To upgrade or not?

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I have twin 7900GTX's in SLI on an Asus A8N-32 SLI Deluxe with an FX-60. How much of a performance gain would I see by going up to a single 8800GTX?
 

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It will be a good upgrade, but stick to what you got.

Two 7900GTXs are still a great setup. Try looking for an upgrade to X2900s, or maybe 8900s.

I wouldn't upgrade now.
 

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I agree with Zac.
With SLI'ed 7900GTX you should be able to play any games at high resolution(12x10 and above)with high FPS.
So wait a little more (maybe less than a week!)and see how ATI's next generation DX10 support HD X2K blah blah blah...series graphics cards :tongue: perform.
 

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Anyone willing to drop that kind of money on a video card setup shouldn't still be running an FX-60. While you're waiting for the 8900 GTX or the ATI card, why not upgrade your processor?
 

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Anyone willing to drop that kind of money on a video card setup shouldn't still be running an FX-60. While you're waiting for the 8900 GTX or the ATI card, why not upgrade your processor?
Good point! :trophy:
a Core 2 Duo E6420/E6600+2GB PC6400+Gigabyte P965 DS3 will prepare your system for some serious VGA upgrade! :D
 

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the FX-60 is still a 2.6ghz dual core processor, according to the interactive CPU charts there's very little in it between a E6400 and that (about 10% on synthetic benchmarks, and in gaming as little as 2%)

for gaming, it's an absolutely fine processor and not at all a bottleneck for quite some time to come, spending $300 on a core2 setup over what he has now makes no sense

I kinda have to agree on the other point though, what you have now kicks arse for DX9 games, wait till DX10 games actually start coming out and then see what cards are available and what they benchmark at / check prices etc.

The only reason I went 8800 so early was because I only had a single 7800GT which wasn't giving me the performance I wanted
 

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According to the VGA charts on Tom's, at 1600x1200, you would gain almost nothing from going from 2x7900GTX to a single 8800GTX. In a couple of games, the 8800 is faster by 5 or so frames. In others, the 7900s are equal. Yet in others, the 7900s are faster.

The exception is Oblivion, where the 8800 gets approx. 10 fps more at 16x12.


Don't know what res you're at, but unless you can cover the cost of the 8800 by selling your SLI setup, it seems like a waste of money and effort.
 

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the FX-60 is still a 2.6ghz dual core processor, according to the interactive CPU charts there's very little in it between a E6400 and that (about 10% on synthetic benchmarks, and in gaming as little as 2%)
Too funny... the guy has a 7900GTX SLI setup and is pondering an 8800GTX and you think he'd be looking at a $200 CPU?!? If he's dying to buy something now, I still say it makes sense to get a high-end CPU. His 7900GTX SLI rig can play every game out there now.
 

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the FX-60 is still a 2.6ghz dual core processor, according to the interactive CPU charts there's very little in it between a E6400 and that (about 10% on synthetic benchmarks, and in gaming as little as 2%)
Too funny... the guy has a 7900GTX SLI setup and is pondering an 8800GTX and you think he'd be looking at a $200 CPU?!? If he's dying to buy something now, I still say it makes sense to get a high-end CPU. His 7900GTX SLI rig can play every game out there now.

Too funny, for gaming there's really no point in upgrading his processor is my point, twat. Even if he went quadcore now, it would still make no perceivable difference.

At least the 8800 give him DX10 support, a CPU upgrade right now would give him nothing.
 

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I agree. Only Oblivion benefits going to the 8800GTX from 7900GTX SLI. And I agree about the CPU comment from rodney_ws.

To the OP, take a look at this article.

Going to an 8800GTX is a complete waste. You will better benefit from spending less money on a C2D, good motherboard and DDR2 memory which costs less than an 8800GTX at the moment.
 
I have twin 7900GTX's in SLI on an Asus A8N-32 SLI Deluxe with an FX-60. How much of a performance gain would I see by going up to a single 8800GTX?
I would wait as the 7900GTX's are enough for any game. Currently no game needs or can use DX10 so save your money. August is set for the release of crysis so plan upgrading both your graphics and CPU. The 8800 should have a revision and you may see a PCI-X 2.0 mobo.

Save your money and plan for a big upgrade because youll be needing it for crysis.

To answer your question you want see any performance gain as your eyes cant tell if your running at 60 or 100fps. Please dont upgrade your CPU chart points out you loss FPS when switching to Intel at 2048X1536.
http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/11/29/geforce_8800_needs_the_fastest_cpu/page7.html
Even on Fear with max settings The AMD system get near 9FPS higher. The second benchmark at 2048X1536.
http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/11/29/geforce_8800_needs_the_fastest_cpu/page5.html
Point is if you pay a lot for your GPU your not going to play at the low resolutions and most any dual core CPU will fine at 1600X1200 and above.
 

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Well, you'd get my attention more if you called me a "twat" like the other guy did. But yes, I think MOST of us are in agreement that anything less than the best in terms of CPU performance will hold back an ultra-high-end GPU like the 8800GTX.
 

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If it were my money, I agree... the FX60 is still a decent gaming CPU (technically I have one since my X2-4400 is OC'd to 2.6), but the OP seemed to have a bit more money to throw into his rig. It's pretty clear the OP likes the latest and greatest hardware and that FX60 is NOT... and if he opted to buy the 8800GTX (or even a pair), his CPU would be holding him back... Tom's did a write-up on this very topic detailing the performance of the 8800 GTX when matched with various CPUs. For 99.9% of the planet, the FX60 is not worth upgrading (yet), but for this guy... well, I think it is.
 

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Anyone willing to drop that kind of money on a video card setup shouldn't still be running an FX-60. While you're waiting for the 8900 GTX or the ATI card, why not upgrade your processor?
What? Why the hell?

FX60 is still a great CPU.

I would upgrade that CPU when time for quad cores really came.
 
My own opinion not based on any fact....

Your's setup is currently really good. Save your money and move to a quad core system when the prices comedown in the near future. Then skip a generation of cards because your current 7900GTX's in SLI are going to run almost everything out there at high res. If you upgrade your GPU your CPU might hold you back a little so I'd replace that first. And then move to the upcomming generations of cards and get a BIG bang for your buck. Not saying a gtx wouldnt be an increase I just don't think it will be astronomical.
 

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Then skip a generation of cards because your current 7900GTX's in SLI are going to run almost everything out there at high res.

but not at DX10

his current CPU is way good enough for DX10 gaming, his graphics card setup won't run DX10 at all

the most recent games on this test showed only a 2% difference in framerate between what he has now and an X6800, company of heroes shows a 16% FPS increase... which would be imperceptible in actual game play and doesn't justify spending $970 on a CPU
http://livedeviant.com/graphic-cards/review-8800gtx-vs.-8800gts-on-both-intel-and-amd.html
 

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but not at DX10

his current CPU is way good enough for DX10 gaming, his graphics card setup won't run DX10 at all
Yea, but by the time DX10 games come out, he'll have to upgrade anyway. And early DX10 games will run on his setup, but he won't enjoy the "better" graphics.