OC-ed to 4GHz in QuadFX+ with 8GB(4x2GB) of this RAM. 8O
If the RAM company is saying it, I would tend to believe it. I guess they had to test the things. Maybe Tom's or Anand will get some and bench it.
From how they describe it I would guess maybe 10-20% improvement, maybe more. It should definitely help AMD use more bandwidth.
or maybe less. From the looks of it, I wouldn't say its a big achievement, but its just my speculation. Maybe 5% in normal applications, and 10% in media encoding applications?
From how they describe it I would guess maybe 10-20% improvement, maybe more. It should definitely help AMD use more bandwidth.
or maybe less. From the looks of it, I wouldn't say its a big achievement, but its just my speculation. Maybe 5% in normal applications, and 10% in media encoding applications?
The way they describe it implies a "noticeable" improvement. I guess we'll see.
From how they describe it I would guess maybe 10-20% improvement, maybe more. It should definitely help AMD use more bandwidth.
or maybe less. From the looks of it, I wouldn't say its a big achievement, but its just my speculation. Maybe 5% in normal applications, and 10% in media encoding applications?
The way they describe it implies a "noticeable" improvement. I guess we'll see.
humm not to be an a$$, but I would say its a marketing strategy.
I'm wondering if they're selling the prototypes? Because the RAM is Limited Edition. I suppose if people buy it, and see major improvement, OCZ might release more of them at higher clock.
