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August 3, 2011 6:32:39 PM

i built a compaq laptop board by board a few years ago.
the laptop came with a windows xp professional sticker, but no install disc or hard drive.

i want to know if i can upgrade the license number without a previous installation of windows xp professional.
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a b $ Windows 7
August 3, 2011 6:51:39 PM

To do the upgrade, you'd need a legitimate "sticker" number / install CD for XP.

But Home Pre Upgrade is $120 .... Win 7 OEM is $95 .... why would you wanna go with the "upgrade" on a self built machine when the OEM version which you qualify for is $25 cheaper ?
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August 3, 2011 6:54:37 PM

Just so you know, you cant upgrade from XP to Windows 7 using the upgrade versions. You need a full copy like the Win 7 OEM Jack mentioned. Nobody really supports to give you the windows xp copy anymore. You can search around for a image .iso file online.
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August 3, 2011 7:09:24 PM

JackNaylorPE said:
To do the upgrade, you'd need a legitimate "sticker" number / install CD for XP.

But Home Pre Upgrade is $120 .... Win 7 OEM is $95 .... why would you wanna go with the "upgrade" on a self built machine when the OEM version which you qualify for is $25 cheaper ?


because i thought i would go with the full retail version instead of involving my whole life with refurbished or used products.

and
because the oem discs come with ONE version.. 32bit or 64bit only.
that means i lose the freedom to switch back and forth between the two.


finally..
the nearest place to grab one of those oem versions is like 30 miles away and i have no ride except train or taxi.


i mean DUH..
i have been reading the same thing for the last 20 months.
you need to have a legitimate sticker.
some people said you have to have the old operating system installed before windows 7 upgrade will work.
THEN
other people said the upgrade disc gives you the option to perform a 'clean/fresh install' of the operating system.
i havent heard much else about the 'clean/fresh' option.
that is why i am asking for people who have installed windows 7.
can you put the upgrade disc in without any operating system installed and simply type in the license key to have it check online for validity ... or does the upgrade disc force you to have the old operating system installed?
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August 3, 2011 7:11:53 PM

dadopro said:
Just so you know, you cant upgrade from XP to Windows 7 using the upgrade versions. You need a full copy like the Win 7 OEM Jack mentioned. Nobody really supports to give you the windows xp copy anymore. You can search around for a image .iso file online.


This is not correct.

From Microsoft: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/upgrading-t...

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I'm running Windows XP on my PC. Can I buy the upgrade version of Windows 7?

Yes, you can buy the upgrade version of Windows 7, but you'll need to perform a custom installation. This means that you should back up all of your files to an external location and gather the installation discs or setup files for programs that you want to use with Windows 7. For detailed instructions, see Upgrading from Windows XP to Windows 7.


Upgrading from Windows XP to Windows 7
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/help/upgrad...

As JackNaylorPE stated you can get the OEM version cheaper, however, you cannot move that to another computer later and Microsoft does not provide free support for it. You still gets updates and patches but technical support is supposed to be done by the OEM. For me the extra $25 is worth being able to move it to a new computer, but that isn't the case for everyone.
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a c 412 $ Windows 7
August 3, 2011 7:25:18 PM

Upgrade Versions Windows 7

Let’s assume you have a machine with Windows installed on it. Maybe you bought it preinstalled from a PC maker. Maybe you upgraded a previous version (like XP to Vista or Vista to Windows 7). Maybe you built it yourself with a full retail license. Whatever. Now you want to upgrade. You have two options.

Windows Anytime Upgrade This option is exclusively for people who already have Windows 7 Starter, Home Basic, Home Premium, or Professional installed. This might be the case if you get a great deal on a new PC with a specific edition of Windows 7, such as a netbook running Windows 7 Starter or a notebook running Windows 7 Home Premium. You now you actually want a more advanced version, but the PC is preconfigured and can’t be customized. That’s where Windows Anytime Upgrade comes in. You can use this option to replace your edition with the one you really want, with the features you need.

It is very quick (10 minutes or less, typically) and does not require any media. You kick off the process from the System dialog box in Control Panel and then enter a valid key for the edition you want to upgrade to. You can purchase a key online or use a key from any upgrade or full edition of Windows 7. The starting version must be activated before Windows Anytime Upgrade will begin.

When the upgrade completes, you are running the new, higher version.

Retail upgrade Here’s the one that has caused all the recent controversy. A retail upgrade package is sold at a steep discount to a fully licensed retail product. The idea is that you are a repeat customer, and you get a price break because you already paid for a full Windows license earlier. Retail upgrades qualify for free technical support from Microsoft, even if the copy you’re replacing was originally supplied by an OEM.

