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Romstar   05-10-2007 at 05:02:12 AM

My 4000 dollar rig isnt going to assrape it as bad as i thought.....

Xbox 360 specs:

Custom IBM Power-PC Based CPU


Three symmetrical cores running at 3.2 GHz each
Two hardware threads per core; six hardware threads total
VMX-128 vector unit per core; three total
128 VMX-128 registers per hardware thread
1 MB L2 cache

CPU Game Math Performance


9 billion dot product operations per second

Custom ATI Graphics Processor


500MHz processor
10 MB of embedded DRAM
48-way parallel floating-point dynamically scheduled shader pipelines
Unified shader architecture

Pixel Fill Rate


16 gigasamples per second fill rate using 4x MSAA

Memory


512 MB of GDDR3 RAM
700 MHz of DDR
Unified memory architecture

So the 360 has a 1950gt, 3 cores at 3.1 ghz each?!?! and a 20 gig hard drive for 400 bucks

my new system:

Power Supply: SILVERSTONE OP1000 ATX12V $340 / EPS12V 1000W

Processor: Intel core 2 q6600 - Retail $550

VIdeo card: 2(Ati 2900 HD xt $500)

Sound Card:Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Elite 7.1 Channels 24-bit 192KHz PCI Interface Sound Card - Retail $260

Hard Drive:Western Digital Raptor WD1500ADFD 150GB 10,000 RPM 16MB Cache Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM $210(180 -30 dollar MIR)

Memory/ram:.SKILL 2GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Desktop Memory - Retail $175

DvD drive/burner:PLEXTOR Black 16X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 6X DVD+R DL 16X DVD-R 4X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 24X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 8M Cache IDE Slot Load DVD Burner - Retail $147

Keyboard: Razer Tarantula Gaming Keyboard $88

Speakers: Creative inspire p7800 90 watts 7.1 speaker -retail $87.00

cpu cooler: VIGOR GAMING CLT-M2I 92mm Thermal Electric CPU Cooler - Retail $150


MotherBoard: Intel BOXD975XBX2KR LGA 775 Intel 975X ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail $250

Mousepad:Razer Mantis Control Mouse Pad - Full Retail Multi Language - Retail $35

Case: Thermaltake Armor / Full Tower Case / 250mm Side Panel Fan / Silver / VA8003SWA $200

OS: Windows Vista Ultimate Retail: $380

this system will be around like 3800ish. T_T

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jaysins   05-10-2007 at 05:43:00 AM
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Well the 360's gpu is more advanced than the x1900 series and is able to do many things that it cannot. That said, your gaming rig will outperform the 360 easily when the DX10 games come out for it and should still look better on many of todays games. If it doesn't it's the game not your hardware. Crysis is the obvious example of what your machine will be able to do. The one thing I think the 360 can outperform a PC in is procedurally generated textures. That's it to my knowledge and such textures aren't that popular yet, though they are a staple of oblivion.

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sirheck   05-10-2007 at 06:06:16 AM
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My amd x24400 and nv 8800 will smoke the 360 in gaming.
so will the computer you listed.

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MattC   05-10-2007 at 06:47:40 AM
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I don't think you can compare specs in the manner you are trying, across such different platforms. And you definitely cannot compare price - the xbox is designed to be cheap and to be mass produced, but the components in your pc are not. In fact, regarding price, what I just said is a gross understatement - you are paying almost 4x what you would need to beat out the xbox360 in performance.

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Silver Graphics badge TheGreatGrapeApe   05-10-2007 at 06:53:09 AM
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DIE CONSOLE THREAD DIE !!! :roll:

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306maxi   05-10-2007 at 08:24:52 AM
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Quote :

DIE CONSOLE THREAD DIE !!! :roll:



I concur

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tool_462   05-10-2007 at 08:39:57 AM
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:twisted: Let those who do not understand, continue not understanding...

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r0x0r   05-10-2007 at 09:35:19 AM
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Quote :

DIE CONSOLE THREAD DIE !!! :roll:



I concur

Concur +1 :wink:

Seriously though...

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iroc   05-10-2007 at 10:19:11 AM
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360 games cost more than double wat PC games cost (long term?!!!)

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prozac26   05-10-2007 at 01:05:18 PM
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Quote :

DIE CONSOLE THREAD DIE !!! :roll:


I concur as well.

@ OP

Can't just look at the specs, and come to your conclusion.

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honza   05-10-2007 at 02:13:24 PM
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Quote :

DIE CONSOLE THREAD DIE !!! :roll:



I concur

WORD!

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aziraphale   05-10-2007 at 02:16:57 PM
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Quote :

DIE CONSOLE THREAD DIE !!! :roll:



I concur

WORD!

