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will14   05-10-2007 at 05:36:48 PM

Now I was googling for benchmarks and came across this blog, which oh yeah it's heavy AMD perhaps to fanboy level of course. However I am wondering if there is any truth to NUMA being a differance between Intel and AMD chips.

http://badhardware.blogspot.com/

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That beside Microsoft, financially screwed AMD, a lot in Q1 and probably a bit in this quarter. NUMA architecture support, that AMD uses and Intel will not until 2009, is actually an essential part of Vista OS but not on 32bit XP. So AMD, essentially optimized for Vista OS support was actually performance handycaped after Vista delay, just in the most selling Christmas time.



I think this guy just likes to rave but if someone can shed light, I don't have time to read about NUMA architecture etc right now.

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1Tanker   05-10-2007 at 05:47:16 PM
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Now I was googling for benchmarks and came across this blog, which oh yeah it's heavy AMD perhaps to fanboy level of course. However I am wondering if there is any truth to NUMA being a differance between Intel and AMD chips.

http://badhardware.blogspot.com/

That beside Microsoft, financially screwed AMD, a lot in Q1 and probably a bit in this quarter. NUMA architecture support, that AMD uses and Intel will not until 2009, is actually an essential part of Vista OS but not on 32bit XP. So AMD, essentially optimized for Vista OS support was actually performance handycaped after Vista delay, just in the most selling Christmas time.



I think this guy just likes to rave but if someone can shed light, I don't have time to read about NUMA architecture etc right now.I didn't know Shariboo had a sister site. :roll:

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viperabyss   05-10-2007 at 05:51:03 PM
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Now I was googling for benchmarks and came across this blog, which oh yeah it's heavy AMD perhaps to fanboy level of course. However I am wondering if there is any truth to NUMA being a differance between Intel and AMD chips.

http://badhardware.blogspot.com/

That beside Microsoft, financially screwed AMD, a lot in Q1 and probably a bit in this quarter. NUMA architecture support, that AMD uses and Intel will not until 2009, is actually an essential part of Vista OS but not on 32bit XP. So AMD, essentially optimized for Vista OS support was actually performance handycaped after Vista delay, just in the most selling Christmas time.



I think this guy just likes to rave but if someone can shed light, I don't have time to read about NUMA architecture etc right now.
it has been reported (w/ benchmarks) that Vista only have improvements in taking the advantage of NUMA architecture. While in Vista, 4x4 can take the advantage of "improved" NUMA support, and showed some improvement in high bandwidth/ high threaded applications.

Vista RC2 Benchmarks

However, I wouldn't say 4x4 will perform much better in Vista, as the benchmarks showed that it still lags behind QX6700, and in some cases, QX6600.

Perhaps 4x4 will only be a platform for those who does "hyper-tasking" (which i doubt anyone on this forum do), with the debut of K10.

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will14   05-10-2007 at 05:58:39 PM
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So a minor impact at best most likely in server apps anyway in which you wouldn't be running Vista anyway? Figures.

*edit* Thanks for the reply/info, almost forgot to say that.

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djgandy   05-10-2007 at 09:16:24 PM
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Now I was googling for benchmarks and came across this blog, which oh yeah it's heavy AMD perhaps to fanboy level of course. However I am wondering if there is any truth to NUMA being a differance between Intel and AMD chips.

http://badhardware.blogspot.com/

That beside Microsoft, financially screwed AMD, a lot in Q1 and probably a bit in this quarter. NUMA architecture support, that AMD uses and Intel will not until 2009, is actually an essential part of Vista OS but not on 32bit XP. So AMD, essentially optimized for Vista OS support was actually performance handycaped after Vista delay, just in the most selling Christmas time.



I think this guy just likes to rave but if someone can shed light, I don't have time to read about NUMA architecture etc right now.I didn't know Shariboo had a sister site. :roll:

Indeed. Are their any mental Intel fanboi blogs anywhere? It's always some nutter with AMD.

Using NUMA as en excuse is weak. I thought only 4x4 had numa anyway?

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ajfink   05-10-2007 at 10:02:31 PM
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NUMA is also supported by XP64 and I believe Windows Server 2003, so those server apps would actually have relevant platforms to run on.

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RichPLS   05-11-2007 at 01:22:40 AM
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Intel's Penryn gives a hint on AMD Barcelona performance.
It has to run at 3.3 Ghz clock with help of 12MB of cache !
Dangerously close to ill fated high clocked Pentium.
However, high-K might help this time. Don't forget that Intel will
try to fool audience actually with D1D research fab Penryn samples on July 15th.



FLMFAO!!!

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goldragon_70   05-11-2007 at 01:55:10 AM
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Well Vista commercials push AMD at the end.

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