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October 19, 2008 5:35:39 PM

I am trying to run Ubuntu for the first time. I have had nothing but trouble. First I had to disable the floppy drive in the BIOS to get rid of an error message. Now when I try to run it from a CD, all I get is this

Initramfs -

Any advice would be appreciated.

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October 19, 2008 6:09:00 PM

Shoot over your full specs please so we can see what kind of hardware you have.

The more details you can give us the better.

Also what version of Ubuntu did you download?

:) 
October 19, 2008 8:27:51 PM

Homebuilt Desktop

Intel Dual Core
Asus MB
two HDs
Vista Home premium 64

Attempting to use Ubuntu 8.02 64 bit
October 19, 2008 9:57:04 PM

Did you mean 8.04 amd64?

October 19, 2008 10:11:18 PM

Intel and Vista 64
October 19, 2008 10:16:57 PM

Did you download Ubuntu desktop 8.04 amd64?

Try to run the built-in media test to verify your CD is good.

Good luck :) 
October 19, 2008 10:31:08 PM

amd64, it makes a difference?
I will have to check
October 19, 2008 10:38:10 PM

The version matters, IA64 will not work

amd64 also known as x86_64 will work

i686 / 32bit will also work

When you first boot from the CD select the media test to verify your CD is good

If your CD has defects or your computer has stability problems you may have strange problems and freezes

Good Luck :) 
October 19, 2008 10:44:08 PM

The CD that I downloaded was amd64. This should work with Intel 64 bit processes?
October 19, 2008 10:53:48 PM

Yes it will work

x86_64 also known as amd64 is sometimes abbreviated as x64 or $distro 64

The Q6600 is 64bit capable and it would probably be a good idea to use a 64bit distribution

x86_64 / amd64 should not be confused with IA64 or Sparc64 or any other 64bit architecture

i386 i486 i586 i686 are all 32bit but each CPU has different features

IA32 is also 32bit and is used to describe 32bit intel CPUs ( x86 )

IA64 is the Itanium and Itanium2 64bit architecture and is not compatible with x86_64 / amd64 and is no longer x86 compatible in hardware

The i386 and i486 did not have MMX MMX2 SSE SSE2 SSE3 SSE4 or various other instructions supported by modern CPUs

Some i586 Pentiums and later CPUs had MMX and some did not and the same is true for MMX2 SSE SSE2 SSE3 SSE4 3dnow etc

i386 binaries should work on all x86 and x86_64 CPUs but the reverse is not true

IA64 binaries will not work on any intel or amd x86 or x86_64 CPUs so do not download any IA64 distributions it is a waste of bandwidth unless you own Itanium or Itanium2 systems

ubuntu's amd64 is the same as x86_64 -- it will run on any x86_64 compatible AMD or intel CPU including the Q6600

AMD developed amd64 / x86_64 and their CPUs run 30-80% faster in 64bit mode

intel later adopted AMD's x86_64

x86_64 / amd64 should run faster than i686 / 32bit on most 64bit CPUs

Besides running faster than 32bit, x86_64 / amd64 allows you to use a lot more RAM and create much bigger files and filesystems

On 64bit P4s x86_64 actually runs 3-8% slower than 32bit, the other advantages of x86_64 still apply though

I think all the core CPUs are 64bit capable

Some Pentium Ms and low end CPUs are not 64bit
October 19, 2008 11:05:17 PM

Sorry for pasting together a book from my previous posts

Please run the media check from the ubuntu CD, also it wouldn't hurt to run memtest for 2 passes and let us know what you get

Good luck :) 
October 19, 2008 11:16:08 PM

I just finished this computer build, and as yet it is not online. Vista is running without problems. I hope to be online sometime next week. I am waiting for my router. I am also thinking of downloading and burning the Ubuntu again.
Thanks for your kind assistance.
October 19, 2008 11:45:43 PM

The integrated media-check that is on the Ubuntu CD should tell you if your disk is good or not

memtest is also on the CD and if you run a couple of passes it will tell you if your RAM and system are working

memtest is a great tool for testing system stability :) 

You don't need to be online to run either of them

:) 
October 20, 2008 12:07:14 AM

I tried to do the CD integrity test. Got the same Initramfs
October 20, 2008 12:13:07 AM

It might work if you pass it "noapic" and "acpi=off"

IIRC you have to hit F6 "other options" and add "noapic acpi=off" to the kernel parameters without the quotes and hit enter

You might also want to try F4 "modes" and select safe graphics mode

Good luck :) 
October 20, 2008 12:13:25 AM

The only thing that works it the memory test. So far no errors. How long do I run it for? What do I do if I find errors?
October 20, 2008 12:19:11 AM

Run it for 2-3 passes, if left alone the memtest will run for ever

IIRC it usually takes about 1hour 20minutes for 2GB of RAM

The ESC key stops it

If you find errors then you RAM is probably bad or it is not stable with the settings you are running it at, in which case you can relax the memory settings and see if it passes

If it consistently fails memtest then you should test it in another system if possible and if it fails there too return it

If you Overclocked set your settings back to defaults

:) 
October 20, 2008 12:22:27 AM

what about the fact that I could not test the integrity of the cd?
October 20, 2008 12:27:34 AM

Tough to tell, that could mean anything, some boards have horrible APIC and ACPI problems

A BIOS update may help you out but it's hard to tell

Good luck :) 
October 20, 2008 12:30:13 AM

What kind of ASUS board do you have?