WORD X2

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Miribus   05-10-2007 at 03:24:07 PM
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To the OP.
The answer is simple, which platform has the games you want to play?
Get that one.
The prettier games will be on the PC, the PC, if enough is invested, can actually do the things (such as 1080p gaming) that the consoles claim to do.

Either way, don't go by performance. If we only went by performance the PS2 wouldn't still be selling. Hardware-wise the thing is a$$ but the solid titles produced are all that matters.

If you're only going to game.. get a console and save some cash, and keep the computer you already have for whatever else you might need.

I primarily PC game because the type of games I like to play are for one, generally only available on the PC, and two, I find the ones that are multiplatform play as well or better.

Again, it's all relative.

Arguments can be made for either console or pc, neither is going to "win." Ever. Besides the line is being blurred as "consoles" are essentially becoming more and more like pc's anyway. Only with the inconvenience of more proprietary software. Once you can fully web-surf, chat and email from a console, with a keyboard... is it really a console?

Companies and developers love consoles because they are harder to pirate and guarantee that when money is being spent, it's being spent on THEM. Like with licensing fees, for example.

Developers love PCs because although they are prone to piracy, there are no such fees, and a lot less design overhead (no dev kits, essentially). Try "indie" brewing a console game and publishing it to make actual money.

I, for one, prefer pc games still because I find more in the PC titles that I like than in the consoles. It's that simple. Not because I have an adverse hatred for consoles, but because the 10%, if that, of titles I find interesting are just not enough justification for my money imo.

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Vash-HT   05-10-2007 at 03:56:05 PM
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Quote :

DIE CONSOLE THREAD DIE !!! :roll:



I don't understand wtf your problem is, but consoles aren't bad at all. Anyway to the OP, your logic is way off. The gpu in the 360 is custom as you posted, not a X19XX core like a lot of people claim. It's not even similar, considering it has unified shaders and the X19XX series doesn't. People just assume they're similar because they see 48 and shaders and think its a X1900.

Also, you can't compare clock speed of processors of different architectures, it really doesn't match up. The system you built is a lot better than a 360 for sure, and does a lot more than the 360 does so the extra cost is expected. Allt he numbers they spit out about the consoles performance are pretty much marketing BS, I wouldn't listen to any of it.

Anyway I wouldn't worry about it, My PC sees far more use than my 360 for gaming, hell even my DS and ps2 do.

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glupee   05-10-2007 at 03:59:29 PM
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Quote :

DIE CONSOLE THREAD DIE !!! :roll:



I concur

WORD!

WORD X2
Word X3
and one of these nifty thingies --> :trophy:

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CompTIA_Rep   05-10-2007 at 04:12:25 PM
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Quote :

DIE CONSOLE THREAD DIE !!! :roll:



I concur

WORD!

WORD X2
Word X3
and one of these nifty thingies --> :trophy:

+1


NOTE: I'm gonna say this only once, to all the confused PC/Console Spec people:

A computer game is designed to be most compatible with 100 different hardware, and thus, there is alot of overhead.

On a console, you have one set of hardware and game programmers can utilize it to the fullest, taking something like a Geforce 3, and running Doom 3 on it (where it took a 9800 or better to run on a PC).

The Xbox360 may not have the fastest anything, or DX10, but game code can be created much more efficiently, which leads to better looking, faster games, then the equiv for a PC.

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turboflame   05-10-2007 at 04:15:54 PM
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Quote :

My 4000 dollar rig isnt going to assrape it as bad as i thought.....



yes it will

Oh and Die console thread!

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aziraphale   05-10-2007 at 04:34:35 PM
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Quote :

My 4000 dollar rig isnt going to assrape it as bad as i thought.....



Sure it will...

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kaotao   05-10-2007 at 05:49:52 PM
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Quote :

DIE CONSOLE THREAD DIE !!! :roll:



Yeah, seriously.

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Chil   05-10-2007 at 05:54:26 PM
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Quote :

DIE CONSOLE THREAD DIE !!! :roll:



Yeah, seriously.

Obviously this thread won't die if you keep bumping it to the top while yelling at it to go away.

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CompTIA_Rep   05-10-2007 at 07:52:05 PM
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Quote :

DIE CONSOLE THREAD DIE !!! :roll:



Yeah, seriously.

Obviously this thread won't die if you keep bumping it to the top while yelling at it to go away.

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kaotao   05-10-2007 at 07:59:06 PM
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Quote :

DIE CONSOLE THREAD DIE !!! :roll:



Yeah, seriously.

Obviously this thread won't die if you keep bumping it to the top while yelling at it to go away.

Thanks oh so much for pointing that out... :roll: Can't a man get his 2 cents in? Now why won't this thing just die already? Oh yeah... :oops: :twisted:

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