hi,

First of all I would like to say that this is my 1st post and I am so glad to have found this forum. Keep up the good work!

Okay....I've recently built my pc and I'm having some problems. The system seems to be pausing for like a split second, each time i do anything. So after leaving the PC off overnight, I got up and 1st thing in the morning switched on and accessed the BIOS.

The hardware monitor is showing the temperature at 65C and its still rising at 0.5C every five-ten seconds.

Since I've not built an Intel system in years, I don't know what is an average temperature for an E6300 core 2 duo (without overclocking). I'm worried as this seems too hot for a pc which has just been switched on!

One thing I must point out, is that when I was building the PC, the fan wouldn't clip onto the motherboard properly and although I have managed to sort this out, it seems a bit lose. If you think this might be the reason for the heat issue, can you please recommend me a cheap but good fan...i plan to overclock in the near future.

Last of all, since typing this msg, I ran the Asus Probe software and i am totally baffled with the CPU as it drops to a low of 47C and below I've taken a screenshot of it @ 57C:-



But the BIOS is always starting off at 65C+ and reached upto 71C within 2mins before I decided to switch off pc. The fan runs between 1500rpm to 1700rpm.

Do you still think its the fan or shall i assume a bug or software issue?

Are there any settings I need to change in the bios as I thought that the bios automatically sets everything?

PC SPEC:-

Intel E6300 Core 2 duo (not overclocked)
Standard CPU Fan
ASUS P5B motherboard
1GB Corair RAM
320mb point of view 8800GTS graphics card
2 x 250GB Hitachi HDD


Many thanks for helping

Try to reseat the heatsink. The stock Intel socket 775 fan is notorious for causing the problem you are having. The snap on HSF's like you are using are the easiest and probably the cheapest to replace. Large copper HSF's like the Zalman 9500 will improve your temps a lot. Unfortunately, the Zalman line is not cheap. Link:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] %2f+LGA775

thanks badge for a fast reply...unfortunately I live in UK and was wondering if you can recommend a fan part in the UK...to make life easier, here is website you can help me choose from:-

www.cclonline.com


these guys are reasonably local. Just to give you an idea mate...I need a fan that will keep my pc cool even when I plan to OVERCLOCK. If you can spot a fan which clips on with a different method than the Intel one, then I'd rather have than as the intel one is a pain in the backside, lol....oh and my max spending mate is £25.

Thank You again for helping me.

Actually your stock cooler will work well if you reseat the four pins in the MB and bring the HS down flush on the CPU. Be sure to reapply thermal grease. I use the Hyper 3 Coolermaster on a socket 775 board I have been running for a year. The Hyper 3 isinstalls the same way the stock 775 cooler installs, but it has a 92mm fan at 2700 rpm and copperheatpipes. The Zalman's are better, but more difficult to install generally. The Hyper 3 will do the job.

http://www.cclonline.com/product-i [...] gory_id=99

Hi there,

First off; your temperatures are definately too high even for the stock HS and fan. As posted above try reseating the HS (you may want to re apply some thermal grease - make sure you clean off the old stuff first though), it really pays to take your time doing this and get it right before you switch on, its way easier if you remove the mobo from the case. Also make sure that you do up the clips in a diagonal sequence to get an even load over the cpu. The heatsink should not be at all loose if fitted correctly - if you cant get the stock one to fit right then look into buying another, you may have a problem finding one at that price range that doesn't use the standard intel fitting in which case you could end up with the same problem.

Once you've reseated the HS check all your temps again (try using intel's TAT as opposed to the asus monitor programme). Then you should be good for a reasonable overclock just using the stock HS & fan, if you want a more agressive OC then deffo get a better HS. Also check out overclockers and overclock (google) - both good UK resellers.

thank you so much guys for that advice.

First of all what is the average range temperature a CPU should be when not overclocked? what about the overclock temperature?

Secondly, I would rather prefer if the HSF I choose is not the standard intel fitting, because I know how hard that was and would rather not have to go through that headache again, so i am sorry, but i would be most grateful if we could choose another one, even if price is a little higher.

Thanks

I just went through the exact same thing as you, and I was running a Zalman 7700 for the CPU cooling. The person who built this for me, did a piss poor thermal paste job. It had a big spot where it got pushed away on the CPU. I would idle around 43C and run up to 81C when 3d mark was running (yikes)

Re-seated the Heatsink, added a good job of Arctic Silver, and now I idle at 28C and full load under 3d mark is 58C. Sounds like a bad paste job, or the heatsink is not making good contact.

Hey Ripper,

You can look at the temps in my sig for a guide as what to aim for with your temps, bear in mind that I have OC and have a Vcore overvault, but anywhere close to those give or take a few degrees and you are good to go.

As for coolers, if you are willing to up your price range you could do worse than get a Zalman 9500, a little pricey, but It's very quite on the lowest (which I run it on 24/7) and it uses its own mounting system (a bit tricky but fine if you don't rush.

A lot of people seem to swear by sythe ninja? so they must be the muts nuts n'all.

Also spend a fiver on some decent thermal paste - AS5 or shin etsu should be good enough - and apply it properly.

If you do all that you should be good for a nice juicy overclock

hi benzene m8,

thanks for that advice...i might read reviews for all the coolers and decide then. Just to clarify, roughly what kind of o/c can i achieve if i bought a good HSF? I only want a rough idea and nothing accurate. My PC Spec is:-

Intel E6300 Core 2 duo (not overclocked)
Standard CPU Fan
ASUS P5B motherboard
1GB Corair RAM
320mb point of view 8800GTS graphics card
2 x 250GB Hitachi HDD

Also I got the Intel Thermal Analysis Tool you recommended and this is the output:-



What do you think of it? I was doing nothing and thats the result.

Way to hot for idle temps TBH.

I'd start by reseating what you've got, you should see a massive decrease just doing that. Good idea to read the reviews as well.

With that cpu you should be able to get at least a 30% overclock on air from what I've seen on the forums, and maybe even on the stock cooler. Bear in mind that overclock headroom differs even between CPU's of the same model and stepping, but by all accounts the E6300 can go like the clappers if well cooled, over 3Ghz on air is not unheard of ...just take it carefully, start with the guide in the OC forum.

By the way, is your mobo P5B deluxe or vanilla? not sure about overclocking on the vanilla version, check the Asus mobo thread for more info on that.

I'm just gonna replace the HSF as i'd rather have a good cooler in order to o/c.

My mobo is P5B standard, i.e NOT DELUXE...whats a vanilla?

I hope I can still o/c..or can i not? :?

Vanilla = standard, no bells or whistles.

Found this http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=120993 article which suggests that you'll have no probs though.

thanks for this mate. I know we've been over the issue of HSF mate but I've just noticed something that is really bugging me and thought u might be able to help.

Everytime my pc is rebooted, the bios displays an error similar to this:-

"overclocking failed" and gives me an option to boot into setup or load defaults.

I of course load the defaults. Could this explain why i'm getting a heat issue or is this totally unrelated? FYI I just have tried upgrading to the latest BIOS, but this hasn't fixed it.

By the way when I installed the mobo, i never went into setup to alter anything as the setting were all set to "AUTOMATIC".

regards

ripper

The Intel HSF is actually not a bad one. It's just difficult to install properly. Once you get it installed it performs well.