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May 10, 2007 2:50:37 PM

Hello
Bellow is list of parts except for graphics card which i will decide next week 8) .
I am still not sure about some of the parts.
1)RAM this Kingston is cl 4 and cheaper than the DDR2 Corsair 2048MB Twinx XMS2-6400 800MHz cl5 which i was planing to get. What do you think?


2)These harddrives are enterprise version described as optimised for 24/7 server enviroment, RAID but mainly have 5 year waranty. I was planning to get Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 3.5" 320GB ST3320620AS but as they are the same price i am considering the enterprize version. I am not planing to run RAID and dont run the pc 24/7 so the only + for me is the extended waranty. Do you think this is a good choice? Why?

3)Does anyone have this burner (Pioneer DVR-212 , SATA )? Are you happy with it?
I was planing to get Sony-Nec AD-7170S but i would realy like either lighscribe or labelflash in my burner. The other burner i am considering is Sony-Nec AD-7173S which should be just 7170S with labelflash but i am not sure if it performs as well as the 7170.

Thermaltake VA8000BNS Armor
Zalman ZM600-HP 600W
Gigabyte 965P-DS3P revision 3.3
40x40 Scythe Minikaze SY124010L
Intel Core 2 Duo E6600, socket 775,
Arctic-Cooling Freezer 7 Pro
:?: DDR2 Kingston HyperX 2048MB (kit 2x1GB) 800MHz KHX6400D2LLK2/2G, CL 4 (4-4-4-12),
:?: 2xSeagate Barracuda ES 3.5" 320GB ST3320620NS 3.5", SATAII/300, 320GB, 7200ot./min., 16MB cache
:?: Pioneer DVR-212 , SATA
Flopy Nec 3,5"/1,44MB,
Samsung 22" SM 226BW, monitor LCD, 3000:1, 300cd, 2ms, 15pin D-Sub, DVI-D, 1680x1050
May 10, 2007 10:20:17 PM

1) depends. If you overclock, get micron d9 ram. Otherwise, any brand name value ram will do.

2) It's usually not a good idea to run non-RAID harddisks designed for RAID. In another thread, a poster pointed out that the error correction of such drives wouldn't kick in in a non-RAID setup. Get the desktop harddisks you plan to run them as standalones.

3) No. I'd get the Samsung SATA one.

The psu is excellent.

What are you going to do with the 40mm fan?
May 11, 2007 2:30:56 PM

Thanks for replying.

1) micron d9 ram . I figure these are the chips on the RAM sticks but i am not sure what it means. Can someone explain please.

2)Great thanks that is exactly what i was worried about. I will get the desktop drives. Still have to decide between seagate and western digital. Any preferences. I read that the seagates are slightly faster but noisier, can someone confirm or dispute this from personal eperience?


3)Misunderstanding i think
Iwas planing to get "Sony-Nec AD-7170S, SATA". But i would realy like the lightscribe or labelflash on my burner. So out of these what do you think is the best choice? They are relatively new in my part of the world so i cant find many reviews.
Pioneer DVR-212 SATA labelflash
Sony-Nec AD-7173S SATA labelflash
Asus DRW-1814BLT SATA lightscribe
Samsung SH-S183L SATA lightscribe

Edit: the 400mm fan is for the northbridge heatsink on the motherboard. I read that it gets quite hot

Just for info i live in Europe and this system is gonna cost me over $2000. Think i am gonna see the prices on newegg just to see how much better of the americans are.
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May 12, 2007 12:05:33 AM

Micron D9's are best for overclocking. If you don't o/c the ram, it doesn't matter what ram to get.

You're correct about the Seagate 7200.10 being noiser & faster, but you should know it runs hotter than 7200.9 by around 5'C. I have both of them in my & my family's pcs. They've been great.

No, I didn't misunderstand you, but I said no to your question about whether I've used the dvd drive. No, I haven't used it. Out of the dvd burners you listed, I'd get the Samsung.

No, there's no such things as 400mm fans for pcs. Only 40mm.

For chipset cooling, I got the best (see my sig). I can now o/c my 4300 to over 3.2ghz. One time I got the pc to boot at over 3.45ghz. I'm not doing it cuz it's getting warmer. I'll do it in winter if the 4300 is still with me.

Basically, get passive chipset cooling if the case provides sufficient air cooling. Otherwise, get active chipset cooling that still can't make up for lacking case cooling. i.e. 1 80mm intake & 1 80mm exhaust will always keep the pc at around the same temps whether you put 1 40mm over the chipset or not.

The better solution would be to get a case with at least 1 120mm intake & 1 120mm exhaust. The best air cooling solution would be a 250mm or 25cm side fan. With this kind of cooling, you wouldn't need to worry about chipset temps.
May 12, 2007 12:12:51 AM

Crucial Ballistix Tracer PC2-8000 cas 4 is an awesome overclocker right behind Corsair XMS2 PC2-8500. don't get the ballistix PC2-8500 version it has cas 5. The PC2-8000 can go up to 1087Mhz with cas 4.

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New Google Checkout users can save an extra $10 making it $110 (can not be combined with coupon).

Fillable rebate form. Thanks chaggio [discuss]

Fillable rebate forms for the Crucial Ballistix and Crucial Ballistix Tracer. Thanks nimaim.

Mwave has Crucial Ballistix 2GB (1GB x 2) Match Pair PC2 8000 1000MHZ Desktop Memory for $155 - $40 rebate (exp 5/10) = $115. Shipping begins around $7. Thanks Idiot_Hacker. [discuss]. Fillable rebate. Thanks nimaim.


you can get this for $110 compared to Corsair XMS2 PC2-8500 which is ~$300 on newegg

By the way, I don't know much about that mobo you selected, but check out Abit AB9-Pro for $140 and Asus P5W DH Deluxe, these two are top two overclocker mobo for 975X chipset mobos.

It overclocked a E6400 on air cooling up to 455x8 = 3.64Ghz
Read here http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/asus_p5wdh/13.html

If you like RAID 0, consider getting a bunch of 80GB sata3.0 hdd $42 each, you can get $128 triple RAID0 or more.
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