So who qualifies for a Windows 7 upgrade license? The Windows 7 retail upgrade package says “All editions of Windows XP and Windows Vista qualify you to upgrade.” The same language appears on the listings at the Microsoft Store. Specifically:

Any PC that was purchased with Windows XP or Vista preinstalled (look for the sticker on the side) is qualified. This is true whether the PC came from a large royalty OEM or a system builder. You can install a retail upgrade of Windows 7 on that PC. You cannot, however, use the OEM license from an old PC to upgrade a new PC without Windows installed.
Any retail full copy of Windows XP or Windows Vista can serve as the qualifying license as well. If you have a full retail copy (not an OEM edition) on an old PC, you can uninstall that copy from the old PC and use it as the baseline full license for the new PC.
Older copies of Windows, including Windows 95/98/Me or Windows 2000, do not qualify for upgrading. There was some confusion earlier this summer when a page at the Microsoft Store online briefly stated that Windows 2000 owners could qualify for an upgrade. This appears to have been a mistake.

So, who doesn’t qualify for an upgrade license?

If you want to install Windows 7 in a new virtual machine, you need a full license. A retail upgrade isn’t permitted because there’s no qualifying copy of Windows installed. (The exception is Windows XP Mode, which is included with Windows 7 Professional and higher.)
If you own a Mac and you want to install Windows on it, either in a virtual machine or using Boot Camp, you need a full license.
And if you want to set up a dual-boot system, keeping your current version alongside your new copy of Windows 7, you need a full license. You can evaluate the new OS for up to 30 days before activating it, but if you decide to activate and use the retail upgrade full-time, you have to stop using your old edition.

That last one always surprises people, but it’s right there in the upgrade license terms:

To use upgrade software, you must first be licensed for the software that is eligible for the upgrade. Upon upgrade, this agreement takes the place of the agreement for the software you upgraded from. After you upgrade, you may no longer use the software you upgraded from.

So, if you want to dual-boot on a system that is currently using a single Windows license, you need to have a full license for your new copy, not a retail upgrade.

As the table on the first page indicates, you can transfer a retail upgrade license to a new PC. This fact confuses some people. Remember that the PC on which you install the upgrade must have a qualifying license first. So if you buy a new PC with an OEM Windows license, you can remove your retail upgrade from the old PC (restoring its original, un-upgraded Windows edition) and install your retail upgrade on the new PC. This is covered in Section 17 of the Windows 7 license:

You may transfer the software and install it on another computer for your use. That computer becomes the licensed computer. You may not do so to share this license between computers.

According to wording on the retail upgrade media, “This [setup] program will search your system to confirm your eligibility for this upgrade.” It is, presumably, looking for evidence of a currently installed version of Windows XP or Vista.
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August 3, 2011 7:26:23 PM

i see i wasnt getting any useful information out of the forum-goers here.
so i went and hunted down some recent posts about the 'clean install' option of windows 7.

somebody confirmed..
if you format the hard drive, you can install the windows 7 from the upgrade cd.

from the post:
"Microsoft only made doing a clean install from a upgrade Windows 7 possible to make it more convenient so you do not have to reinstall both the old Windows version (ex: Vista) and upgrade to Windows 7 everytime you needed or wanted to reinstall."
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August 3, 2011 7:45:51 PM

Since you have/had a copy of xp you are entitled to an upgrade. You can do a clean install using an upgrade disk without a current OS installed. The double install method has always worked for me, method 3 in this link, but others have had success with method 1.

http://www.winsupersite.com/article/windows-7/clean-ins...
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August 3, 2011 7:51:17 PM

If you have a previous version of Windows (XP or Vista), try launching Windows 7 Setup from that OS first, even if you want to wipe out the previous Windows verison. If you run Windows 7 Setup from your previous OS, Windows 7 will always activate.
If you boot your PC with the Windows 7 Setup DVD, as described below, and there is an existing install of Windows on the first partition, Windows 7 will always activate. If the existing install of Windows is on some other partition, Windows 7 should still activate. There are instances in which this won't work--especially when people really muck around with directory structures and so on, but it should activate.
Windows 7 Setup does its compliance checking before the phase of Setup where you format the disc. (Unlike with Windows Vista.) This means that you can format your existing hard drive, and blow away a previous Windows version, and not worry about activation. If it was there, Windows 7 will still activate.
Recovery partitions don't count. While Windows 7 Setup will look for previous installations of Windows, it will not look for recovery partitions or use them for compliance checking.
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