The model number is usually printed on the board in-between the PCI slots and on the mobo box itself on the barcode label

:) 
October 20, 2008 12:45:06 AM

Try a BIOS update if there is one for your board

You may need to add "irqpoll all_generic_ide" to the kernel boot options using F6 as described earlier

If that doesn't work try "irqpoll all_generic_ide noapic acpi=off"

You may also want to give fedora a try http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora

Fedora sometimes works on boards that ubuntu doesn't work on and vice versa

:) 
October 20, 2008 12:57:59 AM

Also Linux likes to use the SATA controllers on this mobo in AHCI mode, you can set that in the BIOS

You may have some ethernet problems in windows and Linux

A Linux compatible realtek RTL-8169 for $10 should do the trick if you can't get the onboard ethernet working reliably

:) 
October 20, 2008 12:12:27 PM

What is realtek RTL-8169
At present I am not networking.
I again downloaded and burned Ubuntu. Same result.
I was able to get into some help menu by pressing F1. When I scrowled on use Ubuntu from CD nothing happened. I am using USB keyboard. Would changing that matter?

Thanks
October 20, 2008 1:13:47 PM

The RTL-8169 is a popular ethernet chipset used on inexpensive PCI cards and sometimes on motherboards

Your keyboard doesn't matter

I would suggest trying Fedora 9 x86_64 and maybe i686 and see if it works better

GL :) 
October 29, 2008 11:49:37 AM

I downloaded Ubuntu 8.10 and burned a CD. I ran it off the CD without a single problem.
Now I must learn how to use that operating system.
October 30, 2008 8:26:07 AM

Cool :) 

Let us know if you have any questions :) 

GL :) 
October 30, 2008 8:33:08 AM

I must learn how to use it. I do not know how to go online with it.
Will it work with my wireless router?
I am going to install it on my empty hard drive.
October 30, 2008 8:37:44 AM

Some wireless chipsets are horrible but Ubuntu can usually use them, although you may have to plug into a wired router to download the drivers EDIT: the first time that is

If you have a reasonable chipset you should be fine :) 

Most of the time Ubuntu will automatically detect everything

Good luck and keep the questions coming :) 
November 1, 2008 8:55:14 PM

I want to be go online with Ubuntu but I do not have a clue how to get it to recognize my Wifi card.
I really need step by step instructions.
November 1, 2008 9:23:59 PM

Rosewill wireless G PcI Card
November 1, 2008 9:28:49 PM

Which one of these do you have?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...


Sadly some Rosewill cards are difficult to get drivers for, you may have to use NDISwrapper and load the windows driver which is far from ideal :'( 


Please click on Applications => Accessories => Terminal

sudo su -

# type in your user password

/sbin/lspci -vvvvvvvv

Please save or print the output and post it if you can


Good luck :) 
November 2, 2008 1:20:10 PM

Getting Closer!

I now see that Ubuntu has recognized my WiFi card. It shows a few wireless networks, including my own. I do not know where to from here however.

Thanks
November 2, 2008 4:41:39 PM

Success! Somehow I got online with Ubuntu 8.10. I was running it off the CD, and it was sweet. Sometimes we forget little things. My password for the wifi had numerals in it. I did not realize that number pad was not responding. Tomorrow I will install it on the empty hard drive.
November 2, 2008 4:59:26 PM

Nice, good job :) 
November 4, 2008 7:56:18 PM

I have been running Ubuntu 8.10 off the CD for the past couple of days. So far I like what I see. It immediately recognizes many networks, including my own.
Now the next step with the kind help of this forum.
I have two hard drives. One has Vista installed on it. The other is empty. I want to install it on the empty hard drive.
Now here is the problem.
I went into BIOS and checked the BOOT Priority screen. It does not allow for two hard drives to be listed there at the same time. Should I put the empty hard drive into the boot priority screen then install Ubuntu?
If there is a better way to do it, I will listen. I am happy with Vista, and I do not want to adversely affect it.

Thanks
November 4, 2008 8:04:29 PM

Linux comes with the GRUB bootloader which allows you to boot multiple operating systems.

You could install GRUB onto /dev/sdb ( your second SATA HDD ) and change your boot order in the BIOS to boot from your 2nd hard drive.

If you do that, you won't disturb vista at all on the first hard drive.

Make sure you use the empty drive during the partitioning process.

Good luck :) 
November 4, 2008 8:13:58 PM

My question still is, should I put the empty hard drive into the boot priority screen?
November 4, 2008 8:21:56 PM

Yes.

In that case change your BIOS boot order to

0. CD/DVD ( you need to boot from the Ubuntu CD to install )

1. EMPTY HDD ( this should show up as /dev/sda under the ubuntu installer after you change the BIOS boot order, although your BIOS may vary )

2. VISTA HDD or NONE ( this should show up as /dev/sdb and should show your Vista partitions )

3. NONE

4. NONE



When you get to the Ubuntu partitioner make sure you do not make any changes to your vista drive.

Create the partitions on the empty drive and then install GRUB on that same drive and not the vista drive with the NTFS partition.

If you haven't got a backup of your vista system now may be a good time to do it before you do anything else.

Good luck :) 
November 4, 2008 8:46:17 PM

Thanks:
There is really nothing that needs backing up. If necessary, I can always install Vista again.
Once Ubuntu is installed, upon booting up, how do I select which hard drive I want?
November 4, 2008 8:47:34 PM

You will have a GRUB bootloader menu where you can choose your OS.

GL :) 
November 4, 2008 9:08:50 PM

Thanks, I think I had enough for the night. I will play some of the old tv shows on fancast.

thanks again, it was a long journey, but I can now see the light at the end of the tunnel.
!